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Charlie Kirks wife forgives the killer

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strangerandstranger · 21/09/2025 23:22

To people who said her husband was hateful and what they preached was hateful, she just forgave the killer, as God would. Powerful speech.

The messed up young man who thought shooting man he didn't like was the answer, will go to prison and no longer be with his boyfriend. Erika Kirk no longer has her husband and her children have list their father.

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KnittyNell · 22/09/2025 00:18

strangerandstranger · 22/09/2025 00:10

His first comment was he doesn't agree with her forgiving the killer. Yes, he's rambling on.

I thought his speech was heartfelt and very honest.

keepthecake · 22/09/2025 00:18

Interesting that the clip on the BBC website is very bland. Shame that they don’t cover this amazing message if they’re going to cover her speech at all.

strangerandstranger · 22/09/2025 00:19

LancashireButterPie · 22/09/2025 00:14

Hmm, Maybe her marketing team advised her that her first speech, declaring retribution, wasn't such a great look.
This is a big step in the right direction.

I hope she now campaigns for an end to guns, the acceptance of those with alternative lifestyles (love they neighbour as thyself) and an end to the death penalty (Let he who is without sin cast the first stone).

Or just maybe she believes that her God wants her to forgive.

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strangerandstranger · 22/09/2025 00:21

KnittyNell · 22/09/2025 00:18

I thought his speech was heartfelt and very honest.

So did I. I suspect many haven't seen it and it's automatic attack. I dont think I would be able to forgive someone who killed someone I loved. It sounded heartfelt.

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LaurieFairyCake · 22/09/2025 00:22

She doesn’t forgive him, she SAYS she forgives him - it’s not the same.

she’s gone on record saying that she trusts the government to sentence him. She said she didn’t want to directly call for the death penalty in case she got to heaven and Jesus wouldn’t let her in saying:

”an eye for an eye, huh”

she said she wanted to be with Charlie so wouldn’t take the risk of Jesus not letting her be with him.

she has NO IDEA what heaven is like, no idea what Christian forgiveness is like. The idea she would barter with God is hideous, the idea she thinks God would prevent her being with her husband so she had to manipulate God in some way 🤷‍♀️

it’s all insanity, none of this is how God or forgiveness works

she’s not a Christian, at least not in any way I understand it.

Today is the international day of peace, let’s hope for some.

Fullfatandfortyplus · 22/09/2025 00:23

God bless Erika her children and Charlie’s family. The whole memorial was very moving but Erika was incredible.

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strangerandstranger · 22/09/2025 00:23

strangerandstranger · 22/09/2025 00:21

So did I. I suspect many haven't seen it and it's automatic attack. I dont think I would be able to forgive someone who killed someone I loved. It sounded heartfelt.

I misread your comment. I thought you felt she was heartfelt. I think Trump believes in the death penalty so he believes what he said. They have different views, one forgives and tge other doesn't, which hardly offers proof of being told what to day by Trump et al.

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MoFadaCromulent · 22/09/2025 00:24

strangerandstranger · 22/09/2025 00:21

So did I. I suspect many haven't seen it and it's automatic attack. I dont think I would be able to forgive someone who killed someone I loved. It sounded heartfelt.

I also don't think I'd be dancing a jig at a ball game after someone I "loved" had been killed either or start bragging about the remodeling job i had commissioned when someone asked how I was holding up either so it's very hard to judge with Trump

strangerandstranger · 22/09/2025 00:25

Thanks for the comments. Bed calls.

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Irisheyes2 · 22/09/2025 00:26

The far right have had my kid doing stuff for them and I am terrified for his life because he doesn't want to be involved anymore and he's been threatened he's going on about God all the time and he was never religious, please please keep your kids away from Charlie kirks stuff and the far right and Farage, they are getting kids like mine hurt we can't even speak to a blackperson anymore it's gone crazy

aold · 22/09/2025 00:29

awkwardasfuck · 21/09/2025 23:28

He WAS hateful. Doesn't make it right that he was murdered, but he was genuinely an extremist with vile views.

Both can be true at the same time. Hope that helps.

tik tok is over there, off you go

Irisheyes2 · 22/09/2025 00:30

LaurieFairyCake · 22/09/2025 00:22

She doesn’t forgive him, she SAYS she forgives him - it’s not the same.

she’s gone on record saying that she trusts the government to sentence him. She said she didn’t want to directly call for the death penalty in case she got to heaven and Jesus wouldn’t let her in saying:

”an eye for an eye, huh”

she said she wanted to be with Charlie so wouldn’t take the risk of Jesus not letting her be with him.

she has NO IDEA what heaven is like, no idea what Christian forgiveness is like. The idea she would barter with God is hideous, the idea she thinks God would prevent her being with her husband so she had to manipulate God in some way 🤷‍♀️

it’s all insanity, none of this is how God or forgiveness works

she’s not a Christian, at least not in any way I understand it.

