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Starmer’s support for Palestine

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Steph888 · 21/09/2025 15:39

Am I alone in seeing this as one of the darkest days in UK history?

Never before did I think I’d end up living under a government who reward terrorism.

Starmer and Labour are grotesque. History will not be kind to them. They have now empowered all terrorists and their supporters.

We deserve such better than this reprehensible government. They disgust me.

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aurynne · 24/09/2025 01:34

Steph888 · 21/09/2025 16:05

They literally voted in Hamas to govern them. The parallels with the IRA are ridiculously disingenuous.

Erm... Sinn Féin anyone?

spoonbillstretford · 24/09/2025 01:35

The government have joined with other countries across the UN in acknowledging Palestine as a country. How could our government do otherwise? The only way forward has always been a two state solution. It goes way back before the terrorism of last year.

beready2025 · 24/09/2025 01:43

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SammyScrounge · 24/09/2025 02:27

They didn't even make the return of the hostages part of an agreement. I think of, in particular, the skeletal young man kept underground in a hole in which he has to dig his own grave. I'm glad in a way that I don't know how the others are kept - too much sheer cruelty to contemplate.
I expect Iran and Hezbollah are.happy.though. They know now that terrorism works. Commit atrocities and you get what you want.

Timeforabitofpeace · 24/09/2025 03:58

TrishM80 · 24/09/2025 01:23

Israel is the most efficient, prolific childkilling machine on the planet, why should THEY continuously be rewarded?

Yes, and if anyone deserves the boot licking analogy raised earlier, it’s them.

peasporrige · 24/09/2025 08:40

YourAmplePlumPoster · 21/09/2025 17:16

I'll tell you why so you can brush up on your history. Egypt has a problem with the Muslim Brotherhood which has direct links to Hamas. Jordan expelled Ararat as he and his Palestinian brethren tried to overthrow the King when they were guests in his country. They then went to Lebanon and started a civil war against Christians. That's why nobody wants them.

You got that right !

The largest forced displacement of Palestinians from an Arab state took place in 1991 when Kuwait expelled most of its Palestinian residents in retaliation for the Palestine Liberation Organization’s (PLO) endorsement of Iraq’s brutal occupation of the emirate (August 1990-February 1991). The PLO was the creation of Yasser Arafat.and regarded by Kuwait as a "fifth columnist".

It seems they have a habit of "biting the hand that feeds them".

YourAmplePlumPoster · 24/09/2025 10:37

peasporrige · 24/09/2025 08:40

You got that right !

The largest forced displacement of Palestinians from an Arab state took place in 1991 when Kuwait expelled most of its Palestinian residents in retaliation for the Palestine Liberation Organization’s (PLO) endorsement of Iraq’s brutal occupation of the emirate (August 1990-February 1991). The PLO was the creation of Yasser Arafat.and regarded by Kuwait as a "fifth columnist".

It seems they have a habit of "biting the hand that feeds them".

Yes I mentioned that in another post. This is why Arab leaders will proclaim solidarity but in reality shut the door on them as they're doing now. Of course, you will never read about that in The Guardian or BBC. Arafat wanted a Palestinian State but Hamas rejected it.

YourAmplePlumPoster · 24/09/2025 10:39

I recommend the book Son of Hamas which gives a really good background to the history and conflict.

Ellen2shoes · 24/09/2025 18:17

I’d recommend The Hundred Years’ War on Palestine - a history of settler colonial conquest and resistance 1917-2017 for learning about historical context.

Mihrimah · 01/10/2025 11:37

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Starmer’s support for Palestine
Mihrimah · 01/10/2025 11:43

Free Palestine

Starmer’s support for Palestine
PollyPaintsFlowers · 01/10/2025 11:44

Ellen2shoes · 24/09/2025 18:17

I’d recommend The Hundred Years’ War on Palestine - a history of settler colonial conquest and resistance 1917-2017 for learning about historical context.

Does it cover how Arabs colonised the Middle East for hundreds of years prior to that? Raping, murdering and enslaving as they went...

PollyPaintsFlowers · 01/10/2025 11:51

Mihrimah · 01/10/2025 11:43

Free Palestine

You're right, it certainly didn't start on October 7th. Arabs have been killing Jews in that area for centuries

