Am I considered far right now?

[Septemberisaweirdmonth]

Years ago I would have described myself as liberal and on the left. Over recent years the things I seem to agree with seem to be considered to be on the right and even far right

Examples:

I see nothing wrong with wanting to retain British culture or the innate culture of any country and see nothing wrong with a country being proud of its flag..as many are-Spain, Usa, Portugal etc etc

Whilst I have no issue with anyone being transgender, I do not believe transgender males should play in female sports, be in female toilets, prisons etc and I don’t believe children should be given drugs to alter their gender.

I think immigration in Europe needs to be controlled.,and quickly

I would be put off a man and likely wouldn’t see him again if he asked to split the bill on a first date. I can pay the bill four times over, but that’s not the point.

I am educated to post degree status and worked full time in my career for many years until I had my dc, I then wanted to and was thankfully able to stay at home. I see nothing wrong with the man going out to work, the mum staying home, taking care of the kids and the house-if that suits everyone and they’re happy doing that. My ideal scenario now would be a nice community, homeschooling and raising kids.

I am not anti abortion completely but my stance leans more towards this angle (I don’t tell anyone this though)

I regularly watched Charlie kirk, whilst I didn’t agree with everything and i’m not hugely religious, I agreed with a lot of his points and found he made his points respectfully. I also regularly watch Piers morgan uncensored

I didn’t agree with the almost forcing of people to have the covid injection

I quite like Trump

I feel embarrassed writing all this down as I feel I can’t really say this in real life

Have I become far right?

I don't think labelling people like this is proving constructive.

@Septemberisaweirdmonth I'd not have much time for someone who quite likes Trump, and I don't see, however you explained it, what splitting the bill has to do with "far right".

They stopped talking to me during uni.

I think you are right leaning, but to me far right isnt just more extreme rightness o

But also not working within our existing democratic process, but subverting them, using violence even.

I don't know about Far Right, but it sounds far out.

What do you agree with Charlie Kirk about? That will be the most revealing. Be honest.

I think you've missed the point. Reform (well it's previous incarnation) is responsible for the increase in small boat crossings. It's not labour, it's not the conservatives - it's Nige and his pals.

It's like Trump - create a problem and then try and sort it out to make yourself look good.

The small boats aren't the problem. It's what happens afterwards which is the problem. That's not going to be solved overnight. You have been conditioned to believe that immigration is the cause of all of societies ills whereas, in my opinion, capitalism plays a much greater role. That and our aging population.

Reform will throw all their cash at immigration. It won't really solve anything but it will take away that cash from our public services. Who needs healthcare and education anyway?!

Why is there no such thing as far left? There obviously is, but the same language to describe that side is not used.

If all that makes someone 'far right', then I'm far right too.

I was identifying with you until I got to the bit about the first date, and it got much worse after that. I don’t think someone disapproving of abortion and admiring Trump could ever have been properly described as "liberal" or "on the left".

I agree that there are more shades of grey than some people think. However, most people I know seem to be caught up in this narrative. Maybe it’s just the social circles I have been in.

I don't really know how to respond to this.

The idea that you might minimize what Hitler did because the far left were worse!

I agree Kirk DID sometimes speak respectfully.

I don't think it's v respectful to say that women on the Pill are automatically 'crazy and bitter' though,

or that women over 30 are automatically 'past their prime of attractiveness'

or that Michelle Obama, Sheila Jackson Lee & Ketanji Brown Jackson 'don't have brain power to have got where they are' and got there bc of favouritism of black people.

Or that being gay is like being a drug addict or alcoholic.

Or that gay people are 'groomers who cannot reproduce so must recruit' (a direct quote from notorious homophobe of the 1970s Anita Bryant). Yes, maybe he just meant individual gay people rather than all of them, but he was very ambiguous.

Yes, you are officially far right. Welcome to the Nazi who deserves to die club - along with most of the rest of the population who aren't allowed to speak.

I share every single one of your viewpoints OP. I think the term far-right is over used, and often used by those on the left as ammunition against those who don’t share exactly the same political viewpoints as them.

You like some of the things he is doing for USA and beyond!

Def no rich husband 😂
Lucky to be made redundant after my Dd was born after years of working, so some money to fall back on, then cut right back on everything-clothes, hairdressers, extra bits for me..local camping holidays just as lovely as fancy trips abroad, normal car. I actually work from home part time now when Dc asleep

That maybe true, but there are lots here on Mumsnet who have been anti trans who do feel like the OP. That would perhaps be more relevant for a different thread.

Oh just own it. You like what you like—specifically you applaud policies that you see will advantage you (white, female, secure citizenship in your own country, heterosexual) and which disadvantage other people you don’t care about or who you for some reason think don’t deserve the rights and respect you do. That’s immigrants, pregnant women, people who judge you, etc…

You liked Charlie Kirk because he said virulently racist, sexist, and even exhorted targeted violence against other religions/minorities/demicrats/liberals/educated women in a calm tone. The african american people he asserted were stupid, the trans and gay people he said were cursed, the school children whose deaths from gun violence he said were just the price of doing business? That all happened off stage to you so you think it was just somehow ok.

Own it: you prefer a politics of exclusion and will tolerate both rhetoric and ultimately physical violence until it disadvantages you. Then who will you ask for help?

Women's rights aren't anti trans. Neither is the protection of children.

Of course you’re not far right and probably your thoughts align to the majority of the European population.

On social media you probably feel more right of centre than you are because many of the thoughts that circulate on “mainstream” social media and are sold as being centre are actually fairly far left.

Anyone applying critical thinking is very likely to come to views similar to yours.

What kind of self hating woman likes Trump?

Or to suggest that life was better when black people were more or less enslaved.

Certainly leaning more towards right than left at least. Out of your 9 points there's 3 points I agree with you on (I agree that immigration needs controlling, As much as I'm not a fan of anti vaxxers I don't believe anybody should be forced to have vaccines they do not want just like anything else medical and agree that cultures should be preserved and celebrated but also think there needs to be more tolerance for other cultures), 2 I partially agree with you on (I agree children shouldn't be given gender altering drugs, it's an adult decision that should be made when they are an adult rest of your statement I disagree with, I also see nothing wrong with man going out to work and woman staying at home or vice versa as long as they both agree but would also add that I only agree if neither partner will weaponise this arrangement in any way during or after the relationship). The other 4 statements I wholeheartedly disagree with you on.

You like trump? The same trump who said if his daughter wasn’t his daughter he’d be dating her?

You indulged in Charlie Kirk? The same man who said if his ten year old daughter was assaulted and got pregnant he would rather force her through a live birth than let her take a tablet.

OP, I respect your right to your own views but wow.

Do you, or will you look after your parents and in laws too?

Donald Trump is very likely a pedophile, and is certainly a serial abuser of women.

He (aided by that gobshite, Kirk) tried to overthrow democracy - and I'd be very unsurprised if that persists.

He ignores the rule of law, going so far as to breach court orders to deport someone (never convinced of any crime) to El Salvador to be tortured.

The US economy is taking a downturn, he has achieved diddly-squat in terms of peace.

If you are lucky enough to exist outside of the US media bubble, and still quite like him... I don't have the words.