Today is the international day of peace, let’s hope for some.

They are stark raving mad. They are getting people killed in the UK we aren't allowed proper news they keep putting the same news on everywhere except the right wing papers keep your kids away from these people they are threatening kids this is not Godly they spare radicalising them

BlushingBrightly · 22/09/2025 00:30

MrsSkylerWhite · 21/09/2025 23:57

Sure.
Or a lady with an agenda.

What agenda?

she is just being puppeted by Trump's rancid regime. She doesn't get to choose what she says any more than she did when Kirk was alive

Trump's not really a forgive the sinner sort of guy. That's not going to be a line he's scripted.

aold · 22/09/2025 00:30

Irisheyes2 · 22/09/2025 00:26

The far right have had my kid doing stuff for them and I am terrified for his life because he doesn't want to be involved anymore and he's been threatened he's going on about God all the time and he was never religious, please please keep your kids away from Charlie kirks stuff and the far right and Farage, they are getting kids like mine hurt we can't even speak to a blackperson anymore it's gone crazy

this is exactly the kind of reactionary hard left rhetoric which resulted in Charlie’s death

BlushingBrightly · 22/09/2025 00:32

Irisheyes2 · 22/09/2025 00:30

They are stark raving mad. They are getting people killed in the UK we aren't allowed proper news they keep putting the same news on everywhere except the right wing papers keep your kids away from these people they are threatening kids this is not Godly they spare radicalising them

They? Who are you talking about?

Irisheyes2 · 22/09/2025 00:33

BlushingBrightly · 22/09/2025 00:30

What agenda?

she is just being puppeted by Trump's rancid regime. She doesn't get to choose what she says any more than she did when Kirk was alive

Trump's not really a forgive the sinner sort of guy. That's not going to be a line he's scripted.

They are stark raving mad! Get your kids off the internet!!!!! Trump is absolutely radicalised. He's barking mad!!!!! theyvegot Tommy robinsons lot beating people up and killing themin the UK, but news wontreport keep your kids away from these people they will ruin their lives. They are hurting people.

MistressoftheDarkSide · 22/09/2025 00:33

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How many wanted babies have been miscarried, as is presumably "God's will" ?

How many children have been starved and abused, sometimes by those who officially represent "God's will"?

How many people have died because of the "God given" right to bear arms?

How many women have had to die because of "God's will" denying them medical treatment while pregnant because even an unviable foetus is deemed more important than it's host?

BreakingBroken · 22/09/2025 00:33

maybe she forgives the killer because being married to him was difficult?? lets just see how long it takes before she remarries.

Kurokurosuke · 22/09/2025 00:33

…publicly states that she forgives him.

i feel so sorry for her. She probably has to say she forgives him, or the gun-lobby would be on to her.

Who knows what she thinks privately no one knows. But given his stance on guns, and the money that he must have made from touting those views, I am sure she was put in a position of having to state this.

she is recently bereaved. And has children she has to help through this. She hasn’t had time to know how she feels about the killer yet.

The gun lobby is powerful. More powerful than God!

EmeraldShamrock000 · 22/09/2025 00:35

Irisheyes2 · 22/09/2025 00:26

The far right have had my kid doing stuff for them and I am terrified for his life because he doesn't want to be involved anymore and he's been threatened he's going on about God all the time and he was never religious, please please keep your kids away from Charlie kirks stuff and the far right and Farage, they are getting kids like mine hurt we can't even speak to a blackperson anymore it's gone crazy

What? How are you helping your DC? Mine would be banned from the internet.
Who is he being threatened by? What is he expected to do? Have you called the police?
Sounds like he is having a mental health breakdown.

MissFancyDay · 22/09/2025 00:35

I've just watched some clips of the memorial, I've never seen anything like it. I had a feeling that they were going to try and turn him into some sort of holy figure.

It feels like all sense of proportion has gone. I've never been so glad to live in the U.K.

aold · 22/09/2025 00:35

BreakingBroken · 22/09/2025 00:33

maybe she forgives the killer because being married to him was difficult?? lets just see how long it takes before she remarries.

wow. give your head a wobble.

BeHappySloth · 22/09/2025 00:38

I watched her speech. I thought she was remarkably composed and dignified. I don't share her politics or religious views at all, but I do feel very sorry for her as a young woman who has lost her husband and the father of her young children in an incredibly violent and traumatic way.

As for her husband, I found some of his views abhorrent, but he did not deserve to die for them.

MsAmerica · 22/09/2025 00:39

strangerandstranger · 22/09/2025 00:13

Aibu is a range if topics and views and discussion points. You are free to comment or pass by as you wish.

To me her speech and forgiveness was noteworthy, to others it it's not.

Oh, I'm sure it was "noteworthy," and I'm sure it was written by professionals.

I'm just saying that it may not be as meaningful or angelically sincere as their fans imagine.