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Am I considered far right now?

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Septemberisaweirdmonth · 13/09/2025 16:12

Years ago I would have described myself as liberal and on the left. Over recent years the things I seem to agree with seem to be considered to be on the right and even far right

Examples:

I see nothing wrong with wanting to retain British culture or the innate culture of any country and see nothing wrong with a country being proud of its flag..as many are-Spain, Usa, Portugal etc etc

Whilst I have no issue with anyone being transgender, I do not believe transgender males should play in female sports, be in female toilets, prisons etc and I don’t believe children should be given drugs to alter their gender.

I think immigration in Europe needs to be controlled.,and quickly

I would be put off a man and likely wouldn’t see him again if he asked to split the bill on a first date. I can pay the bill four times over, but that’s not the point.

I am educated to post degree status and worked full time in my career for many years until I had my dc, I then wanted to and was thankfully able to stay at home. I see nothing wrong with the man going out to work, the mum staying home, taking care of the kids and the house-if that suits everyone and they’re happy doing that. My ideal scenario now would be a nice community, homeschooling and raising kids.

I am not anti abortion completely but my stance leans more towards this angle (I don’t tell anyone this though)

I regularly watched Charlie kirk, whilst I didn’t agree with everything and i’m not hugely religious, I agreed with a lot of his points and found he made his points respectfully. I also regularly watch Piers morgan uncensored

I didn’t agree with the almost forcing of people to have the covid injection

I quite like Trump

I feel embarrassed writing all this down as I feel I can’t really say this in real life

Have I become far right?

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MyLimeGuide · 13/09/2025 17:13

Trump is doing some good peace negotiations, cracking down on illegal immigration and he is getting rid of wokeness. There is said it! (Im not saying he is a good/nice person btw)

Lunalara · 13/09/2025 17:13

Peculiah · 13/09/2025 16:34

My biggest issue with what you’ve said is that you don’t seem to feel able to express these views irl.

We need to talk, debate and discuss. It’s good to listen to a wide range of views, but just listening isn’t enough. Some speakers are compelling, but when you try and repeat or summarise what you’ve heard, you have to really think, evaluate and process. And if you are being challenged by someone who hasn’t heard the slick version, it’s even more thought provoking.

It’s ok to have thoughts, doubts, questions, concerns, and it’s human to have prejudices, and knee jerk emotional reactions. We don’t all see the world the same way or have the same experiences, but it’s so, so important that we just talk with each other. But yeah, I know why it feels risky to do so. That’s even more reason to try.

Political/social/ideological views need daylight.

Sadly I think it’s getting too late for that 😔 If there is one thing that I hope to come from Kirk’s assassination, it’s that we are more respectful towards one another due to the path it can lead us down. Unfortunately, it seems to be the opposite. Not all liberals are celebrating his death, but strangely so many that I know in real life think it was justified.

When I was at uni, I had friends who cancelled me for saying that it was wrong to mock Pope Francis (I am Catholic). My boyfriend who is liberal was in the room, and said that I was never once mean to them. That didn’t stop them from shouting at me and threatening me.

UserUserUser12 · 13/09/2025 17:14

Notmycircusnotmyotter · 13/09/2025 17:09

We share the exact same views (minus Charlie Kirk - I wasn't aware of him until this week).

We're all far right now.

You are if you agree with ‘quite liking Trump.’

Carrieonregardless · 13/09/2025 17:14

I wouldn’t say far right but definitely not liberal.
I’d say you’re a staunch conservative from your views.

5128gap · 13/09/2025 17:14

GoldMerchant · 13/09/2025 17:02

No, historically people believed that people in favour of state ownership of industry and a large welfare state voted left and people in favour of a small state and a free market voted right. It's only from the 1970s onwards that this divide really became tangled with social issues (eg conservatives against feminism, for "family values").

Of course there are "not nice" people with a variety of political views.

Historically the right believed in maintaining the status quo, whereas the left wanted to bring about change.
This was linked heavily with how the economy was managed and with ownership of property/means of production because the change the left originally sort to bring about was to address wealth/class inequality, while the right wanted to keep things the way they were, either because they were the wealthy, or they had internalised the idea of the god given estate. Which I suppose its pretty much where we are now, in terms of tradition versus progression. Only the progression sort by the contemporary left has veered away from the class/wealth based issue and embraced all sorts of new ideas. Many of which the tradional left wing person (thinking of my coal miner grandad here) would think were self indulgent luxury causes based in individualism rather than for the greater good.

tinytemper66 · 13/09/2025 17:14

What is British culture these days?

LifeIsTooFlippingShort · 13/09/2025 17:14

"I quite like Trump". Can't take you seriously after that.

