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Farage promises to deport people with ILR

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Acidburn · 22/09/2025 12:21

Posting in AIBU for traffic.
Nigel Farage stated he would deport anyone with existing indefinite leave to remain. We are talking about millions of people.
This terrifying. If people live here, work here, have kids and mortgages - where are they supposed to go?

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inertia123 · 22/09/2025 14:45

NoMoreCoffeePlease · 22/09/2025 14:22

Disgusting, and terrifying. The country I've lived in for over a decade (having moved all my savings across, high-rate tax payer, kids born here, mortgage) apparently sees me as an 'outsider' who should not be allowed to stay indefinitely or claim benefits.

The UK is my home and I'm highly offended that a politician believes I do not belong here, and from comments in the Daily Mail, there are quite a few people who agree with him -- potentially a majority.

Yes, I could apply for citizenship, which would cost anywhere between* *£1,935 to over £4,100 but frankly, I'm not sure I'd want to become a citizen in a country that clearly doesn't value me or people like me.

These are my thoughts too - being forced to become a citizen of a country that hates you (just for being foreign), and paying a lot of money for it.

Bumblebee72 · 22/09/2025 14:46

BundleBoogie · 22/09/2025 14:43

Exactly. I don’t mind people disagreeing with Reforms actual policies but it is very telling that OP has deliberately misled people on this.

It’s exactly the same behaviour that the hard left constantly accuses the ‘right wing flag wavers’ of.

Completely agree. The number of alarmist threads about Reform, using misinformation to stir up hate. I can't believe anyone thinks that things are going well in this country at the moment.

birling16 · 22/09/2025 14:46

tobee · 22/09/2025 14:45

Do you actually know the mechanism to claim benefits in this country?

Clearly not

BloominNora · 22/09/2025 14:47

BundleBoogie · 22/09/2025 12:57

OP is presenting very selective information here - almost tabloid headline level designed to rile up people.

Looking at proper reports on this and what they actually said, they are not targeting net contributors like yourself, they want to end ‘benefit tourism’ from outside the EU. Which will benefit you as a resident and taxpayer.

Benefit tourism is largely a myth and is virtually impossible to achieve and Farage has clearly said they will end IDL and force those who already have it to re-apply with stricter conditions with higher salary requirements.

He evaded questions from those that asked whether he would force people who have been here for decades to go back to their country of origin and split up families.

IDL is only granted to people who come to the UK through 'legal' immigration routes after person has been in the country between 5 and 10 years, passes the relevant English Language and Life in the UK test AND meet the requirements of their visas which generally come with pretty strict economic contribution tests.

If you don't meet visa criteria you can apply after 10 years based on long residency but still need to meet the other criteria.

Those granted asylum can apply after five years assuming they pass other tests.

The vast majority of migrants are net contributers to the UK because they come over as working age adults so the state did not have to pay for their education. Only after the age of 92 do they, on average, cease to be a net contributers.

Farage has based his policy on figures from the Centre for Policy Studies, who have since withdrawn their paper after acknowledging that they mis-interpreted the OBR data.

Bumblebee72 · 22/09/2025 14:47

inertia123 · 22/09/2025 14:45

These are my thoughts too - being forced to become a citizen of a country that hates you (just for being foreign), and paying a lot of money for it.

No ones forced to. It is an entirely optional.

PandoraSocks · 22/09/2025 14:47

BundleBoogie · 22/09/2025 14:04

It’s not ‘deportation’ - it’s withdrawing benefits from people where their attempt to settle and become contributing members of society has clearly failed.

If people have moved here and can’t find legitimate tax paying employment then we can’t afford to keep them, they need to find somewhere where they CAN find a job.

It will apply to people with ILR who are working and earning less than around £60k.

Of course it is deportation. What else would you call being forced to leave a country you have been legally living and working in for years?

If you think this proposal is all fine and dandy, we are not going to see eye to eye. Personally I hope it is never implemented.

SuffolkSun · 22/09/2025 14:47

caringcarer · 22/09/2025 14:42

If we have less pull factors, less will want to come. If immigrants can't claim benefits that would massively reduce the welfare budget we all know is unsustainable. Labour are supposedly going to increase ILR from 5 years qualifying to 10 years. Reform are saying 7 years but higher earnings level to ensure all dependents don't become net takers. If they are net contributors no problem.

Around 48% of the "unsustainable" welfare budget is spent on pensions, and this figure will continue to rise to well over 50% in the next few years.

By how much do you think we should cut the state pension - 10%? 20? More? And which of your family members are you going to make sure goes into social care, yo replace the migrant workers who currently do it?

birling16 · 22/09/2025 14:47

Bumblebee72 · 22/09/2025 14:46

Completely agree. The number of alarmist threads about Reform, using misinformation to stir up hate. I can't believe anyone thinks that things are going well in this country at the moment.

Hard Left my arse.

Flag wavers are racists.

usernamealreadytaken · 22/09/2025 14:47

DuncinToffee · 22/09/2025 14:12

What's the term when someone is forced to leave?

If they are eligible to stay, they can apply to. Otherwise, fulfilling the terms of their visa is leaving when it expires, or becoming an illegal immigrant. The only time they will be “forced to leave”, is when they are an illegal immigrant.

FlyMeSomewhere · 22/09/2025 14:47

Acidburn · 22/09/2025 12:37

The next move would be to deport British born people whose parents were not British born. Insane.

I can actually believe that you know! Scary as it is!

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 22/09/2025 14:48

ladybirdsanchez · 22/09/2025 12:31

I wouldn't worry too much - it's just Farage rabble-rousing and he'd be tied up in legal red-tape for ages if he tried to do this.