  • 1517 Hebron Attacks: Turkish troops led by Murad Bey, the deputy of the Sultan from Jerusalem, attacked the Jewish community in Hebron. The assault involved beatings, rape, killings, and the looting of homes and businesses. Survivors fled to Beirut, and Jews did not return until 1533, possibly due to the community's stable financial position attracting the attackers or the broader context of Mamluk uprisings against Ottoman rule.
  • 1834 Looting of Safed: During the Peasants' Revolt in Palestine, a month-long attack on the Jewish community of Safed began on June 15, 1834, the day after the Jewish holiday of Shavuot, and lasted for 33 days. The violence, carried out by Druze and Muslim forces during a power vacuum while Ibrahim Pasha fought the revolt in Jerusalem, included large-scale looting, killings, rapes, destruction of homes and synagogues, and desecration of Torah scrolls. Many Jews were severely wounded.
  • 1864 Safed Pogrom: Another major attack on Safed occurred in 1864, beginning on June 15 (7 Sivan), the day after Shavuot, and lasting 33 days. This event, described as a spontaneous attack on a defenseless population during the armed uprising against Ibrahim Pasha, involved widespread looting, killing, and rape of Jews, along with the destruction of homes and synagogues. Many Torah scrolls were desecrated, and numerous Jews were left wounded.
  • 1828 Baghdad Pogrom: A massacre of Jews in Baghdad took place in 1828, reflecting the vulnerability of Jewish communities during periods of political unrest within the empire.
  • 1864 Marrakesh and Fez Massacres: Around 500 Jews were killed in Marrakesh and Fez, Morocco, in 1864, highlighting the violence faced by Jewish communities in North Africa under Ottoman influence.
  • 1869 Tunis and Jerba Massacres: In 1869, a mob in Tunis killed 18 Jews, looted Jewish homes and stores, and burned synagogues on Jerba Island. These events were part of a broader pattern of violence against Jews in Ottoman Tunisia.
  • 1875 Demnat Massacre: In 1875, 20 Jews were killed by a mob in Demnat, Morocco, with further attacks on Jews in the streets in broad daylight, indicating ongoing persecution in North Africa.
  • 1890 Damascus Pogrom: A pogrom in Damascus in 1890 resulted in the deaths of Jews, continuing a long history of violence in the region.
  • 1901–1907 Cairo Massacres: A series of attacks on Jews in Cairo occurred between 1901 and 1907, reflecting persistent anti-Jewish violence in Egypt under Ottoman rule.
  • 1917 Baghdadi Jewish Inquisition: The Ottoman Empire conducted a Jewish inquisition in Baghdad, targeting the Jewish community and reflecting the increasing persecution of Jews in the empire’s final decades.
  • 1945 Tripolitania Pogrom: A pogrom in Tripolitania, Libya, in 1945, was one of the last major attacks on Jews in the Ottoman sphere, occurring after the empire's dissolution but within the region's historical context.
PollyPaintsFlowers · 01/10/2025 11:55

And here's a more comprehensive list of the ethnic cleansing and systemic murders including beheading of Jews by Muslims in the Middle East

