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Acidburn · 2025-09-22T11:21:34+00:00

Posting in AIBU for traffic. Nigel Farage stated he would deport anyone with existing indefinite leave to remain. We are talking about millions of people. This terrifying. If people live here, work here, have kids and mortgages - where are they supposed to go?

Happyjoe · 22/09/2025 17:32

This would break the deal we had with Brexit, no? I doubt even doable. He's just a hideous attention grabbing liar, it's going to be horrible having him as our PM.

WalkDontWalk · 22/09/2025 17:33

usernamealreadytaken · 22/09/2025 15:51

The poster didn't quote any other numbers, what numbers do you want verified?

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I want to see the figures that show what proportion of the increase in population is down to immigration compared to expected growth.

I want to see figures that show that of that growth, what is the proportion of the 'economically inactive', to cite the phrase. I mean, I'm one of them.

I want to see figures that show that of that proportion of the 'economically inactive', how many are immigrants.

I want to see how that last figure for immigrants stacks up as a proportion of all immigrants.

And I want to see what data supports the use of the word 'most' in the final para and what's the logic for mapping the growth to any specific demographic - implicitly immigrants, as opposed to, well, me not dying as soon as Nye Bevan expected.

Pedallleur · 22/09/2025 17:36

You all know this a headline grabber/dog whistle for the usual suspects. How would he or whoever is in Govt get round the legal process which would take years and £millions and where to? The people's country of origin?

ChicJoker · 22/09/2025 17:37

Have you watched James English podcast with the ukip leader? He makes reform look like a far-left community knitting group.

farage is the least of our worries.

usernamealreadytaken · 22/09/2025 17:40

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 22/09/2025 16:12

Some people don't have a spare couple of grand knocking around. Some people don't want to have to renounce their original citizenship. Some people just haven't been in the UK for long enough to be eligible to apply.

Why should they not be entitled to respect for their family life? Why should their British children not be entitled to stability, knowing that their parents both have the right to be in the UK and won't be kicked out at a moment's notice?

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Maybe they should have saved up before they got married and had DC who were a different nationality?

caringcarer · 22/09/2025 17:41

FLOWER19833 · 22/09/2025 16:21

No kids, just worked continuously and paid off my mortgage at 40, have been to gp maybe 8 times max

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You'd probably pass then. Farage said must be capable of speaking good English, not claimed benefits, a good character so no criminal charges and earning over £60k.

usernamealreadytaken · 22/09/2025 17:41

DuncinToffee · 22/09/2025 16:16

Indeed they can, they can also pay tax.

So, about those numbers?

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If they are claiming benefits they’re not really paying much tax, are they?

NautilusLionfish · 22/09/2025 17:42

TracyBeakerSoYeah · 22/09/2025 12:45

Is that also going to apply to his German wife (albeit they're separated) & his French partner?

Honestly the man is a loon!

You missed a few letters. You meant this man is a colon. A rectum. I mean, the sh** that comes out of him!

Digdongdoo · 22/09/2025 17:43

usernamealreadytaken · 22/09/2025 17:40

Maybe they should have saved up before they got married and had DC who were a different nationality?

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It's not the easiest thing to plan ahead for when the fees jump up massively and randomly. So I'm not sure how anyone would be able to plan ahead for something like what Farage is proposing.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 22/09/2025 17:44

usernamealreadytaken · 22/09/2025 17:40

Maybe they should have saved up before they got married and had DC who were a different nationality?

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Jesus Christ.

EasternStandard · 22/09/2025 17:45

FLOWER19833 · 22/09/2025 16:21

No kids, just worked continuously and paid off my mortgage at 40, have been to gp maybe 8 times max

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You sound like you’d be over the threshold or you could claim citizenship.

MalinandGo · 22/09/2025 17:47

caringcarer · 22/09/2025 17:41

You'd probably pass then. Farage said must be capable of speaking good English, not claimed benefits, a good character so no criminal charges and earning over £60k.

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So not working as a nurse/teacher/social worker/registrar doctor/police constable/researcher/care home manager/civil engineer/labourer/council employee etc then?

Lucky we don't need any of these sorts of people.

Thankfully we'll be keeping lots of fund managers, who sensibly keep their money in offshore trusts. But as we don't want to rely on internationally discredited trickledown theory for our national prosperity and growth, that will be fine.

