Starmer’s support for Palestine

[Steph888]

Am I alone in seeing this as one of the darkest days in UK history?

Never before did I think I’d end up living under a government who reward terrorism.

Starmer and Labour are grotesque. History will not be kind to them. They have now empowered all terrorists and their supporters.

We deserve such better than this reprehensible government. They disgust me.

You quoted me, I replied. If you wanted to quote someone else to contextualise your argument - then that would make more sense? You asked why people link the two - directly quoting me as an example - and I gave a fairly thorough answer.

Israelis have been very explicit about the genocide they are currently committing

Absolutely spot on! Shameless people still have the audacity to talk about holocaust and support the genocide of isralies

And again, glossing over Hamas’s part in this and their involvement in what they’ve brought upon their own people, and their continuing betrayal of the Palestinians they claim to be fighting for. I really do despair….

They have their control centre situated in tunnels under hospitals and schools. Their leaders are millionaires living in safe countries - they don’t want this to end. They’re making a lot of money on the back of it. Is any of that okay ?

Whats happening in Gaza is genocide. And Israel is committing this genocide.

But that’s not why Starmer has done this. He’s done it because his far left Marxist Labour Party are a bunch of anti semites and like to hide behind Muslims to pretend that they care about Gaza. Most far left Marxists latch onto causes just to get their anti semitism out of their system. Gaza is just a convenient vehicle. What a shame for the people suffering genocide that they are being used by Marxists.

One does not allow for the other.

So by your thought process one allows for the other.

Yet Hamas is Terrorists organisation and the other a government.

If you are so critical of Hamas as a Terrorists organisation, it would follow from a critical thinking perspective that you would expect a higher level of behaviour from a internationally recognised legitimate government.

If anything it makes it worse that we are watching a government that has been fawned over being allowed to behave like this on a world stage.

Listening to the Palestinian Ambassador Husam Zomlot’s response to Laura Kuenssberg on the issue today, I was struck as always by how articulate, eloquent, measured, patient and intelligent it was. A brilliant explanation of why Palestine should have been recognised long ago. If we were ‘to sit around a table with these people’, Dr Zomlot would be a fine addition.

Mm. I've read that The International Association of Genocide Scholars calls itself a body of experts, but joining requires only a form and a fee. Members include parody accounts like ‘Mo Cookie' and ‘Emperor Palpatine. (www.thefp.com)

Starmer is supporting for the Palestinian people who deserve to be treated as humans, people who have rights who have autonomy

for too long their suffering has been ignored by too many counties

TBH I think this should have happened years ago.

How can we say a two state solution is the answer without recognising one of those states? What’s supposed to magically change to make it a state?

I think recognising Palestine as a country is the first step towards bringing both sides to the table. It can’t be held back as the final “reward” only when Palestine has done xyz, and all the while a genocide goes on.

Yes, I 100% know Hamas are terrible and the events of Oct 7 were appalling. Genuinely so. And of course hostages must be released.

But it’s got to be wrong to allow genocide if the Palestinian people to carry on with no recognition they are even a separate people until they do what, just give up and say “do whatever you like to us?” Or they just die?

I don’t think he has.

I think he’s done it because the British people have demonstrated that we won’t stand for turning a blind eye to genocide.

People a lot higher in decision making than you or I have made the decision to note Hamas as a terrorist organisation, while not giving the same label to Netanhayu. So there you have it.

Israel are the worst terrorists in the middle east

Labour, far left marxists?! Are you off your rocker?

I believe that it is giving into terrorism, Oct 23 was an appalling act and hostages are still ring held. The issues in this area of the world are complex, rhe actions by the U.K. govt are in my view nog thought out.

Nah.

I do believe Israel is committing genocide, but IAGS is very dubious, and the media should have exercised more caution in publicizing their resolution. It doesn't carry any real weight. Others do, just not IAGS.

FP is highly biased and slanted, too, but turning credibility of sources into a team sport isn't helpful.

Are you?

Ah, so what you're saying is there are deserving and undeserving civilians.

How very victorian.

Gotta love how people can justify not caring about some lives.

i notice that you don't think that Hamas has betrayed tens of thousands of ordinary Palestinians to advance its agenda...

Oh give over.

Palestine FOREVER. 🇵🇸

Sorry you’re reaching with that reply, where did the poster you’re replying to say that??

the last election was in 2006, nearly 20 years ago. Given the average age of Palestinians is 19, the vast majority wouldn’t have been of voting age (or even born) then

Well apparently Hamas. They seemed to think killing innocent people was justified on October 7th or are we forgetting that now?

These are the people Starmer has just rewarded

In Gaza City, Hamas just executed three Gazans at close range, accused of being associates of Yasser Abu Shabab and collaborators with Israel.
Massive crowds of Palestinian civilians gathered to cheer, many filming the killings on their phones.

Don’t click the link if you’re sensitive.

How many people who claim to be pro-Palestinian speak out against this?