▪ 622–627: ethnic cleansing of Jews from Mecca and Medina, (Jewish boys were publicly inspected for pubic hair and executed if they had any)
▪ 624: after the victory of Badr, beginning of the elimination of the Jews
▪ 625: expulsion of the Jewish clan of Al Nadir
▪ 626: massacre of the Beni Khazradj Jews and division of families and loot
▪ 626? : expedition against the Jews beni Qoraizha, insulted by Mohammed: “O you, monkeys and pigs…”
▪ 626? : massacre of 700 Beni Qoraïzha Jews, bound for three days, then slaughtered above a ditch, with the young boys
▪ 626: murder of the Jew Kab, leader of the Beni Nadhir and satirist poet, and of his wife who had made fun of Mohammed
▪ 626: expedition against the Jews of Kaihbar
▪ 626: murder on the orders of Muhammad of the Jew Sallam abu Rafi
▪ 626: Mohammed had the palm trees of the Jewish oasis Beni Nadhir cut down
▪ 627: elimination of the Jewish Qurayza clan in Medina
▪ 627: massacre of the Jews of Medina; sharing of families and property
▪ 628? : attack on the Jews of Khaibar, and torture of prisoners
▪ 628? : taking of the Jewish oasis of Fadak as Mohammed’s personal property
▪ 628: submission of the Jews of Wadil Qora
▪ 628: Mohammed to the Jews beni Qainoqa: “if you do not embrace Islam, I declare war on
you”
▪ 629: first massacres in Alexandria, Egypt
▪ 622–634: extermination of the 14 Arab Jewish tribes
▪ 630: submission of the Jews and Christians of Makna, Eilat, Jerba
▪ 638: expulsion of the Jews from Jerusalem
▪ 640: expulsion of Jews from Hedjez
▪ 643: expulsion of the Jews from Khaibar by Omar
▪ 822–861: the Islamic empire adopts a law requiring Jews to wear yellow stars (a bit like
Nazi Germany), caliph al-Mutawakkil
▪ 940: beheading of the Jewish exilarch of Baghdad for having sullied the name of Mohammed
▪ 945: assassination by a crowd of fanatics of the last Jewish exilarch of Baghdad
▪ 948: closure of the Jewish theological school of Baghdad “Sora”
▪ 1004: Jews and Christians must wear a black turban and sash in Egypt
▪ 1009: Jews and Christians in Egypt must wear a cross or bells in the baths
▪ 1009: destruction of the Holy Sepulcher of Jerusalem by the Fatimids
▪ 1010–1013: start of massacre of hundreds of Jews around Cordoba
▪ 1016: Jews are persecuted and driven out of Kairouan
▪ 1010: persecution of Christians, Jews and Sunnis by the Fatimid caliph Al Hakim
▪ 1032: 5 to 6,000 Jews killed in a riot in Fez and expulsion of survivors
▪ 1040: beheading of the Jewish theologian Gaon Chizkiya, head of a Talmudic school
▪ 1106: Ali Ibn Yousef Ibn Tashifin of Marrakech decrees the death penalty for any local Jew, including his Jewish doctor, and his military general.
▪ 1148: the Almohads of Morocco give Jews the choice of converting to Islam or being expelled
▪ 1057: capture and pillage of Kairouan by the Hilalian tribes; expulsion of Jews and certain Muslims
▪ 1066: Massacre of thousands of Jews in Granada in Muslim-occupied Spain
▪ 1073: start of persecution against Jews and Christians by the Turks in Jerusalem
▪ 1127: in Morocco, after the failure of the prophetic movement of the Jewish messiah Moshe Dhery, wave of persecutions and forced conversions
▪ 1142: start of persecution against the Jews by the Almohads; massacre in Tlemcen, Bougie, Oran
▪ 1145: the Jews of Tunis must choose between conversion and exile
▪ 1146: capture of Meknes by the Almohads; persecution of the Jews
▪ 1147: capture of Tlemcen by the Almohads; persecution of the Jews
▪ 1147: Almohad invasion of Spain: expulsion of Jews or forced conversions
▪ 1147: capture of Marrakech by the Almohads; persecution of the Jews
▪ 1147: start of Almohad persecutions against the Jews of North Africa
▪ 1148: start of the exodus of Maimonides fleeing the intolerance of the Almohads
▪ 1148: Almohadin of Morocco gives Jews the choice of converting to Islam or being expelled.
▪ 1152: advent of Abd el Moumin in Morocco; choice for Christians and Jews between conversion or death
▪ 1159: controversy between Maimonides and the rabbi of Fez on the attitude towards forcible converts
▪ 1160: capture of Ifriqiya by the Moroccans of Abd el Moumen; Jews and Christians must choose between death and conversion; Jews are converted by force and superficially.
▪ 1165–1178: Yemen: Jews throughout the country were given the choice (under the new constitution) to convert to Islam or die
▪ 1165: chief rabbi of the Maghreb burned alive. The Rambam fled to Egypt.
▪ 1165: flight of Maimonides to Egypt to escape the Almohads
▪ 1171: in Egypt, decree recalling obedience to ordinances concerning the submission of Jewish and Christian infidels under penalty of death
▪ 1184: the Almohads impose distinctive signs on Christians and Jews in Spain
▪ 1198: forced conversion of the Jews of Aden
▪ 1220: tens of thousands of Jews killed by Muslims after being blamed for the Mongol invasion, Turkey, Iraq, Syria, Egypt
▪ 1232: massacre of the Jews of Marrakech
▪ 1266: the tomb of the Patriarchs of Hebron is converted into a mosque and closed to Jews and Christians
▪ 1267: Mamluk Sultan Baybars forbids Jews from entering the vault of the Patriarchs in Hebron; the ban ended exactly five centuries later in 1967