NautilusLionfish · 22/09/2025 17:47

StinkyWizzleteets · 22/09/2025 15:35

I wonder what would happen if everyone with ILR, everyone with non-British born parents etc went on full strike for a few weeks. Brits need to understand how much we rely on migrant workers. Far fewer doctors and nurses, fewer carers, local shops shut, public transport grinds to a halt with minimum staff. The idea that migrant workers in the UK are somehow a drain on our society ignores the fact they are somehow integrated in our society that we cannot do without them. From highly skilled medical professionals to manual workers and everything in between.

I can’t see the farage followers being so willing to take on the shit jobs, shit shifts and holding together our infrastructure.

good luck UK without those who have iLR etc. Watch how fast your society collapses

I often dream if we immigrants could just leave. Say in 2 weeks, we all leave. Brits would be getting canceled classes, medical appointments, closed restaurants, spas, canelled flights, oh, they would get calls of "come and get your granny in the next 2 hours. Those immigrates you want gone HAVE gone, isnt it just wonderful!". Even Premier League matches would be cancelled 😂

Hereforthecommentz · 22/09/2025 17:50

Fitzcarraldo353 · 22/09/2025 13:10

For those saying it won't be retrospective, it will.

Direct quote from Farage:
We will rescind ILR statuses that have already been granted.

From:
Reform branded ‘threat to democracy’ over Farage plan to remove thousands of migrants with leave to be in UK – politics live https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2025/sep/22/reform-labour-keir-starmer-nigel-farage-immigration-latest-uk-politics-updates?CMP=share_btn_url&page=with%3Ablock-68d0f25c8f0816a4522bf934#block-68d0f25c8f0816a4522bf934

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The guardian the left leaning paper, hardly likely to be unbiased reporting

MalinandGo · 22/09/2025 17:53

Hereforthecommentz · 22/09/2025 17:50

The guardian the left leaning paper, hardly likely to be unbiased reporting

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Oh, that's basic stuff. Do feel free to counter with a source from an impeccably neutral press source though.

KateMiskin · 22/09/2025 17:53

Hereforthecommentz · 22/09/2025 17:50

The guardian the left leaning paper, hardly likely to be unbiased reporting

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Retrospective implementation has also been promised in the Telegraph by Zia Yusuf. That well known leftist rag.

usernamealreadytaken · 22/09/2025 17:54

SuffolkSun · 22/09/2025 16:44

Non UK/Ireland nationals in the UK CANNOT claim benefits unless they have been legally resident for at least five years. Are you seriously suggesting that someone from a shanty town (and yes, I have seen many, in fact I worked in one, despite being "a Brit") is going to go through the hoops needed to secure a job and a visa, come to the UK, work for five years - and then jack the job in to "live on" a significantly lesser amount of money?

If you're really a high earner, why are you at all concerned about the conditions around claiming benefits? And I'm sure you would like to be given special consideration once you lose your high-paying job - but, you know, Brit raso-nationalists don't see any difference between "them" and you, regardless of how much you earn.

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Once an EU (and selected other) immigrant is eligible for ILR, they can claim benefits, including child benefit. You really have no idea about immigrants living in hot bed conditions (like hot desking, but with beds) in HMOs, earning low wages until they are eligible to claim benefits and access other benefits of the UK such as healthcare? It’s been going on for years!

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 22/09/2025 17:54

KateMiskin · 22/09/2025 17:53

Retrospective implementation has also been promised in the Telegraph by Zia Yusuf. That well known leftist rag.

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Is it just me, or is it ironic that Zia Yusuf was born in Scotland, of parents who had immigrated from Sri Lanka?

MalinandGo · 22/09/2025 17:56

Zusuf has also tweeted today to Steve Swinford (political editor of Communist paper The Times) that Reform would look to remove any access to benefits from those with Settled Status, forcing them to leave the UK if they need to access the welfare state. I don't think anyone claiming that Reform wouldn't look to push and push and push on this is making a credible argument.

Trabano · 22/09/2025 17:56

I hope all the Reform cultists are happy. I've had friends in tears about this today as them/ their families could be affected and they're scared. None of them claim benefits btw, all hard working tax payers.

Some are even looking into making plans to leave now.

