To think there is some kind of weird push towards the far right?

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I’m the first to admit that I am not the best informed - I prefer to keep my life stress free and simple as much as possible, and don’t have a TV, don’t read papers, and only listen to the radio when I’m driving (which is quite often). For my own mental health I prefer to live in my own little bubble.

But even with my limited exposure to media, I’ve noticed on Radio 2, both on the news and Jeremy Vine’s show, Reform are being given so much air time considering their paltry amount of MPs, the polls are being discussed regularly even though we’re years from an election. More than once listening to the radio I’ve thought the way they’re talking makes it sound like Reform winning the next election is a done deal, and thought to myself that this is how self fulfilling prophecies happen.

My algorithms on FB are seriously messed up. Despite having never been remotely interested in anything in the least bit right wing, all of a sudden I’m getting endless posts from knuckle dragging ‘patriot’ groups that I don’t even follow, with really horrendous and openly racist comments, thousands of them, which somehow FB are allowing to remain even though any kind of hate speech has always been censored on there. Why are these posts suddenly being allowed and pushed in my face?

Alongside this there seems to be a new story pretty much every day about the latest scandal involving Labour (again reported by the BBC), ok these things aren’t great although compared to the Tories’ rap list from their last spell in government, are fairly small fry really. It seems like there’s an active push for people to rebel away from the left just as the far right are gaining momentum.

Has anyone else noticed this or am I talking shite?

The people is that so many peeps are directed by their phones and shit that they HAVE become mindless zombies. I won't insult sheep because mentally they are probably superior to idiots who need apps to tell them when they are thirsty, hungry or how to breathe [withstanding medical conditions].

But some cultures feel "alien" to others. It's generally used term, isn't it. Meaning strange, different and/or unfamiliar. That one doesn't know it and/or fully understand it.
It doesn't imply the people from that culture are bad or good.

So which injustices were inflated and shouldn't have been highlighted? Which ones would people have not been bothered about if not for Russian manipulation?

The damages of gender affirning care?
Men in women's prisons?
2 males in Olympic boxing finals?
Gender critical Women being discriminated against at work?

I think this is bigger - and therefore far more worrying - however. You didn't get sitting Tory MPs defecting to the BNP, for example and their demos weren't anywhere near as well attended.

It’s a sad state of affairs then when adults are incapable of using their own minds and blindly allow themselves to be ‘whipped up’ or directed how to think. That goes for both sides of the political spectrum.

No. No one's opinions & beliefs can ever be 100% 'right' because they are highly subjective. However, I do try very hard to base my beliefs & opinions on actual fact. A lot of the drivel that comes in from social media &, indeed, the press is just rabble rousing myths which are easily debunked ie every asylum seeker gets handed a new iphone as soon as they step off the boat. That's not true, it's been shown to be untrue & yet people still spout it because it feeds into their deepest fears & who needs facts when you can have feels?
The landlord of my local threatened to bar me because I asked how he 'knows' that 'a council' (unnamed) is spending up to £15k on driving lessons for asylum seekers. I haven't been able to find out anything about this anywhere else so I suspect it's floating about in facebook land & I will not believe it until I am given actual evidence.
His gullible mates nodded along as if he was quoting from tablets of stone. That's what I'm talking about &, yes, I am right on this point.

Ok I am.not keen on Mr Starmer but he has been in power for a year he has a lot of destruction to clear up that is going to take a hell of a lot longer than a year.

I wholeheartedly agree. All common sense has left the building in this country at the moment. I can’t believe how many people fall for absolute baseless rubbish these days. It never ceases to amaze me. I understand adults have a full range of intellect and education etc, but honest to God, it’s shocking.

I honestly thought we had more sense as a nation. At this rate, it’s a wonder that a lot don’t still believe in Santa Claus on the basis that they saw him on Santa Cam online last Christmas, or they saw a man dressed like him at the Christmas fayre. They might as well believe it, some of the things they DO believe are even less credible 🤣

It goes to show how laughably easy it is to manipulate the masses while having them believe they are coming to their own independent conclusions.

Was it in Kent by any chance?

https://www.kentonline.co.uk/kent/news/why-30k-has-been-spent-in-kent-on-driving-lessons-for-asylu-321435/

The pensions thing was people that had more than enough like the likes of Sir Alan Sugar.

The country was split in half for the last decade or two - as Brexit showed

when the left are in power the right shout louder

This comparison makes zero sense, does it? Yes, you’re correct, politician's don’t always stick to the pledges in their manifesto but if they put actual negative, damaging policies in it, they’re telling you who they are, why would you think they wouldn’t stick to them?

They’re not going to say, for example, we’re going to leave the ECHR and then get in and NOT do that, are they? They’re not going to go against it and make life all sunshine and rainbows instead. Some of the policies do sound reasonable until you think a bit deeper about it.

’When someone tells you who they are, believe them the first time’ applies here.

According to the link, the children are not asylum seekers. They are looked after in the care system as they successfully claimed asylum.

I'm saying that Liebour's policies weren't worth the paper they were written on. So it doesn't really matter what they say their policies are; these are just vote winners. Once they get into office, everything changes.
There's no telling whether Reform will do the same - but I honestly believe they can't be any worse!

I am on the right side of politics, I would have attended the march on Saturday if I could, however, people who think voting reform will solve any issues are, to be frank, deluded.

How about this one - https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/motoring/motoring-news/driving-lessons-refugees-cost-uk-31207052

So who is going to pay for cars for them? UK taxpayers?

That's just a different article about the exact same scheme in Kent. It's not driving lessons for asylum seekers, it's driving lessons for kids in the care system, some of whom are asylum seekers.

I didn’t suggest these shouldn’t have been highlighted. Those are your words, not mine. I said foreign interests have inflated issues that already exist as they are aware they are pressure points. That is quite different.

So why is that bad? There was an issue, more people became aware of it, ordinary people were able to crowdfund for cases like Forstater's which means we all have more protections, governments finally took notice and took steps like commissioning the Cass report. These all seem like wins. Pesky Russians.

NO - TRUTH!

Are you seriously taking your info from shit papers? Start doing proper research before you believe everything you've u read, if you read the daily star every week we are going to die because we are going to get hit by an asteroid! Or the Daily Fail which prints loads of shit because it gets them clicks!

Of course they can especially when they dont even know their own policies.

Breaking news: misrepresentations of the truth, lies to fight political battles have been eroding our democracy for years. The Media, on the whole, has become the putrid face of this kind of politics and the public make up "their own minds" based upon this information.

So that goes to show given the amount of Tories that have defected to Reform it is just another Tory party in disguise.