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Charlie Kirk- and the reality

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Tandora · 13/09/2025 20:14

So here we are- they have a suspect.
The very little we know about his politics suggests he was likely to be right wing, and came from a family/ culture that supported Trump. He also is said to be an introvert, in to video games , and possibly quite mentally unwell.

So there we have it- fancy that - when you live in a context where people have access to guns and some minority of people are not well, people get shot.

Nothing to do with the evils of the “left”. Nothing to do with trans people or “trans ideology”. Just senseless violence, because people who are not well have access to guns.

So what are we going to take/ learn from this?

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 14/09/2025 17:31

placemats · 14/09/2025 17:28

Except neither her or their children were in the audience.

If I'd lost the love of my life to a horrific assassination, I would be inconsolable and unable to speak. But I do understand that other people react differently.

They do, yes. I expect she’s seen the footage, it’s everywhere. She might be really fucking angry in her grief, that she has been robbed of the man she loves and her children’s father by some shitty little Beavis and Butthead character it seems.

placemats · 14/09/2025 17:33

YouveGotNoBloodyIdea · 14/09/2025 16:57

Latest update from The governor of Utah. Confirmed that the suspects ideology is left wing. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/utah-governor-shares-details-charlie-kirk-assassination-investigation-rcna231022

Has Tyler Robinson been formally charged?

What is his plea to that charge?

Invoking the 5th amendment means the right to remain silent.

EasternStandard · 14/09/2025 17:34

YourLemonTiger · 14/09/2025 17:16

I feel vindicated.
This morning I quoted The Sunday Times re: the suspect being in a relationship with his trans housemate and some posters practically accused me of making it up, being an idiot for believing what I read in The Times, it's all hear say etc etc

You'd think I'd imagined the whole scenario up and not read it in a newspaper.

It doesn't matter to me one way or the other but I hope the posters who criticised me so much this morning can now accept it is actually true.

It’s interesting as this thread has run over the course of the information being released. The earlier reaction included.

placemats · 14/09/2025 17:34

Ereshkigalangcleg · 14/09/2025 17:31

They do, yes. I expect she’s seen the footage, it’s everywhere. She might be really fucking angry in her grief, that she has been robbed of the man she loves and her children’s father by some shitty little Beavis and Butthead character it seems.

How do you know she loved him?

GoldThumb · 14/09/2025 17:36

Tandora · 14/09/2025 17:31

Read my posts I already answered that.

I have just read your posts on this thread.

I can’t see a single one which states why mentioning innocence is relevant to his murder, and what makes someone innocent or not innocent.

What’s the moral code for this decision, and who decides it?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 14/09/2025 17:36

Some of these people are going to cling to their made up narrative regardless, @YourLemonTiger- they don’t matter. Best ignored. They’re wrong.

YourLemonTiger · 14/09/2025 17:36

placemats · 14/09/2025 17:28

Except neither her or their children were in the audience.

If I'd lost the love of my life to a horrific assassination, I would be inconsolable and unable to speak. But I do understand that other people react differently.

The BBC reported that they were a few days ago when it happened.
Tbh honest that hardly makes it much better for his widow dies it. It's still tragic for her and the children.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 14/09/2025 17:36

placemats · 14/09/2025 17:34

How do you know she loved him?

Are you serious? I assume she did, she seems rather sad about it all 🙄

meeleymanatee · 14/09/2025 17:37

placemats · 14/09/2025 17:34

How do you know she loved him?

What a weird question. Try looking on her instagram

GoldThumb · 14/09/2025 17:37

placemats · 14/09/2025 17:34

How do you know she loved him?

What?!?

YourLemonTiger · 14/09/2025 17:37

placemats · 14/09/2025 17:34

How do you know she loved him?

As my daughter would say, that's a new low.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 14/09/2025 17:38

Right wing women are probably incapable of love I guess @meeleymanatee or something. Just like I’m not able to comprehend that gay men exist because I don’t believe a man is a woman just because he calls himself Luna and pops on a skirt.

placemats · 14/09/2025 17:38

GoldThumb · 14/09/2025 17:37

What?!?

It's a presumption not a fact.

placemats · 14/09/2025 17:39

Ereshkigalangcleg · 14/09/2025 17:38

Right wing women are probably incapable of love I guess @meeleymanatee or something. Just like I’m not able to comprehend that gay men exist because I don’t believe a man is a woman just because he calls himself Luna and pops on a skirt.

Edited

Luna didn't assassinate Kirk.

GoldThumb · 14/09/2025 17:40

placemats · 14/09/2025 17:38

It's a presumption not a fact.

I mean, of all the presumptions to pick up on this thread, you’ve chose that a woman loves her husband is the one worthy of questioning?

So weird

Ereshkigalangcleg · 14/09/2025 17:41

Interesting that you know who Luna is though, I thought you didn’t accept that evidence?

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 14/09/2025 17:42

smallpinecone · 14/09/2025 10:39

Precisely because you insist they represent a ‘danger’ - they don’t. He was a man with opinions. If you don’t agree, ignore him. What’s so dangerous?

Because she is left wing and anything else is drummed into them that it is dangerous.

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 14/09/2025 17:42

Tandora · 14/09/2025 17:16

I found her speech extremely disturbing and extremely inflammatory and her language was evocative of violence.
Also her whole manner was so performative and dystopian- it was like watching something out of the hunger games:

Those ideas they are promoting in school campuses aren’t innocent or harmless either!! Why is everyone pretending they are?! I’m flabbergasted.

You’re constantly flabbergasted. Your jaw must swing open like an open door every time someone says what day it is or the fact that we’re in the month of September.

Any further thoughts in the political leanings of the alleged shooter?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 14/09/2025 17:42

GoldThumb · 14/09/2025 17:40

I mean, of all the presumptions to pick up on this thread, you’ve chose that a woman loves her husband is the one worthy of questioning?

So weird

Rather than say the presumption of many including the esteemed OP that this was “right wing” when there was literally zero evidence of this, for instance. Weird.

placemats · 14/09/2025 17:43

GoldThumb · 14/09/2025 17:40

I mean, of all the presumptions to pick up on this thread, you’ve chose that a woman loves her husband is the one worthy of questioning?

So weird

In the words of Charlie Kirk "Prove me wrong".

EasternStandard · 14/09/2025 17:43

GoldThumb · 14/09/2025 17:40

I mean, of all the presumptions to pick up on this thread, you’ve chose that a woman loves her husband is the one worthy of questioning?

So weird

Bizarre

placemats · 14/09/2025 17:45

EasternStandard · 14/09/2025 17:43

Bizarre

Prove me wrong.

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 14/09/2025 17:45

Ereshkigalangcleg · 14/09/2025 17:42

Rather than say the presumption of many including the esteemed OP that this was “right wing” when there was literally zero evidence of this, for instance. Weird.

They have to claim ‘right wing’ as it HAS to be someone who has different allegiances than themselves. Also he had the temerity to be white and related to whispers Republicans!!!! Everyone is flabbergasted and bewildered of course.

EasternStandard · 14/09/2025 17:45

placemats · 14/09/2025 17:45

Prove me wrong.

Too odd. Why go there?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 14/09/2025 17:46

Are you trying to fill up the thread with increasingly odd posts place? You’ve got a way to go yet.

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