NautilusLionfish · 22/09/2025 17:57

Dappy777 · 22/09/2025 15:20

Surely the priority should be deporting ‘undesirables’. And I have no shame in using that word. Some people really are undesirable - and that includes plenty of British people! Some of those louts who move to Spain, refuse to learn Spanish, fight and urinate in the street, and fly Union jacks outside their homes, don’t exactly enrich Spanish culture. I wouldn’t blame the Spanish for deporting them.

If I was a member of the Reform government, I would draw up a list for deportation, with those I most wanted to deport at the top. A list in descending order would look something like this:

Illegal immigrants who have committed multiple serious crimes (rape, violence, house burglary, etc).
Illegal immigrants convicted of just one serious crime or a series of petty crimes.
Illegal immigrants who have never been convicted of a crime but have lived on welfare.
Illegal immigrants who have not committed a crime or claimed welfare but who have no skills or training or education and cannot speak English very well.
Legal immigrants who have been convicted of a series of serious crimes (rape, robbery with violence etc).
Legal immigrants who have committed petty crimes.
Legal immigrants who have committed no crimes but who live on welfare

…and so on, and so on.

My priority would be deporting illegal immigrants who have been convicted of serious crimes. The further down the list you go, the more sympathetic I would be. Obviously someone who came here legally and had worked and obeyed the law would be perfectly safe. But an illegal immigrant isn’t a hero. He is a criminal. I liked Australia and wanted to stay there. But I couldn’t. If I had sneaked back in, I’d have expected them to deport me. I wouldn’t scream and shout and accuse the Australians of persecuting me. It is insane that we even need to debate this. The clue is in the word ‘illegal’.

The left have so much influence and control over the U.K. that people seem to think it’s immoral to deport a young man who comes here illegally and then lives by crime or benefit fraud. I have seen people described as ‘far-right’ for wanting a rapist deported!! It’s insane.

Don’t worry though. Even if Reform do take power (which they won’t), the establishment will block and frustrate any efforts to deport people. It just won’t happen. Sleep easy in your beds. People who come here illegally and rape and steal and deal drugs and cheat the welfare system are quite safe.

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@Dappy777
Legal immigrants who have committed petty crimes.
Legal immigrants who have committed no crimes but who live on welfare
So a legal immigrant who steals say a loaf of bread or calpol should get deported? A legal immigrant who lives has a disability after years of paying tax and now lives on welfare should be deported?

KateMiskin · 22/09/2025 17:57

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 22/09/2025 17:54

Is it just me, or is it ironic that Zia Yusuf was born in Scotland, of parents who had immigrated from Sri Lanka?

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Well, Farage's wife is German. The rules don't apply to them.

lifeonmars100 · 22/09/2025 17:59

Unless something dramatic and unforseen happens, the next G E is over three and a half years away (sometime in 2029) so Farage is going to have to keep this sort of rehtoric up for ages and I wonder how on earth he is going to do it. Currently he seems to be making pronouncements every few weeks and always about immigration. He is going to have to keep his potential supporters engaged and enraged for a significant amount of time. I wonder if he intends to come clean about his plans for the NHS (apparently he favours a US style of insurance) and eduction, he has hinted at wanting to end SEND provision. If a week is a long time in politics, a few years are an eternity.

Smilingintherain · 22/09/2025 17:59

Trabano · 22/09/2025 17:56

I hope all the Reform cultists are happy. I've had friends in tears about this today as them/ their families could be affected and they're scared. None of them claim benefits btw, all hard working tax payers.

Some are even looking into making plans to leave now.

But if they are hard working not claiming benefits they don't need to worry.

It is the immigrants claiming benefits that are being targeted. ". ...that Reform would look to remove any access to benefits from those with Settled Status"

SuffolkSun · 22/09/2025 17:59

caringcarer · 22/09/2025 17:08

No if not agree. People who claim pension have paid into the UK system for 35 years? Have the immigrants paid in the same amount in total?

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If the "immigrant" has worked in the UK for 35 years, yes.

If the "immigrant" is a high-earner, their tax and NI contributions will have soon begun to outstrip those of a low-paid, with periods of unemployment, "Brit". And that Brit's wife, who spent 20yrs out of the workforce.

What have your contributions been? Do you have children? Were you always in the higher-rate tax bracket? Did you work continuously when you worked? Yes, no and no? Well then, I've paid far more into the system, and taken out far, far less, so I have more of a claim to state support than you. On your metric.