▪ 1270: Sultan Baibars of Egypt resolved to burn all the Jews, a ditch having been dug for this purpose; but at the last moment he repented and instead demanded a heavy tribute, in which many perished.
▪ 1270: widespread segregation of Jews in Andalusia
▪ 1276: 2nd pogrom of Fez, Morocco
▪ 1284: In Baghdad, the Jewish doctor Ibn Kammuna died locked in a trunk after writing “a book in which he showed irreverence towards the prophecies”; he escapes a lynching and is threatened with the stake
▪ 1291: death of the converted Jew Sad al Dawla, grand vizier of Argun Khan in Iran, a rank which provoked the anger of the Muslim court
▪ 1291: forced conversion of the Jews of Tabriz in Persia
▪ 1301: start of the persecution of the Jews in Egypt
▪ 1318: beheading of Rashid aldin Tabid, historian and Persian minister, Jewish convert who provoked the anger of Muslim elites
▪ 1318: forced conversion of the Jews of Tabriz in Persia
▪ 1333: forced conversion of the Jews of Baghdad
▪ 1333: the traveler Ibn Battuta complains that Djenkchi Khan djagataï allows Jews and Christians to repair their places of worship
▪ 1334: forced conversion of the Jews of Baghdad
▪ 1344: forced conversion of the Jews of Baghdad
▪ 1351: trial of Jews (in Cairo?) accused of desecration, who must choose between conversion or death
▪ 1385 : Massacres du Khorasan, Iran
▪ 1390: foundation of the first Jewish ghetto in Fez
▪ 1391: in Morocco, persecution of Jews from Spain
▪ 1438: creation of ghettos for Jews in the cities of Morocco, under the name “mellah”
▪ 1438: 1st massacres in the Mellah ghetto, North Africa
▪ 1448: in Egypt, decree recalling obedience to ordinances concerning the submission of Jewish and Christian infidels under penalty of death
▪ 1450: trial of Jews accused of having written the name of Mohammed in their synagogue in Fustat; they are converted by force
▪ 1465: In Fez, pogroms after the discovery in the Jewish quarter of the tomb of the city’s founder, a descendant of Mohammed…; Jews are forced to move to the ghetto (11 Jews left alive)
▪ 1492: Jewish community of Touat in Morocco is massacred; synagogues destroyed
▪ 1516: Algerian Jews receive the official status of dhimmi from the Ottomans; certain colors are forbidden to them (red and green); they are not allowed to ride horses or carry weapons; they must pay the discriminatory tax; their representative is ritually slapped during the delivery of tribute to the authorities
▪ 1517: 1st pogrom in Safed, Ottoman Palestine
▪ 1517: 1st pogrom of Hebron, Ottoman Palestine
▪ Massacre of Marsa ibn Ghazi, Ottoman Libya
▪ 1521: expulsion of Jews from Belgrade by the Ottomans
▪ 1524: expulsion of Jews from Buda in Hungary by the Ottomans
▪ 1535: pogrom then expulsion of Jews from Tunisia
▪ 1554: looting and persecution against the Jewish population of Marrakech by the Turks who took the city
▪ 1574: civil war in Morocco between three claimants; Jews are victims of all camps
▪ 1577: Passover massacre, Ottoman Empire
▪ 1588–1629 : pogroms of Mahalay, Iran
▪ 1604: start of a period of famine, violence and forced conversions of the Jewish population of Fez: 2000 conversions in 2 years
▪ 1608: persecution for two years of the Jews of Taroudat by the Berbers
▪ 1622: forced conversion of the Jews of Persia
▪ 1630–1700: Yemenite Jews were considered “impure” and therefore forbidden to touch a Muslim or a Muslim’s food. They were obliged to humble themselves before a Muslim, walk on the left side and greet him first. They could not build houses taller than those of a Muslim or ride a camel or horse, and when riding a mule or donkey, they had to sit on the side. When entering the Muslim quarter, a Jew had to take off his shoes and walk barefoot. If attacked with stones or fists by Muslim youths, a Jew was not allowed to defend himself.
▪ 1650: Jews from Tunisia are deported to special neighborhoods called “hara”
▪ 1650: forced conversion of the Jews of Persia, under Shah Abbas II
▪ 1656: Jews expelled from Isfahan in Iran
▪ 1660: 2 pogroms in Safed and Tiberias, Ottoman Palestine
▪ 1670: Expulsion of Mawza, Yemen
▪ 1676: expulsion of Jews from Sanaa in Yemen
▪ 1678: forced conversion of Jews in Yemen
▪ 1679–1680: Sanaa massacres, Yemen
▪ 1700: massacre of Jews in Yemen
▪ 1747 : Massacres de Mashhad, Iran
▪ 1758: executions of a Jew and an Armenian in Constantinople for violation of the legislation on the clothing of infidels
▪ 1770: expulsion of Jews from Jeddah in Arabia
▪ 1785 : Tripoli Porom, Libya ottomane
▪ 1790–92: Pogrom of Tetouan. Morocco (Jews of Tetouan undressed and lined up)
▪ 1790: destruction of most of the Jewish communities in Morocco
▪ 1800: new decree adopted in Yemen, prohibiting Jews from wearing new or good clothes. Jews were forbidden to ride mules or donkeys, and were sometimes rounded up for long, naked marches through the Roob al Khali desert.
▪ 1805: 1st pogrom in Ottoman Algeria against the Jews of Algiers after a famine. French
consul Dubois-Thainville saves 200 Jews by sheltering them in his consulate.
▪ 1805: exile of Jews from Algiers to Tunis and Livorno
