To think there is some kind of weird push towards the far right?

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I’m the first to admit that I am not the best informed - I prefer to keep my life stress free and simple as much as possible, and don’t have a TV, don’t read papers, and only listen to the radio when I’m driving (which is quite often). For my own mental health I prefer to live in my own little bubble.

But even with my limited exposure to media, I’ve noticed on Radio 2, both on the news and Jeremy Vine’s show, Reform are being given so much air time considering their paltry amount of MPs, the polls are being discussed regularly even though we’re years from an election. More than once listening to the radio I’ve thought the way they’re talking makes it sound like Reform winning the next election is a done deal, and thought to myself that this is how self fulfilling prophecies happen.

My algorithms on FB are seriously messed up. Despite having never been remotely interested in anything in the least bit right wing, all of a sudden I’m getting endless posts from knuckle dragging ‘patriot’ groups that I don’t even follow, with really horrendous and openly racist comments, thousands of them, which somehow FB are allowing to remain even though any kind of hate speech has always been censored on there. Why are these posts suddenly being allowed and pushed in my face?

Alongside this there seems to be a new story pretty much every day about the latest scandal involving Labour (again reported by the BBC), ok these things aren’t great although compared to the Tories’ rap list from their last spell in government, are fairly small fry really. It seems like there’s an active push for people to rebel away from the left just as the far right are gaining momentum.

Has anyone else noticed this or am I talking shite?

Spot on.

People should take responsibility for themselves and realise their civic duty to do so before they vote for anyone!

Defending democracy and freedom is not a 'relative' thing, it's an argument about what is right and wrong and it's imperative that people shout from the rooftops about what we stand to lose before it's too late!

Sounds good, good luck guys.

That's not the same thing as telling people they're stupid and hateful and bigoted and amoral and then complaining that you haven't managed to win them over.

Nice try, but some of the language you use is indicative of reading lots of left wing material about the far right. I would say the BBC remain firmly Left Wing.

The right has gained traction because they are talking about the issues many people think about and reflect many people’s conclusions as about those issues. The left have increasingly gravitated towards a position which most people realise is nonsensical. They resent bejng forced into a position where they must agree with a nonsensical position. If you u create a kick back it’s going to bounce harder the other way than gently meeting in the middle.

The rise of the far Left with woke and globalist agendas has led to the rise in the far right. Politicians should always listen, if they don’t someone else always will

Yes, isn’t it ironic. They tried to make the word woman meaningless yet that remains very clearly defined. They tried to give power to lots of words yet in the end rendered them meaningless

What do you mean? It is an individual's responsibility to be guided by their own conscience. Fascism, far right politics doesn't allow for freedom or truth, the fight against it isn't relative it isn't a question of accepting it a bit so you need to come to that conclusion yourself.

But what is the truth? The left have surely been arguing for so long that it is whatever you want it to be. Are people you describe as “Far Right” having the “lived experience”.

The centre has been dragged so far left, that people stating things are “Far Right” are looking at it from a certain stand point. For many, a lot of these policies are simply conservative

And if you (generic, not you personally) are an intelligent, responsible and politically astute person, you won't attempt to convince people by calling them stupid, bigoted etc and then blame them for how they respond to your insults and abusiveness. Because the truth is that that is lazy and self indulgent rhetoric designed to make you (again, generic) feel morally superior, and satisfy your urge to shout at people while feeling like a good person for doing it, but it doesn't win hearts and minds, it's a shitty method of communication and it's politically clueless.

That's also responsibility.

Even the Daily Mail have said that Saturday's march was far right (but attended by some well meaning people).

The 'Far left', does that include everybody who voted for the Labour party in last year's election as the Labour party are 'left wing'?

The extreme right have gained traction as the media, journalists and pundits have become passive mouthpieces of politicians and instruments of their power. There is limited scrutiny and pursuance of fairness, objectivity and the 'truth'. This happened in the 18th century where famous writers were paid by the government to undermine the opposition. It was actually the Victorians that brought in ideals into politics. The extreme right want to destroy those ideals, that common ground where rival parties co exist, they go about it by misrepresentation, fabrication and exaggeration, shouting down any opposition with accusations of being 'the far left', or that exercising your freedom to object to a political opinion is "woke" or that voicing an opinion is a "Globalist agenda".

Sounds a bit authoritarian. Just to check, you see yourself as being on the anti fascist side right???

If a Government was in power for 14 years, that didn’t benefit you, your family or your community, the previous Labour government caused major issues within your community, the Conservative government before that ie Thatcher almost drove your community, your job and your family into the ground and you were presented with a choice of Tory/Labour - which are a total ‘No Chance’ based on the issues above, the Greens/libdem/etc have nothing for you to Vote for and along come a party that are saying the right things/appear to be ‘listening’, then can you understand why that voter and many many like them might think ‘right, we’ve tried the others, it hasn’t worked and so I will try something different, it will send a message’, or will you still think ‘they’re slamming the door like children’?

The only way to reach common ground is to stop thinking you’re right and they’re wrong and they must be thick/racist/rightwing/xenophobic and all the other names they are so often called, which incidentally have been uttered that many times they have zero effect, and to fucking listen to each other. Understand where the other side might just be coming from.