Just look over the other side of the Atlantic and see what Trump has managed to do in a very short time. They were supposed to have checks and balances, too. And we don’t even have a written Constitution! (Maybe that makes it better?)

Falseknock · 22/09/2025 14:48

caringcarer · 22/09/2025 14:42

If we have less pull factors, less will want to come. If immigrants can't claim benefits that would massively reduce the welfare budget we all know is unsustainable. Labour are supposedly going to increase ILR from 5 years qualifying to 10 years. Reform are saying 7 years but higher earnings level to ensure all dependents don't become net takers. If they are net contributors no problem.

This is a typical stereotypical post. Immigrants come here to find there fortune and buy property. They are not sitting around whining over not being able to buy a house. When immigrants arrive they plan and save. They are contributing more to this country than it's own citizens. They open business and study to get good jobs.

Carandache18 · 22/09/2025 14:48

It's sort of funny to mock Farage, and say 'Oh look a flying pig' but I think it's also dangerous. Brexit happened. Trump got a second term. I remember how we laughed at the thought of either of those things being possible.
Farage should be taken seriously. He's no joke. He's an awful racist.

SleeplessInWherever · 22/09/2025 14:49

Flyingintotheunknown · 22/09/2025 14:45

It must have only changed in the last 12 months then as my hubby applied for citizenship last year due to his ILR being about to expire and renewing it would have cost more than applying for citizenship

It has. The last expiries were Nov/Dec 2024, and the Evisa roll out was April 2024 - April 2025.

Our government checks have really changed noticeably in the last 6 months, and then April 2025 onwards they were all on Evisa.

I work in recruitment for a living and overseas right to work makes up a huge part of that. There’s definitely been a recent change that means ILR is now more secure. For now.

MsJinks · 22/09/2025 14:49

Bumblebee72 · 22/09/2025 14:46

Completely agree. The number of alarmist threads about Reform, using misinformation to stir up hate. I can't believe anyone thinks that things are going well in this country at the moment.

When you need the laugh emoji back …

inertia123 · 22/09/2025 14:50

Bumblebee72 · 22/09/2025 14:47

No ones forced to. It is an entirely optional.

Really? And If I don't, I run the risk of being separated from my husband and children.

What's most chilling of all is seeing all the fear and hatred of foreigners that a lot of people must have harboured all along bubble up and find its voice.

No man is an island. You may think differently when you see just how it will be to manage without all the foreign labour in this country.

usernamealreadytaken · 22/09/2025 14:50

DuncinToffee · 22/09/2025 14:17

You would be alright with other countries sending back Britsh people such as those retired in say Spain?

Pretty sure retirees in Spain already have to meet a minimum income threshold and have health insurance, otherwise their visa becomes invalid and they'll be required to leave.

Doingtheboxerbeat · 22/09/2025 14:50

All these people saying it won't/can't happen are missing the point - that just the idea of people celebrating it, voting for it, is stressful for those on the recieving end.
I hate this country sometimes 🥺.

spoonbillstretford · 22/09/2025 14:50

birling16 · 22/09/2025 14:47

Hard Left my arse.

Flag wavers are racists.

It's not misinformation, it was a policy announcement from Reform today.

BundleBoogie · 22/09/2025 14:50

MalinandGo · 22/09/2025 14:07

It's apparently withdrawing visas from people earning under a threshold that is being reported at twice the average wage. That will include a huge number of people who are vital for supporting our country, including our increasingly ageing and economically inactive population, with the work they do.

I haven’t seen a wage threshold reported but obviously there are separate visas for required low wage workers that is tailored to the roles we actually need.

I am amazed at the number of people who have an issue with parties trying to stop ‘benefit tourists’ moving here and not getting a job to contribute to society. It’s not like we’ve got lots of cash to spare atm - Rachel Reeves’ ‘black holes’ are getting numerous.

EasternStandard · 22/09/2025 14:51

PandoraSocks · 22/09/2025 14:47

It will apply to people with ILR who are working and earning less than around £60k.

Of course it is deportation. What else would you call being forced to leave a country you have been legally living and working in for years?

If you think this proposal is all fine and dandy, we are not going to see eye to eye. Personally I hope it is never implemented.

It’s not any more than a working visa expiring means a law abiding person will leave. I’ve left when a visa expired, it wasn’t deportation.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 22/09/2025 14:51

usernamealreadytaken · 22/09/2025 14:47

If they are eligible to stay, they can apply to. Otherwise, fulfilling the terms of their visa is leaving when it expires, or becoming an illegal immigrant. The only time they will be “forced to leave”, is when they are an illegal immigrant.

Do you think it is acceptable that the spouse of a British citizen or parent of minor British children should be at risk of being found "ineligible" to remain in the UK? Because the consequence of that is that either a family is forcibly broken up or British citizens are also effectively forced to leave their own country.

SleeplessInWherever · 22/09/2025 14:52

EasternStandard · 22/09/2025 14:51

It’s not any more than a working visa expiring means a law abiding person will leave. I’ve left when a visa expired, it wasn’t deportation.

But if you were on a visa with no expiry, and then it was forcibly changed to one that can and did expire - you’d feel at least a bit put out right?

DuncinToffee · 22/09/2025 14:52

usernamealreadytaken · 22/09/2025 14:47

If they are eligible to stay, they can apply to. Otherwise, fulfilling the terms of their visa is leaving when it expires, or becoming an illegal immigrant. The only time they will be “forced to leave”, is when they are an illegal immigrant.

Becoming an illegal immigrant because the government revokes your legal status, removes your IRL

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 22/09/2025 14:52

EasternStandard · 22/09/2025 14:51

It’s not any more than a working visa expiring means a law abiding person will leave. I’ve left when a visa expired, it wasn’t deportation.

And were your spouse and children citizens of and living in the country you left when your visa expired?

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