▪ 1805, the leader of the Jewish Nation of Algiers, Naphthalie Busnach, is killed while riots ravage the neighborhoods.
▪ 1806: expulsion by fatwa of the Jews of Sali in Morocco
▪ 1806: ban on Moroccan Jews wearing Western clothing
▪ 1806: the janissaries of the dey of Algiers massacre and pillage in the Jewish quarter
▪ 1807: expulsion of Jews from Tetouan
▪ 1808: 1st massacres in the Mellah ghetto, North Africa
▪ 1815, the chief rabbi of Algiers, Isaac Aboulker, is beheaded during a riot.
▪ 1815: the Jews of Algiers are forced to fight against an invasion of locusts
▪ 1815: 2nd pogrom of Algiers, Ottoman Algeria
▪ 1816: in Algeria, ban on carrying weapons for Jews and Christians
▪ 1820: Massacres of Sahalu Lobiant, Ottoman Syria
▪ 1828 : pogrom de Baghdad, Iraq ottoman
▪ 1830: 3rd pogrom of Algeria, Ottoman Algeria
▪ 1830: start of the persecution of Jews in Persia, caused by the Russian advance in the Caucasus
▪ 1830: ethnic cleansing of Jews in Tabriz, Iran
▪ 1834: 2nd pogrom of Hebron, Ottoman Palestine
▪ 1834 : Pogrom de Safed, Palestine ottomane
▪ 1838: Druze attack in Safed, Ottoman Palestine
▪ 1839: Massacre of the Mashadi Jews, Iran
▪ 1839: forced conversion of surviving Jews from Mashadi
▪ 1839: campaign of forced conversions of Iranian Jews
▪ 1840: persecution of the Jews of Damascus; ritual murder case
▪ 1840: forced conversion of the Jews of Mashadi
▪ 1841: massive murders of Jews in Morocco; the sultan is obliged to consider the Jews as his personal property, which helps to protect them
▪ 1840: Damascus, ritual murders (French Muslims and Christians kidnapped, tortured and killed Jewish children for entertainment), Ottoman Syria
▪ 1844: 1st Cairo massacre, Ottoman Egypt
▪ 1847: Dayr al-Qamar Pogrom, Liban ottoman
▪ 1847: ethnic cleansing of Jews in Jerusalem, Ottoman Palestine
▪ 1848: 1st pogrom of Damascus, Syria
▪ 1848: total disappearance of the Jews of Mashhad
▪ 1850: 1st pogrom of Aleppo, Ottoman Syria
▪ 1854: anti-Jewish pogrom in Demnate, Morocco
▪ 1857: beheading in Tunis of the Jewish coachman Batou Sfez, accused of blasphemy, while he was drunk
▪ 1860: 2nd pogrom of Damascus, Ottoman Syria
▪ 1862: 1st pogrom of Beirut, Ottoman Lebanon
▪ 1866 : pogrom at Kuzguncuk, Turquie Ottomane
▪ 1867: Barfurush massacre, Ottoman Türkiye
▪ 1868: Eyub Pogrom, Ottoman Türkiye
▪ 1869: Massacre of Tunis, Ottoman Tunisia
▪ 1869: Massacre of Sfax, Ottoman Tunisia
▪ 1864–1880: Marrakech massacre, Morocco
▪ 1870: 2nd Alexandria massacres, Ottoman Egypt
▪ 1870: 1st pogrom in Istanbul, Ottoman Türkiye
▪ 1871: 1st Damanhur massacres, Ottoman Egypt
▪ 1872: Massacres in Edirne, Ottoman Türkiye
▪ 1872: 1st pogrom of Izmir, Ottoman Türkiye
▪ 1873: 2nd massacre of Damanhur, Ottoman Egypt
▪ 1874: 2nd pogrom of Izmir, Ottoman Türkiye
▪ 1874: 2nd pogrom of Istanbul, Ottoman Türkiye
▪ 1874: 2nd pogrom of Beirut, Ottoman Lebanon
▪ 1875: 2 pogroms in Aleppo, Ottoman Syria
▪ 1875: Massacre on the island of Djerba, Ottoman Tunisia
▪ 1877 : 3e massacre de Damanhur, Egypte ottomane
▪ 1877: Pogrom of Mansura, Ottoman Egypt
▪ 1882: Massacre of Homs, Ottoman Syria
▪ 1882: 3rd massacre of Alexandria, Ottoman Egypt
▪ 1889: after the funeral of a rabbi, deemed too discreet, the Jewish cemetery of Baghdad was confiscated
▪ 1889: looting of the Jewish quarter of Baghdad
▪ 1890: 2nd Cairo massacre, Ottoman Egypt
▪ 1890, 3e pogrom de Damas, Syrie ottomane
▪ 1891: 4th massacre of Damanahur, Ottoman Egypt
▪ 1897: murders in Tripoli, Ottoman Libya
▪ 1903&1907: Taza & Settat, pogroms, Morocco
▪ 1890: Massacres of Tunis, Ottoman Tunisia
▪ 1901–1902: 3rd Cairo massacre, Ottoman Egypt
▪ 1901–1907: 4th Alexandria massacres, Ottoman Egypt
▪ 1903: 1st Port Said massacres, Ottoman Egypt
▪ 1903–1940: Pogroms of Taza and Settat, Morocco
▪ 1904: massacre of Jews in Yemen
▪ 1907: Casablanca, pogrom, Morocco
▪ 1908: 2nd Port Said massacre, Ottoman Egypt
▪ 1909: comment from the British vice-consul of Mosul: “The attitude of Muslims towards Christians and Jews is that of a master towards his slaves.”
▪ 1910: blood libel of Shiraz
▪ 1911: Shiraz pogrom
▪ 1912: 4th Fez, Pogrom, Morocco
▪ 1914: expulsion of Jews from Palestine old enough to bear arms by the Ottomans
▪ 1917: Jewish Inquisition of Baghdadi, Ottoman Empire
▪ 1918–1948: adoption of a law prohibiting the raising of a Jewish orphan, Yemen
▪ 1920: Irbid massacres: British mandate in Palestine
▪ 1920–1930: Arab riots, British Mandate Palestine
▪ 1921: 1st Jaffa riots, British Mandate Palestine
▪ 1922: Massacres of Djerba, Tunisia
▪ 1922: law of forced conversion of orphans in Yemen, concerning Jews including as adults
▪ 1927: 60 Jews killed by Arabs in the Mellah of Casablanca Morocco
▪ 1928: Massacres of Ikhwan, in Egypt and under British mandate in Palestine.
▪ 1928: Jewish orphans sold into slavery and forced to convert to Islam by the Muslim Brotherhood, Yemen
▪ 1929: anti-Jewish riots, British mandate: in August 1929, the Jews demanded the construction of the Western Wall; pogroms in Jerusalem, Hebron, Safed. To stop the violence, the British reject this request
▪ 1929: 3rd Hebron Pogrom under British Mandate Palestine.
▪ 1929 3e pogrom de Safed, mandate britannique Palestine.
▪ 1933: 2nd Jaffa riots, British mandate in Palestine.
