To say love of dogs has GONE TOO FAR !!

[HildegardVonBingham]

DP’s grandparent’s 60th wedding anniversary, and we are all in the Lake District to celebrate. Every pub and cafe is crawling with wet dogs. We went out for dinner this evening and the pub was full of incessantly yapping dogs. A woman let her dogs piss all over the floor of the bar - disgusting. When confronted, she just turned on her heel and left. It is almost as bad in London - going to the loo in a pub is fraught with danger as you may run trip over the leash of a sausage dog with complex emotional needs and break your neck 😡😡😡 AIBU to say all dog owners should have to have a license and go on a civic sense training course at a minimum / be made to live in one big kennel with their mutts away from us at a maximum?

And @Onleemoi , you’re right, it’s like banging your head against a wall. I got caught up in a thread a couple of months ago where me and another poster (it may have been you!) actually went and found at least half a dozen dog free cafes/restaurants in the vicinity of a poster complaining THAT NOWHERE IS DOG FREE!! Of course, they all had something else wrong with them and were therefore unusable 😂😂. It really is bizarre.

But they’re making more money so they don’t care about putting others off. So many people have dogs now and have in the past been limited to where they can go but are spending the money now

For what it’s worth I’m a dog owner, dog lover, and don’t like them in restaurants, shops etc. They do smell and it is unhygienic.
Outdoor cafes yes

I was on that thread. Some places were too cheap, some too busy and some too posh. 🤣

There’s no pleasing people who are hellbent on being offended.

I don’t mind dogs in pubs and cafes but they need to be off the seats, house trained, and with a reasonably competent owner.

That thread is still going 🤣 We're on thread five now I think

Dogs being allowed in shouldn’t be the standard though! These places are for humans

they shouldn’t be in pubs and cafes. It’s unhygienic and they stink.

That’s for the owner of the business to decide. Same as if pets are on seats or not. You can write as many posts on mn as you like but it won’t help.

@Onleemoi

pets should NOT be in seats in pubs/cafes. Gross and unhygienic. Why do they need to be sat on a chair or a sofa. A dogs place is on the floor, end of.

Except it’s not end of at all.

No dogs in -
McDonalds
Nandos
Zizzi
Bella Italia
KFC
The Savoy Grill
Greggs
Pizza Express
Wagamama
Pizza Hut
Beefeater
Subway
Toby Carvery
Burger King
The Ritz
Premier Inn
Libraries
Zara
Primark
B&M
Most shopping centres
IKEA
Children's play areas
Swimming pools - including lidos and sea pools
Supermarkets
Lots of beaches in the summer months
Many parks

Why? Because they don’t answer back and you don’t need to reason with them?

@Onleemoi

well, what reason is there for a dog to be on a chair or sofa in a cafe or pub?

I’m a huge dog lover but I’m not overly keen on taking my gorgeous Cavapoo out to cafes etc.
It’s not fun for her and I would much rather take her out before, then leave her snoozing happily while I go out and relax.

A perfectly valid opinion.

But the reality is it’s up to the proprietor.

@Tutorpuzzle

well, what reason is there for a dog to be on a chair or sofa in a cafe or pub?

I don’t want to see on the same seat as a dogs naked arse

It makes it easier for them to eat off their plates, and to converse with them if they sit at the table.

Your house, your rules @Cherrytree86 . Anywhere else, not for you to decide. But you can always go elsewhere.

No dogs in -
McDonalds
Nandos
Zizzi
Bella Italia
KFC
The Savoy Grill
Greggs
Pizza Express
Wagamama
Pizza Hut
Beefeater
Subway
Toby Carvery
Burger King
The Ritz
Premier Inn
Libraries
Zara
Primark
B&M
Most shopping centres
IKEA
Children's play areas
Swimming pools - including lidos and sea pools
Supermarkets
Lots of beaches in the summer months
Many parks

Comfort. You can’t go straight from your doggie stroller to a wooden floor.

Food. Much easier to eat from the human’s plates if you’re on the save level.

Noise. Reckon the incessant yapping can be heard better at that height.

Three valid reasons.

@SeaAndStars 🤣🤣🤣

Hope you don’t mind, I’ve copied for future threads!

The smell of a wet dog is absolutely revolting.

I walked into a cafe by the river today and walked out because next to the door (inside) was a couple with the most foul smelling dog ever. It had been in the river and just stank of WET DOG.

I love dogs but no way is that acceptable in a cafe.

Our dog does not yap. She is a boxer, not sure if just her or typical of the breed she rarely barks.

On the rare occasions she has been taken to an eating place we take her ‘settle mat’. She is trained to quietly sit on the mat.

The problems occur with crap owners. My youngest daughter works for a store similar to Primark and had had to clean up dog wee.

None of those places exist in my small rural market town, we live in a neighbouring village and we can walk there. There are 15 mostly independent cafes that I can count and ONE which states no dogs allowed. I shouldn’t have to travel a long way to avoid dogs when I’ve got more than enough places to eat/have coffee within walking distance. That’s the entire point, things have gone too far when it’s a tiny minority that won’t allow dogs.

Ps are you seriously suggesting I should go to somewhere like Premier Inn or Greggs for my Saturday morning coffee?