Page 10 | Am I considered far right now?

Slowdownyouredoingfine · 13/09/2025 17:28

No you’re normal, but that’s labelled as far right now apparently.

MyHeartyCoralSnail · 13/09/2025 17:28

pikkumyy77 · 13/09/2025 17:25

Oh just own it. You like what you like—specifically you applaud policies that you see will advantage you (white, female, secure citizenship in your own country, heterosexual) and which disadvantage other people you don’t care about or who you for some reason think don’t deserve the rights and respect you do. That’s immigrants, pregnant women, people who judge you, etc…

You liked Charlie Kirk because he said virulently racist, sexist, and even exhorted targeted violence against other religions/minorities/demicrats/liberals/educated women in a calm tone. The african american people he asserted were stupid, the trans and gay people he said were cursed, the school children whose deaths from gun violence he said were just the price of doing business? That all happened off stage to you so you think it was just somehow ok.

Own it: you prefer a politics of exclusion and will tolerate both rhetoric and ultimately physical violence until it disadvantages you. Then who will you ask for help?

Edited

Presumably if you have your own home you don’t allow anyone who wants to walk through the door. How many asylum seekers or homeless people do you have living with you, or are you taking advantage of your privileged position?

Lunalara · 13/09/2025 17:28

pikkumyy77 · 13/09/2025 17:25

Oh just own it. You like what you like—specifically you applaud policies that you see will advantage you (white, female, secure citizenship in your own country, heterosexual) and which disadvantage other people you don’t care about or who you for some reason think don’t deserve the rights and respect you do. That’s immigrants, pregnant women, people who judge you, etc…

You liked Charlie Kirk because he said virulently racist, sexist, and even exhorted targeted violence against other religions/minorities/demicrats/liberals/educated women in a calm tone. The african american people he asserted were stupid, the trans and gay people he said were cursed, the school children whose deaths from gun violence he said were just the price of doing business? That all happened off stage to you so you think it was just somehow ok.

Own it: you prefer a politics of exclusion and will tolerate both rhetoric and ultimately physical violence until it disadvantages you. Then who will you ask for help?

Edited

There are a lot of overgeneralisations here on this post. First how not wanting him dead is the same as agreeing with everything he said. Even if the OP agrees with some of it, it doesn’t mean that the OP likes the entire narrative that Kirk gave.

nopalfruit · 13/09/2025 17:30

“i quite like trump am i far right?” are you stupid?

WishinAndHopin · 13/09/2025 17:30

pikkumyy77 · 13/09/2025 17:25

Oh just own it. You like what you like—specifically you applaud policies that you see will advantage you (white, female, secure citizenship in your own country, heterosexual) and which disadvantage other people you don’t care about or who you for some reason think don’t deserve the rights and respect you do. That’s immigrants, pregnant women, people who judge you, etc…

You liked Charlie Kirk because he said virulently racist, sexist, and even exhorted targeted violence against other religions/minorities/demicrats/liberals/educated women in a calm tone. The african american people he asserted were stupid, the trans and gay people he said were cursed, the school children whose deaths from gun violence he said were just the price of doing business? That all happened off stage to you so you think it was just somehow ok.

Own it: you prefer a politics of exclusion and will tolerate both rhetoric and ultimately physical violence until it disadvantages you. Then who will you ask for help?

Edited

That is not what Charlie Kirk said at all, about any of it.

I'm tired of people slandering him when he's not even alive to speak up for himself.

95% of his critics hadn't even heard of him until he was slaughtered, and now you're twisting out of context, paraphrased quotes beyond all recognition, like Chinese whispers.

MyLimeGuide · 13/09/2025 17:31

TinyIsMyNewt · 13/09/2025 17:28

Donald Trump is very likely a pedophile, and is certainly a serial abuser of women.

He (aided by that gobshite, Kirk) tried to overthrow democracy - and I'd be very unsurprised if that persists.

He ignores the rule of law, going so far as to breach court orders to deport someone (never convinced of any crime) to El Salvador to be tortured.

The US economy is taking a downturn, he has achieved diddly-squat in terms of peace.

If you are lucky enough to exist outside of the US media bubble, and still quite like him... I don't have the words.

You sound a bit jealous?

Thumbelina9 · 13/09/2025 17:31

@Newsenmum two questions, if I may.

What do you like about Trump?

Could you elaborate more on your abortion stance please? I find women being anti-abortion interesting because I don’t think it’s hard to imagine the circumstances where it’s better for the woman.

I think it’s up to women to choose for themselves. No one is forced to have one - it’s good to have the option. There’s many reasons why women might feel they can’t have a child. Do you think it’s ever justified, or never justified? Do you feel they should have tried harder with contraception?

I know this isn’t AMA so no need to reply. Just interested in your point of view.

Rocket1982 · 13/09/2025 17:31

Can you please answer the question of what you quite like about Trump?

Nestingbirds · 13/09/2025 17:31

On here, you will be told you are far far far right and should be ‘reeducated’ and shamed and silenced until you repent.