▪ 1934: Anti-Jewish pogrom in Constantine Algeria. 200 Jewish stores were raided, the total material damage was estimated at more than 150 million francs. It also sent a quarter of Constantine’s Jewish population into poverty.
▪ 1934: Pogroms in Thrace, Türkiye
▪ 1934: 1st massacres in Farhud, Iraq
▪ 1936: 3rd Jaffa riots, British Mandate Palestine
▪ 1936: 2e massacre of Farhud, Irak
▪ 1938: boycott of Jews in Egypt
▪ 1939: discovery of 3 bombs in synagogues in Cairo
▪ 1941 : 3e massacre de Farhud, Iraq
▪ 1941: persecution of Jews in Libya
▪ 1941: massacre of Jews in Baghdad, with the support of the authorities: approx. 170 dead
▪ 1942: collaboration of the mufti with the Nazis. Plays a role in the final solution
▪ 1942: Struma disaster, Türkiye
▪ 1942: Nile Delta pogroms, Egypt
▪ 1938–1945: Arab collaboration with the Nazis
▪ 1942: discriminatory tax law of Varlik Vergisi in Turkey against Jews and Christians
▪ 1942: looting of Jewish property in Benghazi and deportation to the desert
▪ 1944: attack on the Jewish quarter of Damascus
▪ 1945: anti-Jewish and anti-Christian riots in Egypt; churches and synagogues destroyed
▪ 1945: 4th Cairo massacre, Egypt
▪ 1945: Pogrom of Tripoli, Libya
▪ 1947: segregation measures against Jews in Egypt
▪ 1947: pogrom in Libya; approx. 130 dead
▪ 1947 : Pogroms d’Aden au Yemen
▪ 1947: 3rd pogrom d’Alep, Syrie
▪ 1948: “emptying” of the Jewish quarter of Damascus, Syria
▪ 1948: 1st Arab-Israeli war (1 Jew killed in 100)
▪ 1948 : Oujda & Jerada Pogroms, Morocco
▪ 1948: 1st Libyan Inquisition of the Jews
▪ 1948: attacks by the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood against Jewish traders
▪ 1950: massive departure of Jews from Arab countries
▪ 1951: 2nd Libyan Inquisition of the Jews
▪ 1952: anti-Jewish and anti-Christian pogroms in Suez
▪ 1954: assassinations and attacks in Algeria affecting the Jewish community, the desecration and destruction of 30 synagogues are attributed to Muslim populations.
▪ The desecration in 1960 of the synagogue of Algiers as well as the cemetery of Oran,
▪ 1954: Massacre of Sidi Kacem. 6 Jews were beaten and then burned alive with their children.
▪ 1955: anti-Jewish and Christian riots in Türkiye; looting of churches and Jewish stores
▪ 1955: attack on the rabbi of Batna,
▪ 1956: fire in a synagogue in Oran,
▪ 1956: in response to the attack on Suez, Nasser expels almost all Jews from Egypt, around 90,000 people, and confiscates their property
▪ 1957: murder of the rabbi of Nedroma,
▪ 1957: murder of the rabbi of Médéa,
▪ 1957–1962: attacks in the Jewish neighborhoods of Oran and Constantine.
▪ 1961: grenade thrown into a synagogue in Boghari, Bousaada,
▪ 1961: ransacking of the Casbah synagogue in Algiers,
▪ September 2, 1961, the assassination of a Jewish hairdresser in Oran and anti-Jewish attacks
▪ 1955 : 3rd pogrom d’Istanbul, Turkey
▪ 1955: anti-Jewish riots in Izmir
▪ 1956: 1st Egyptian Inquisition of the Jews
▪ 1956: in response to the attack on Suez, Nasser expels tens of thousands of Jews and confiscates their property
▪ 1960: a Saudi newspaper describes Eichmann: “the man who can be proud of having killed five million Jews”
▪ 1961: in Algeria, assassination of Jewish musician Sheik Raymond
▪ 1962: desecration of the Jewish cemetery of Oran
▪ 1962 : pogrom d’Oran
▪ July 5, 1962, a few days after the independence of Algeria, between 900 and 1,300 Europeans, notably Jews, were massacred in Oran.
▪ 1964: the Egyptian army weekly notes: “In essence, the Jew has no qualifications to bear arms.”
▪ 1964: Nasser tells a German neo-Nazi newspaper: “No one takes seriously the lie of 6 million murdered Jews”
▪ 1965: the Egyptian military manual presents the war against Israel as a jihad and quotes the Koran: “kill them wherever you reach them”
▪ 1965: wave of anti-Semitism in Algeria; flight of the Jewish community
▪ 1965: pogrom in Aden
▪ 1965: 5th pogrom in Fez, Morocco
▪ 1967: 2nd Egyptian Inquisition of the Jews
▪ 1967: Egyptian Jews are herded into camps during the Six Day War
▪ 1967: pogrom in Libya during the Six Day War
▪ 1967: pogroms in Tunisia
▪ 1967: the World Islamic Congress in Amman declares that Jews living in Arab countries must be considered “mortal enemies”
▪ 1967: pogrom in Aden
▪ 1967: arson of the great synagogue of Tunis
▪ 1967: riots in Tunis, Tunisia
▪ 1967: World Islamic Congress in Jordan; it was decided that all Muslim governments must treat Jews “as mortal enemies”.
▪ 1967: publication in Egypt of the anti-Semitic text “The Protocol of the Elders of Zion”
▪ 1967: pogrom and looting of Jewish stores in Tunisia
▪ 1969: Khomeini delivers thirteen speeches in Najaf which will be the basis of his book “The
Islamic Government”; he develops the theme of hatred of Jews, accused of conspiring against Islam everywhere
▪ 1969: execution of Jews in Baghdad
▪ 1970: flight SR-330 Zurich — Tel Aviv crashes in a forest near Würenlingen, killing all 47 occupants. A bomb planted by the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine exploded 9 minutes after takeoff
▪ 1979: start of the flight of 200,000 Iranian Jews after the Islamist revolution.