All newspapers have agendas and all of them print shite sometimes, by error or design. Your best option is to consume a wide range of media, including the ones that you think are beneath you, while always being aware of their biases and yours.

I'll confess that I rarely go on x- it's a cesspit.
I am on the other sites though. I also post on the feminine boards. I have a female athlete in the house so have also been very vocal with the governing body of the sport.

Not been to a pride march, not my thing, I'm not into loud busy events.

Also a brexiteer FYI. I think the tories broke the country by robbing it blind- they created many more billionaires on their watch. Farage will do the same, his party is made up of the very people that tried to tear down the fabric of our society- he can fuck off.

Labour are turning things around but far too slowly and their comms is shit.

That doesn't excuse continuing the tory rhetoric of blaming a small number of vulnerable people for the crap state of the country. 109,343 people claimed asylum in the UK in the year ending March 2025, this is slightly less than was on the pissup and marginally more than fit in Wembley stadium.

https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/immigration-system-statistics-year-ending-march-2025/how-many-people-claim-asylum-in-the-uk

This thread is rife with words like nazis, fascists, far right, far left and so on.

What is it about posters who think using such words is clever? What do they hope to arise in people?

The words are used to show hatred and have to stop. There are no nazis or fascists - except Hamas et al who keep saying ''we will kill all Jews wherever they are in the world''. They are the only people who can be described as fascist or nazi because they are threatened with extinction. Hamas are also the only ones committing genocide, only they get others to kill their opposition for them. They are funded by Iran. Assad did the same in Syria, the Taliban in Afghanistan. Putin kills off his opposition, and Erdogan has imprisoned thousands of Turks who oppose him at election times. Hamas started the same when it invaded Israel and carried off hundreds of hostages, knowing that the IDF would go straight in and rescue them. Hamas hid behind the Palestinian opposition to their government. Now that government is in exile and the Hamas military rule Gaze. They are responsible for having their opposition killed.

No one should use those words against anyone now, because they are words of a century ago and lasted until after WW2. Why does anyone have to call someone who they don't agree with by those names, nazi, fascist, far right, far left? What do they mean in the present political climate? Are they being used because of lack of political education? Are they the only swear names people know?

In the war the British nation rose behind the union flag and rallied to the need of Britain. They were waving the flag for Britain against Hitler and all he stood for. Now anyone who shows pride in the Union flag is called fascist. By what right does anyone have to exchange national pride for fascism? I think people who use those words at the present time are doing so to stir up civic unrest. They might as well be setting the sunni again the shia muslims. It could become as serious as Tutsi and Hutu. Is that what people want, to start more conflict?

The Labour party classes itself as socialist. When the PM addresses the nation he is flanked by the union flag. Is he fascist when he stands there? Not a lot of people agree with him and what his government have done, but he doesn't have a label, and nor does anyone else.

The far left were Marxists a century ago. Even Russia has it's wealthy and poor now. Hitler was far right, nazi, fascist. Who is as bad as he and deserves to be called the same? Unless people stop using those words we will see more of the political killing of Charlie Kirk.

If folks don't agree with someone, they can say why. There is an old rhyme which says ''sticks and stones will break my bones but names will never hurt me.'' If people continue to use those names of hatred when they just don't agree with someone, then those names will indeed be doing a lot of hurting.

You do know that newspapers lift stories off Facebook don't you?

And i believe a newspaper story i lose my vote?

As you have brought up immigration. (anecdotal)

I have posted this before.
Where my Family comes from is a small rural town.
They have had a constant influx of immigrants for several years.
They are welcome within the town.
But the concern is that the size of the town has doubled and that there is no infrastructure to support the incoming people.
The Drs surgery is now over subscribed
The same for the dentist and schools.
There is very little in the way of public transport and nothing in the way of well paid jobs (think shop work and there was at last count two small "factories")
When the people of the town complain about the fact that the infrastructure is over run and that there is nothing for the new comers to do and no where for them to go (no public transport) they at best are called NIMBYs at worsted racist.

And this is for pointing out that a small rural town is not a good place for immigrants to be.

If you believe everything you read on social media yes I believe you should.

It's the nuanced voices that are being drowned out and lost in all this, unfortunately.

It's horrendous, op. We are living in an Orwellian nightmare where outright lies are somehow allowed to remain as a statement of fact, or completely reinventing history. Two examples, from the recent Tommy Tippee march:

I was walking in front of two gentlemen on Tuesday lunchtime in London. One pipes up "3 million people took part, and there were only 25 arrests out of all those!" I had to use every ounce of self control not to correct him.

Then, there's a photo circulating online, along with the 3 million people claim. A long promenade bedecked in seemingly hundreds of thousands of British flags. The Right are going nuts for this photo of 'millions of patriots flooding the streets to take our country back'. Zoom in and you realise it's AI generated and that's the Arc de Triomph in the background! Absolutely zero critical thinking applied to anything.

And don't even get me started on this step change in the level of anger and aggression on display everywhere. Everyone seems so hateful. All fed by billionaires who seem to derive immense pleasure from turning ordinary people against one another. The other day, someone told me to "go get raped by immigrants". All sense and reason has gone out the window.

Where on earth do you live

Look at her, she's a NAZI NAZI NAZI BIGOT BIGOT BIGOT

In other news, there has been a weird push to the far right.