Charlie Kirks wife forgives the killer

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To people who said her husband was hateful and what they preached was hateful, she just forgave the killer, as God would. Powerful speech.

The messed up young man who thought shooting man he didn't like was the answer, will go to prison and no longer be with his boyfriend. Erika Kirk no longer has her husband and her children have list their father.

Don’t think I have seen anyone think it was right he was murdered. But him being murdered doesn’t change the fact he had some pretty awful views.

Once again, this does not seem in any way to be suitable for the AIBU forum.

But I will just add that whatever she is saying now, in her grand-standing show, with her comparing herself to God, as you indicate - I can also tell you that in her first speech, last week, the words and tone were quite threatening - not toward the shooter, but toward all Democrats/Liberals.

People were saying that his movement was hateful, they were all hateful. She has shown she wasn't. I have seen her husband's speeches, not just read the clips, people have shared of bits of them. I don't agree with what he says but I cannot see how that deserves being killed or how cheering at his killing makes anything better.

She has shown she isn't hateful. That was my point, she's shown forgiveness in the face of sheer horror.

How many videos of Charlie's did you ever watch? The only way someone could equate what Charlie said as hateful is if they simply didn't agree with what he said. Such people confuse telling the truth with hate, which is actually the opposite of what it is: telling the truth when people will hate you for it is actually love. That's what CK sacrificed himself for, so that people like you who would hate him could hear the truth.

Face the truth.

Pity that Trump is hijacking all the love and light to make one of his rambling and frankly hate filled speeches.

Define this "truth" of which you speak.

No need to be offensive but hey you do you.

You've also missed my point but there you go, no name calling from me.

My main point is: wow, after losing her husband to a very public killing, she forgives the killer. That's all. Her speech was from the heart. You may not listen, thats up to you. Many will comment, as I suspect you have, without actually listening to her.

His first comment was he doesn't agree with her forgiving the killer. Yes, he's rambling on.

It's so true. And all of those who will wrongly claim he was a fascist seem to not know that Charlie called for the opposite of fascism, he was all about open dialogue and debate.

But you didn't frame it as his movement, it we are all, or all Republicans are hateful.

You said for people who said he was hateful. It's a faulty premise. Nothing his wife does after his death can make him more or less hateful.

In the same way I can't say that his wife's turning point USA branded message last week after his death proves that something he said 2 years ago is now objectively hateful and disingenuous and that it proves it was all a facade to profit off fundamentist Christian fear.

So you can't set up a combative "debate me" premise of "how stupid do you all feel now for saying this" and then retreat to the safety of "all I'm saying is people called her hateful and look at her forgiveness" when posters engage with the premise you elected to put forward.

@Calmomiletea forcing a woman to carry and birth the product of rape is, in my opinion, hateful. To expect that of your own daughter defies belief but he was very clear that is how he felt.

Face the truth (whatever that means)

Aibu is a range if topics and views and discussion points. You are free to comment or pass by as you wish.

To me her speech and forgiveness was noteworthy, to others it it's not.

So, how many videos of Charlie's have you actually watched? I'll repeat my question to each and every one who claims he was hateful.

If you want to know what truth is read the Bible.

Hmm, Maybe her marketing team advised her that her first speech, declaring retribution, wasn't such a great look.
This is a big step in the right direction.

I hope she now campaigns for an end to guns, the acceptance of those with alternative lifestyles (love they neighbour as thyself) and an end to the death penalty (Let he who is without sin cast the first stone).

I found a link
m.youtube.com/watch?v=9OUj_Hzgnjs

What an amazing woman Erika is.

So there is rank hypocrisy in the "movement" plain to see. If they are all on the side of "Christianity" as the foundation of US values, should he not be following her lead and also preaching forgiveness? Shows a typical lack of respect towards such an important and revered woman, don't you think?

Praying for her and Charlie's family. Utterly heartbreaking

OT or NT? Which cherries shall we pick?

OK, I apologise for not framing it correctly. Will that help? I did hear posters call the whole organisation hateful, she is part of that organisation and has shown forgiveness. I've never called anyone stupid or been rude to anyone.

Oh bore off with the bible thumping.

What planet are you on?

I agree it is.

Killing people who share different views isn't the answer.

You're presuming that what he said was truth.

You're setting up a false premise to equate those who disagree with him as disagreeing with the truth.

He was hateful, I watched many of his videos, he perpetuated many falsehoods.

None of that justifies his murder or diminishes the wrong the killer perpetrated