Mihrimah · 01/10/2025 12:12

this isn’t about Jews or Muslims
this is about genocide
you seem to have a problem with Muslims in general
Not actual genocide and humanity

True jewish people of faith themselves don’t approve the genocide in Palestine

many Jewish people are disgusted by it and are speaking up
Many of them whose families suffered the atrocities of the holocaust disapprove the treatment of Palestine and Gaza

finally people are waking up and seeing the truth

pre 1948, Muslims Jewish and Christians all lived peacefully with one another
Jewish neighbours would leave their children when going to synagogues and likewise Muslims did the same when going to the mosque

long lists from centuries can be written on any faith
Christianity, Judaism, Islam
all have suffered at many times throughout history

your going off the point
might need to get back to your history lessons

PollyPaintsFlowers · 01/10/2025 12:33

Mihrimah · 01/10/2025 12:12

this isn’t about Jews or Muslims
this is about genocide
you seem to have a problem with Muslims in general
Not actual genocide and humanity

True jewish people of faith themselves don’t approve the genocide in Palestine

many Jewish people are disgusted by it and are speaking up
Many of them whose families suffered the atrocities of the holocaust disapprove the treatment of Palestine and Gaza

finally people are waking up and seeing the truth

pre 1948, Muslims Jewish and Christians all lived peacefully with one another
Jewish neighbours would leave their children when going to synagogues and likewise Muslims did the same when going to the mosque

long lists from centuries can be written on any faith
Christianity, Judaism, Islam
all have suffered at many times throughout history

your going off the point
might need to get back to your history lessons

You sound like a bot. You're the one who posted a one sided list of massacres to minimise the horrific atrocity that was October 7th. It looks like you're the one that needed a history lesson. I hope my posts helped you

Also, would you call being the victim of dhimmitude, institutionalised violent oppression, living in peace?

'The historian Bat Ye’or has documented the social, political, economic and religious conditions of dhimmi communities – Jews and Christians – in the Middle East.[2] This is a sad history of dispossession and decline. Legal provisions applying to dhimmis ensured their humiliation and inferiority, and to this was added the often crippling taxes which were allocated to support the Muslim community. Under conditions of dhimmitude there was also a constant risk of jihad conditions being reinvoked – of lawful massacre, enslavement and looting – if the dhimmi community was considered to have failed to live up to the conditions of their pact.[3] According to some jurists, a single non-Muslim’s failure to keep the dhimma conditions could result in the whole community losing its protection, and the jihad restarting.
History records many examples where dhimmis were attacked by their fellow Muslim citizens on such grounds, for example the massacres of the Jews of Granada in 1066, and of the Christians of Damascus in 1860.

Like sexism and racism, dhimmitude is not only manifested in legal and social structures, but in a psychology of inferiority, a will to serve, which the dominated community adopts in self-preservation. This was described by Bat Ye’or:
The law required from dhimmis a humble demeanor, eyes lowered, a hurried pace. They had to give way to Muslims in the street, remain standing in their presence and keep silent, only speaking to them when given permission. They were forbidden to defend themselves if attacked, or to raise a hand against a Muslim on pain of having it amputated. Any criticism of the Koran or Islamic law annuled the protection pact. In addition the dhimmi was duty-bound to be grateful, since it was Islamic law that spared his life.
The whole corpus of these practices ... formed an unchanging behavior pattern which was perpetuated from generation to generation for centuries. It was so deeply internalised that it escaped critical evaluation and invaded the realm of self-image, which was henceforth dominated by a conditioning in self-devaluation. ... This situation, determined by a corpus of precise legislation and social behaviour patterns based on prejudice and religious traditions, induced the same type of mentality in all dhimmi groups. It has four major characteristics: vulnerability, humiliation, gratitude and alienation.[4]'

Source

The Dhimmitude of the West: A New Trajectory?

Dhimmitude is an Islamic phenomenon. It describes the condition of submission to Islamic dominance, yet without conversion to the Islamic faith. Under classical theological formulations, developed in the first centuries of Islam, the region where Isla...

https://www.meforum.org/the-dhimmitude-of-the-west-a-new-trajectory#_ftn3

Mihrimah · 01/10/2025 12:49

You sound Islamophobic

I sound human

go out and see how many Jews have spoken out GENOCIDE against HUMANITY

This isn’t about faith anymore

it’s about human rights and killing children, which if you are a human, would affect you

I would speak up the same if Israeli children were being starved and shot waiting in a line for a bag of flour

atrocities on either side are unacceptable

but genocide and starvation on the Gaza population comprising of majority children where their limbs are torn off and then not being allowed to leave the country for treatment!

waiting in queues for food and then being shot!