Back in the real world, you are considered a pragmatic and intelligent middle class conservative voter. Someone that is courageous enough to stand by your own principles, even in the face of the relentless barrage of name calling witnessed on here.

I would imagine you represent a very large, quiet majority in these current times ( If the polls are anything to go by).

Original poster

Septemberisaweirdmonth · 13/09/2025 17:32

Kelticgold · 13/09/2025 17:28

Do you, or will you look after your parents and in laws too?

Relevance?

Of course I will look after them…

OP posts:

TinyIsMyNewt · 13/09/2025 17:32

This reply has been deleted

Message deleted by MNHQ. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.

Pinepeak2434 · 13/09/2025 17:32

Ilfurfante · 13/09/2025 17:21

I think you've missed the point. Reform (well it's previous incarnation) is responsible for the increase in small boat crossings. It's not labour, it's not the conservatives - it's Nige and his pals.

It's like Trump - create a problem and then try and sort it out to make yourself look good.

The small boats aren't the problem. It's what happens afterwards which is the problem. That's not going to be solved overnight. You have been conditioned to believe that immigration is the cause of all of societies ills whereas, in my opinion, capitalism plays a much greater role. That and our aging population.

Reform will throw all their cash at immigration. It won't really solve anything but it will take away that cash from our public services. Who needs healthcare and education anyway?!

Show quote history

You keep telling me I’ve been “played” or “conditioned,” but that’s a way of dismissing genuine concerns. Illegal immigration isn’t something Nigel Farage invented, it’s happening now, on our borders, and communities see the strain on housing, healthcare and schools. Yes, we also face challenges from an ageing population and from economic pressures, but that doesn’t erase the reality of uncontrolled immigration . It’s not either/or, we need to be able to manage both.
And while you say the real issue is “what happens afterwards,” the fact remains that if borders aren’t secure in the first place, the system is overwhelmed and public trust collapses. Other parties have had decades to get this right and haven’t. That’s why at the moment I’m looking at Reform: not because I think they’re perfect, but because they’re the only ones willing to confront the issue head-on.

Lunalara · 13/09/2025 17:32

To give a more nuanced answer than the one I mentioned earlier, most people don’t align completely with one ideology. For instance, many people are pro gay marriage, but feel uncomfortable with biological males in female spaces. Increasingly, there is a narrative on social media that you are not a good person if you don’t agree with the latter, even if you agree with the former. What this has lead to is what we have now. You are normal for having nuanced takes on different subjects, despite what anyone else has to say.

MyLimeGuide · 13/09/2025 17:32

This reply has been deleted

Message deleted by MNHQ. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.

😂😂😂

JLou08 · 13/09/2025 17:33

I consider myself firmly to the left. From what you have written I don't think you are far right. I don't think you sound like a bad person and I don't think there's anything wrong with your views. I'm quite surprised at some of the comments saying you're far right. Maybe they've read between the lines and see something I don't but what you have written is not far right. There's obviously more to being left/right than what you have written, your post just seems to be a list of what's most controversial on MN right now. What are your views on the welfare state? NHS? Military? Education?

Lunalara · 13/09/2025 17:33

Nestingbirds · 13/09/2025 17:31

On here, you will be told you are far far far right and should be ‘reeducated’ and shamed and silenced until you repent.

Back in the real world, you are considered a pragmatic and intelligent middle class conservative voter. Someone that is courageous enough to stand by your own principles, even in the face of the relentless barrage of name calling witnessed on here.

I would imagine you represent a very large, quiet majority in these current times ( If the polls are anything to go by).

Edited

Yup I agree with this.

Nestingbirds · 13/09/2025 17:34

I think I more or less match you in my outlook op, and many of my friends are the same. All highly educated professionals, and increasingly I am seeing my left wing friends despairing more than me - and I have been reassuring them!

Original poster

Septemberisaweirdmonth · 13/09/2025 17:35

Nestingbirds · 13/09/2025 17:31

On here, you will be told you are far far far right and should be ‘reeducated’ and shamed and silenced until you repent.

Back in the real world, you are considered a pragmatic and intelligent middle class conservative voter. Someone that is courageous enough to stand by your own principles, even in the face of the relentless barrage of name calling witnessed on here.

I would imagine you represent a very large, quiet majority in these current times ( If the polls are anything to go by).

Edited

This is what I think too..,and lots have been shamed to not be open about it

OP posts:

shuggles · 13/09/2025 17:35

@Septemberisaweirdmonth I see nothing wrong with wanting to retain British culture or the innate culture of any country and see nothing wrong with a country being proud of its flag..as many are-Spain, Usa, Portugal etc etc

Nationalism is right wing, by definition.

Whilst I have no issue with anyone being transgender, I do not believe transgender males should play in female sports, be in female toilets, prisons etc and I don’t believe children should be given drugs to alter their gender.

Fair enough, but this perspective goes hand-in-hand with traditionalism and conservatism rather than liberalism, so it would be considered right wing.

I think immigration in Europe needs to be controlled.,and quickly

Again, nationalism and anti-immigration are right wing, by definition.