YourAmplePlumPoster · 13/09/2025 17:14

EarthlyNightshade · 13/09/2025 17:01

I think the actual far left are just as problematic as the far right. East bloc communism is an example of the awfulness of the far left. Try also Mao or Castro, Lenin/Stalin.

However, not "quite liking" sex offender Trump and being open to (some) immigration does not make a person far left, despite this becoming a very popular view on mumsnet over the last few months.

Mao, Castro, Lenin and Stalin killed more people than Hitler or Mussolini.

Pinepeak2434 · 13/09/2025 17:14

HPFA · 13/09/2025 17:12

"Fiscal responsibility"

Given Farage wanted a Brexit that has cost the country billions, has plans for massive tax cuts with no clue as to how to pay for them, and is planning to spend billions on mass deportations I'd say the last thing you"ll get from him is sound finances.

Farage has no interest in solving real problems. Wheres his solution to cleaning up rivers, social care, school buildings? Has he ever expressed any interest in these things?

Every party promises fiscal responsibility, but both Conservatives and Labour have overseen spiralling debt, higher taxes, and crumbling services. Reform may not have all the answers, but at least they’re willing to challenge the status quo and confront issues others dodge, like uncontrolled immigration. As for wider policies, I’d argue no party has delivered on rivers, schools, or social care, so pointing at Reform alone is hardly convincing.

Lunalara · 13/09/2025 17:15

To answer your question OP, I don’t think your views are extreme. However, with polarisation happening, it feels like you have to pick whichever side you are closest too, even if you disagree.

DiscoBob · 13/09/2025 17:17

Liking trump just makes you have a very poor judgement of character.

As for the others, definitely right wing. Maybe not far right. The stuff about wanting a man you've never met before to pay for your dinner. That just seems old fashioned and sexist.

Of course there's nothing wrong with not needing to work because your husband will fund your life. But many people are not in that type of position, not would they necessarily want to be.

I don't see why you need to talk about being an SAHM as some sort of political stance. You've just got a rich husband.

UserUserUser12 · 13/09/2025 17:17

Lunalara · 13/09/2025 17:13

Sadly I think it’s getting too late for that 😔 If there is one thing that I hope to come from Kirk’s assassination, it’s that we are more respectful towards one another due to the path it can lead us down. Unfortunately, it seems to be the opposite. Not all liberals are celebrating his death, but strangely so many that I know in real life think it was justified.

When I was at uni, I had friends who cancelled me for saying that it was wrong to mock Pope Francis (I am Catholic). My boyfriend who is liberal was in the room, and said that I was never once mean to them. That didn’t stop them from shouting at me and threatening me.

I’m certainly not celebrating his death. When I lived in the US I went on anti-gun marches and campaigned and voted accordingly. Most left leaning people I knew did. Democrats have consistently campaigned for greater gun control. They have been consistently thwarted by the right, and Kirk himself. Give me a break placing any of this on the side of the left. Fuck me, the brainwashing is immense.

ThatCyanCat · 13/09/2025 17:18

5128gap · 13/09/2025 17:14

Historically the right believed in maintaining the status quo, whereas the left wanted to bring about change.
This was linked heavily with how the economy was managed and with ownership of property/means of production because the change the left originally sort to bring about was to address wealth/class inequality, while the right wanted to keep things the way they were, either because they were the wealthy, or they had internalised the idea of the god given estate. Which I suppose its pretty much where we are now, in terms of tradition versus progression. Only the progression sort by the contemporary left has veered away from the class/wealth based issue and embraced all sorts of new ideas. Many of which the tradional left wing person (thinking of my coal miner grandad here) would think were self indulgent luxury causes based in individualism rather than for the greater good.

self indulgent luxury causes based in individualism rather than for the greater good.

People often confuse liberalism with being left wing

miserableandworried · 13/09/2025 17:18

Well I must be too, because I think the same apart from the abortion stance. I believe in as soon as possible, pre 12 weeks for non medical reasons.

Septemberisaweirdmonth · 13/09/2025 17:18

MyLimeGuide · 13/09/2025 17:13

Trump is doing some good peace negotiations, cracking down on illegal immigration and he is getting rid of wokeness. There is said it! (Im not saying he is a good/nice person btw)

Yes is this, also not saying he’s a nice person

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Account734 · 13/09/2025 17:18

KhakiTiger · 13/09/2025 16:29

You’re not far right, OP. The but the far left will tell you that you are. Which is always a good way of identifying far left people so you can stay away from them and keep yourself safe.

I agree with this. Parts of the left have become extreme and make people who were more in the centre seem much further to the right.

There's a great meme on this.
https://www.reddit.com/r/TheMajorityReport/comments/ueosni/elon_musk_shares_the_left_left_me_meme_and_gets_a/#lightbox

ThatCyanCat · 13/09/2025 17:19

DiscoBob · 13/09/2025 17:17

Liking trump just makes you have a very poor judgement of character.

