Charlie Kirks wife forgives the killer

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To people who said her husband was hateful and what they preached was hateful, she just forgave the killer, as God would. Powerful speech.

The messed up young man who thought shooting man he didn't like was the answer, will go to prison and no longer be with his boyfriend. Erika Kirk no longer has her husband and her children have list their father.

Why are you posting this? What are you hoping to achieve?

So? Doesn't change what he was or the appalling views he held.

I forgive Charlie for this hateful views and I forgive his wife for happily profiting off those hateful views

I'm posting how a woman who has had her husband killed just gave an emotional speech and forgave the killer. You might not think that is much, its a massive thing to do, many couldn't do that.

Amazing lady.

Quite. On that note, why SKY appear to be devoting so much coverage to this is beyond me.

Anyone who thinks this whole thing isn’t an utter pageant is absolutely naive.

No no no, don't be disingenuous. You started yoir original post with "To people who said her husband was hateful and what they preached was hateful"

So what is it you're trying to say. Because he was hateful. That does not change.

And for what it's worth, she is just being puppeted by Trump's rancid regime. She doesn't get to choose what she says any more than she did when Kirk was alive.

Awful politicised spectacle.

A remarkable memorial.

👏 Fair play to her, she's changed from her initial (grieving) anger.
I'm an atheist and I think some of Kirk's views were abhorrent, but she's done this in the name of her faith, and so 👏👏 credit where it's due.

I wouldn't class a woman who supported a man that said he would force his 10 year old daughter to carry her rapists baby to term if she was raped as an "amazing woman".

Her forgiveness is purely lip service.

Well she's preaching forgiveness.

I've no idea how's she coping, day to day, I imagine, I feel sympathy for a woman who has had her husband and the father of her children murdered.

If it makes you feel better Trump doesn't agree with her forgiving the killer. Its her words. Her choice. Some/many Christians do believe in forgiveness.

Have you got a link to her speech OP? The above link is a long live feed.

Sorry, I watched it on Sky News.

If you have access to Sky News, I imagine they will run it again.

That's what I felt. Still people will hate her, regardless. That's on them.

She is - and her late husband was - a conservative Christian influencer. A key tenet of Christianity is forgiving those who sin against us. It’s hardly surprising that she’s professing one of the key tenets of her faith.

Also, your choice of language - ‘many would struggle to do that’ - suggests that this is something that should be aimed for. But if you’re not a Christian, there’s no theological/ideological compulsion for you to forgive someone who has committed terrible crimes against you, so if it’s not going to bring you any peace, why would it be something to aim for?

If it makes you feel better Trump doesn't agree with her forgiving the killer. Its her words. Her choice. Some/many Christians do believe in forgiveness.

His murder has really brought home to me that so many seem to accept murder as acceptable/understandable.
I read an article which explained his murder in terms of the rise of fascism and it was Kirk who was described as the fascist not the murderer.We're living in very strange times.

Exactly what I said 'many would struggle to do that' (forgiveness for the killer). Many or maybe even most people would struggle to forgive someone who killed their spouse.

Sure.
Or a lady with an agenda.

This exactly. People didn't like his words so they appear to think, it's ok to kill him.

Surely the point the poster was making is that anything his wife does, good, bad or indifferent, does not posthumously alter what her husband did.

So the premise of "for those of you who said x about him, his wife doing Y proves you wrong" is fundamentally flawed as the two are not linked.

Someone could logically say he was hateful and preached hate and be correct from a logical consistency POV and his wife could be the ultimate example of b forgiveness. One does not preclude the other.

So the issue is with your setup of "her forgiveness proves you wrong" rather than people arguing that she can't be forgiving

The murderer has made a wife and 2 children suffer. He has also made Charlie Kirk more famous that he was before.

The murderer will hopefully not be given the death sentence but perhaps one day realise that killing is not the answer.