I would be put off a man and likely wouldn’t see him again if he asked to split the bill on a first date. I can pay the bill four times over, but that’s not the point.

This is cultural traditionalism and conservatism, which again, is right wing.

I am educated to post degree status and worked full time in my career for many years until I had my dc, I then wanted to and was thankfully able to stay at home. I see nothing wrong with the man going out to work, the mum staying home, taking care of the kids and the house-if that suits everyone and they’re happy doing that. My ideal scenario now would be a nice community, homeschooling and raising kids.

Again, traditionalism and conservatism.

I didn’t agree with the almost forcing of people to have the covid injection

This one actually has nothing to do with being right wing. This perspective could be seen as being anti-authoritarian and wanting to protect people's individual freedoms, which can be left wing.

Have I become far right?

No.

You would either be centre-right or right based on your perspectives.

Far right is when you want to go so far as using violence, or the military, to protect your nation and culture.

By the way, if no one has linked to it already... this might help, OP.

https://www.politicalcompass.org/test/en?page=1

Anotheremptynester · 13/09/2025 17:35

No definitely normal in my book OP. Please start a political party so I have someone to vote for😁

( I think its called experience and wisdom)

Rallentanda · 13/09/2025 17:35

God this is all so boring. People throwing out labels all the time for sport.

If you spend any time watching pretty awful people and enjoying it, you're probably pretty awful, or at least too gullible to spot a grifter at work. That is now my benchmark for people. You think Jordan Petersen gets some things right? You've sat and watched enough of his stuff to form an opinion? I'm not going to like you or hold your views close enough for inspection.

(I chose him at random, not rtft and not picking on anyone. Never going to change any minds and do not care just wanted to express my massive yawn really.)

Ginmonkeyagain · 13/09/2025 17:36

You talk of wanting to retain British culture, why do you think British culture is under threat?

I live in a very multi cultural part of London, last week we had our annual fete in the park. It had a dog show, a coconut shy, a Punch and Judy booth, a tea and cake tent, a beer tent with locally brewed ales, a plant stall and a lady sellling home made jams.

Our pubs were riot of St George's flags in the recent Euros football competition. However I would say only flag waving at sport is very much in line with British culture, we find overt flag waving pretty cringemaking.

GAJLY · 13/09/2025 17:36

Septemberisaweirdmonth · 13/09/2025 16:12

Years ago I would have described myself as liberal and on the left. Over recent years the things I seem to agree with seem to be considered to be on the right and even far right

Examples:

I see nothing wrong with wanting to retain British culture or the innate culture of any country and see nothing wrong with a country being proud of its flag..as many are-Spain, Usa, Portugal etc etc

Whilst I have no issue with anyone being transgender, I do not believe transgender males should play in female sports, be in female toilets, prisons etc and I don’t believe children should be given drugs to alter their gender.

I think immigration in Europe needs to be controlled.,and quickly

I would be put off a man and likely wouldn’t see him again if he asked to split the bill on a first date. I can pay the bill four times over, but that’s not the point.

I am educated to post degree status and worked full time in my career for many years until I had my dc, I then wanted to and was thankfully able to stay at home. I see nothing wrong with the man going out to work, the mum staying home, taking care of the kids and the house-if that suits everyone and they’re happy doing that. My ideal scenario now would be a nice community, homeschooling and raising kids.

I am not anti abortion completely but my stance leans more towards this angle (I don’t tell anyone this though)

I regularly watched Charlie kirk, whilst I didn’t agree with everything and i’m not hugely religious, I agreed with a lot of his points and found he made his points respectfully. I also regularly watch Piers morgan uncensored

I didn’t agree with the almost forcing of people to have the covid injection

I quite like Trump

I feel embarrassed writing all this down as I feel I can’t really say this in real life

Have I become far right?

I'm of the same opinion as you.

PrizedPickledPopcorn · 13/09/2025 17:36

DiscoBob · 13/09/2025 17:17

Liking trump just makes you have a very poor judgement of character.

As for the others, definitely right wing. Maybe not far right. The stuff about wanting a man you've never met before to pay for your dinner. That just seems old fashioned and sexist.

Of course there's nothing wrong with not needing to work because your husband will fund your life. But many people are not in that type of position, not would they necessarily want to be.

I don't see why you need to talk about being an SAHM as some sort of political stance. You've just got a rich husband.

Bollox to that. He is only rich in having a wife. She allows him to work without paying childcare.

UserUserUser12 · 13/09/2025 17:36

MyLimeGuide · 13/09/2025 17:13

Trump is doing some good peace negotiations, cracking down on illegal immigration and he is getting rid of wokeness. There is said it! (Im not saying he is a good/nice person btw)

Good peace negotiations? Care to share?

Cracking down on illegal immigration? No. He’s taking people off the streets and directly from their immigration appointments. Do you understand the processes in the US to become a permanent resident?

That it can take years and that people who are lawfully following the process have been forcibly separated from their children and thrown into detention centres with no due process? Are you aware that immigrants are being taken that have social security numbers and pay tax? Do you actually understand any of the finer and incredibly complex points of US immigration or are you just spouting Daily Mail shit?