As for the others, definitely right wing. Maybe not far right. The stuff about wanting a man you've never met before to pay for your dinner. That just seems old fashioned and sexist.

Of course there's nothing wrong with not needing to work because your husband will fund your life. But many people are not in that type of position, not would they necessarily want to be.

I don't see why you need to talk about being an SAHM as some sort of political stance. You've just got a rich husband.

As for the others, definitely right wing. Maybe not far right. The stuff about wanting a man you've never met before to pay for your dinner. That just seems old fashioned and sexist.

Is it political, though?

tipsyraven · 13/09/2025 17:19

BloominNora · 13/09/2025 16:57

This is what I mean by slipping further right.

No-one on the left has threatened to lock up their political opponents or remove the citizenship of people they don't like (See Trump triggering investigations in various Democrats, "Lock Her Up" and his threats to Rosie O'Donnell).

The left do not have the social media presence and right wing advocacy presence that the right have - there is no one individual on the left who is comparable in terms of reach and influence as Charlie Kirk.

The left do not have their own dedicated TV channel and in this country there is are two left leaning mainstream papers compared with five right wing papers.

The left are not responsible for over 80% of political related killings.

So given the right have total control of all levers of government in the US and a pretty strong hold in the UK, have a significantly more media and social media control AND are more likely to commit violence against those they disagree with, how can you justify the view that it is the left that flatten anyone else's viewpoint and make people scared to say what they feel?

Well said.

Lunalara · 13/09/2025 17:19

UserUserUser12 · 13/09/2025 17:17

I’m certainly not celebrating his death. When I lived in the US I went on anti-gun marches and campaigned and voted accordingly. Most left leaning people I knew did. Democrats have consistently campaigned for greater gun control. They have been consistently thwarted by the right, and Kirk himself. Give me a break placing any of this on the side of the left. Fuck me, the brainwashing is immense.

I said very clearly that not everyone is celebrating his death. Mumsnet seems to be much more reasonable in general than most other places re this topic. My boyfriend, his friend, and loads of others than I knew from uni are saying that it is fair game to kill people who are on the right.

MorningLarkEchoes · 13/09/2025 17:19

Pleasegodgotosleep · 13/09/2025 16:13

Yes

😂

CelestialFilly · 13/09/2025 17:19

Getting rid of WOKE: being able to touch women's tits at work again.
Being able to write racial slurs on the side of people's houses again.

So many of these statements are immature and spiteful. They are said to illicit a response, a reaction.

Do we want a culture devoid of critical thought, self awareness and education? Many seem to be eager to return to a pitchfork based system riddled with folk myth and superstition - until their child receives a cancer diagnosis, then suddenly they want someone educated to effect a cure.

So glad we can calm down again;)

SerafinasGoose · 13/09/2025 17:20

Lunalara · 13/09/2025 17:15

To answer your question OP, I don’t think your views are extreme. However, with polarisation happening, it feels like you have to pick whichever side you are closest too, even if you disagree.

I just view that as extremely lazy, uncritical, ideological thinking. And 'thinking's' a stretch.

Which is why, whenever I hear someone utter the word 'align', I pay no attention to a single further word they have to say.

MyLimeGuide · 13/09/2025 17:20

Lunalara · 13/09/2025 17:13

Sadly I think it’s getting too late for that 😔 If there is one thing that I hope to come from Kirk’s assassination, it’s that we are more respectful towards one another due to the path it can lead us down. Unfortunately, it seems to be the opposite. Not all liberals are celebrating his death, but strangely so many that I know in real life think it was justified.

When I was at uni, I had friends who cancelled me for saying that it was wrong to mock Pope Francis (I am Catholic). My boyfriend who is liberal was in the room, and said that I was never once mean to them. That didn’t stop them from shouting at me and threatening me.

I take it you didn't stay in touch with your uni mates?!

Septemberisaweirdmonth · 13/09/2025 17:20

LifeIsTooFlippingShort · 13/09/2025 17:14

"I quite like Trump". Can't take you seriously after that.

Yes I didn’t put that the right way really

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thedramaQueen · 13/09/2025 17:21

Lunalara · 13/09/2025 17:15

To answer your question OP, I don’t think your views are extreme. However, with polarisation happening, it feels like you have to pick whichever side you are closest too, even if you disagree.

Agree and the way the media and some politicians weaponize the terms Left and Right is really unhelpful, divisive and in my opinion is inciting hate. No wonder we can't have sensible debates anymore. It really feels like dangerous sad times at the moment. We need to be discussing how we have more in common rather than shouting out radical left wing or radical right wing every time we disagree with someone.

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