You seem to have an issue with Islam and bringing up random articles

All Islamic related

Your hatred for Islam has overshadowed all sense and humanity

Goodbye pollypaintsflowers

i really wish you peace no matter how deep your hatred runs for humanity

PollyPaintsFlowers · 01/10/2025 13:12

We can all see through your name calling. Stating facts and listing sources isn't Islamophobic or anything else. You may not like the truth, but that truth doesn't equal hatred

SummerFeverVenice · 02/10/2025 20:56

PollyPaintsFlowers · 01/10/2025 13:12

We can all see through your name calling. Stating facts and listing sources isn't Islamophobic or anything else. You may not like the truth, but that truth doesn't equal hatred

I personally think it is odd that you are trying to apply societies from 1000 to almost 200 years ago to today and then linking these historic events to the Muslim religion?

In the same time period of 1066 to 1860, Christians went on all their crusades against Muslims and Jews in the Middle East as well as other Christians in France and Byzantium. These Christians regularly massacred and expelled Jewish communities. The Spanish even had a good 500yrs of persecution through the Inquisition.

But are we like this today? Is Prince William gong to take the cross and go massacre families of Muslims like Richard I did?

We might have the same religion as our ancestors, but the vast majority of societies have progressed beyond where they were in 1066-1860. If you want to avoid a Taliban or ISIS style regressive government then the solution is to NOT bomb a civilian populace repeatedly. The chaos and destruction of constant attacks creates the opportunity for such extremists to seize power.

We are even seeing it here in the UK due to fraying social systems, failing public services, and the increase in poverty and economic uncertainty with the rise of the racist far right.

SummerFeverVenice · 02/10/2025 21:19

@PollyPaintsFlowers
And here's a more comprehensive list of the ethnic cleansing and systemic murders including beheading of Jews by Muslims in the Middle East

You have an awful lot of events that happened in African countries and Turkyie, which last I looked are not part of the Middle East.

It’s all awful though, a constant state of persecution. It is by no means ok that any of it happened.

I do wonder what you think when you list events like the Hebron Synagogue converted to a Mosque in 1266 in comparison to the hundreds of mosques and 3 churches completely destroyed by the IDF over the past two years in Gaza?

Many of the items on your list that add up to ethnic cleansing over almost 1,500yrs could also all be listed for Gaza over the past 2 years.

So I do wonder if you agree at least that what is happening in Gaza amounts to ethnic cleansing?

Ellen2shoes · 03/10/2025 00:53

PollyPaintsFlowers · 01/10/2025 11:44

Does it cover how Arabs colonised the Middle East for hundreds of years prior to that? Raping, murdering and enslaving as they went...

The clue is in the title. I learned a lot from this book. It’s excellent. Have you read it?

PollyPaintsFlowers · 03/10/2025 05:42

Ellen2shoes · 03/10/2025 00:53

The clue is in the title. I learned a lot from this book. It’s excellent. Have you read it?

So it's just a one sided account then? I prefer more balanced sources than propaganda dressed up as literature, I develop a more rounded view then

PollyPaintsFlowers · 03/10/2025 05:47

SummerFeverVenice · 02/10/2025 20:56

I personally think it is odd that you are trying to apply societies from 1000 to almost 200 years ago to today and then linking these historic events to the Muslim religion?

In the same time period of 1066 to 1860, Christians went on all their crusades against Muslims and Jews in the Middle East as well as other Christians in France and Byzantium. These Christians regularly massacred and expelled Jewish communities. The Spanish even had a good 500yrs of persecution through the Inquisition.

But are we like this today? Is Prince William gong to take the cross and go massacre families of Muslims like Richard I did?

We might have the same religion as our ancestors, but the vast majority of societies have progressed beyond where they were in 1066-1860. If you want to avoid a Taliban or ISIS style regressive government then the solution is to NOT bomb a civilian populace repeatedly. The chaos and destruction of constant attacks creates the opportunity for such extremists to seize power.

We are even seeing it here in the UK due to fraying social systems, failing public services, and the increase in poverty and economic uncertainty with the rise of the racist far right.

On the contrary,no was agreeing with @Mihrimah that the conflict didn't start on October 7th

Although if you want to talk about religions evolving, some have. Others still think it's ok for old men to marry 9 year old girls and wage holy wars. The crusades are over, jihads and Intifadas are still going. And if you look at Hamas' charter they clearly state this is a religious battle for them. I'm afraid Gaza is already regressive

Ellen2shoes · 03/10/2025 08:14

PollyPaintsFlowers · 03/10/2025 05:42

So it's just a one sided account then? I prefer more balanced sources than propaganda dressed up as literature, I develop a more rounded view then

Why would you assume that it is propaganda? You haven’t read it. I don’t think your views are balanced at all. Your comments are hateful and Islamophobic.

PollyPaintsFlowers · 03/10/2025 08:32

Ellen2shoes · 03/10/2025 08:14

Why would you assume that it is propaganda? You haven’t read it. I don’t think your views are balanced at all. Your comments are hateful and Islamophobic.

Nah, the days of namecalling over rightful criticism of aspects of Islam are over. No more hiding behind claims of 'islamaphobia'

Facts aren't hateful either, they're just facts

And if a book only tells one side of the story, what else is it?

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