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Am I considered far right now?

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Septemberisaweirdmonth · 13/09/2025 16:12

Years ago I would have described myself as liberal and on the left. Over recent years the things I seem to agree with seem to be considered to be on the right and even far right

Examples:

I see nothing wrong with wanting to retain British culture or the innate culture of any country and see nothing wrong with a country being proud of its flag..as many are-Spain, Usa, Portugal etc etc

Whilst I have no issue with anyone being transgender, I do not believe transgender males should play in female sports, be in female toilets, prisons etc and I don’t believe children should be given drugs to alter their gender.

I think immigration in Europe needs to be controlled.,and quickly

I would be put off a man and likely wouldn’t see him again if he asked to split the bill on a first date. I can pay the bill four times over, but that’s not the point.

I am educated to post degree status and worked full time in my career for many years until I had my dc, I then wanted to and was thankfully able to stay at home. I see nothing wrong with the man going out to work, the mum staying home, taking care of the kids and the house-if that suits everyone and they’re happy doing that. My ideal scenario now would be a nice community, homeschooling and raising kids.

I am not anti abortion completely but my stance leans more towards this angle (I don’t tell anyone this though)

I regularly watched Charlie kirk, whilst I didn’t agree with everything and i’m not hugely religious, I agreed with a lot of his points and found he made his points respectfully. I also regularly watch Piers morgan uncensored

I didn’t agree with the almost forcing of people to have the covid injection

I quite like Trump

I feel embarrassed writing all this down as I feel I can’t really say this in real life

Have I become far right?

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Newsenmum · 13/09/2025 16:49

Septemberisaweirdmonth · 13/09/2025 16:48

Definitely not a post like that and what makes me a not very nice person? There is nothing in what I think that makes me not nice, why? 😔

He’s said some really awful things.

PrizedPickledPopcorn · 13/09/2025 16:50

GeneralPeter · 13/09/2025 16:45

I'd say a populist authoritarian. He's not conservative (in my book) because: i) by temperament, he doesn't want to conserve things. He's impulsive and radical, and enjoys disrupting established orders, ii) by policy positions, he opposes too many things that conservatives traditionally value: rules-based order, free-market economics, traditional family values, a small state (most types of conservatism), and (for the US) international power projection through alliances and values. He doesn't want the US to be the leader of the free world. He wants the US to win by beating others where it can, and ignoring the rest.

Thank you. That makes such a lot of sense.

To be honest, I’ve never considered him to be part of a political party. He’s an amateur basically. A subversive, narcissistic, power and wealth snatcher.

There’s a real lack of people getting involved in politics on the ground floor. If people got involved in their local community councils, understood the limitations of governance and how checks and balances work, we’d be a more educated and effective community.

LeaderBee · 13/09/2025 16:50

There are online political compass tests that you can take to help determine where you sit, to me, you sound like a centrist, which, when arguments against the right or left come up, people always seem to forget exists.

I personally feel like i should be right aligned but i was quite surprised when the test results came back with just left of centre.

ElatedShark · 13/09/2025 16:50

fastingforweightloss · 13/09/2025 16:45

I agree with all your viewpoints Op, and I do consider myself far right.

Nothing wrong with that. I think most people when they get to middle age see things much clearer than they did when they were a do-gooding, be kind touting snow flake 18 year old.

All those wasted yrs though and only coming to your senses when you've a foot in the grave. Shame

DollyPinkDaydream · 13/09/2025 16:51

Septemberisaweirdmonth · 13/09/2025 16:45

It’s weird as I consider myself a v tolerant person

This is me - I am very much a live and let live person. However, I am increasingly tired of hearing that some of the perspectives I hold (as someone who has travelled and integrated and lived and worked on other continents as an economic migrant myself) are racist and bigoted or transphobic. Or that I’m ‘thick’ for holding them (FSM child who won a place in one of the most prestigious universities in the world despite not having any of the support structures in place that now exist for social migration). It’s tedious and I’ve stopped engaging, which I think in itself is very dangerous on a macro level if moderates like myself are shouted down and silenced…

PeanutButter55 · 13/09/2025 16:51

CantThinkOfAnotherUsernane · 13/09/2025 16:18

I think immigration needs to be controlled, that doesn’t make me a racist so I agree on that.
However I’m happy to pay my own way in the world and that includes on dates and I firmly believe abortion is a woman’s decision. I wouldn’t judge anyone for having an abortion so I don’t agree with you on that.
I wasn’t familiar with Charlie Kirk so I can’t comment on him but personally I can’t stand Trump

I agree with you. Mass unskilled immigration is a huge problem and things need to ge stopped. The UK’s immigration policy over the past 10/20 years has become one massive example to the rest of the world of what not to do. I have absolutely no issue with immigrants who are able to come, bring something to the table and integrate with society! I work in healthcare - we’d be lost without immigrants and many of them are some of my best colleagues.

PrizedPickledPopcorn · 13/09/2025 16:51

Newsenmum · 13/09/2025 16:49

He’s said some really awful things.

What has he said and how do you know?

He has been accused of saying a lot.

UserUserUser12 · 13/09/2025 16:51

You started off reasonably and then leaned more to the right as your list continued. By ‘I quite like Trump’ you fell clean off the edge of the right-hand side. Personally, I’m not into convicted felons and sexual offenders. I could list the other 50 reasons he’s an evil piece of shit but I’m tired and you’re too far gone.

Septemberisaweirdmonth · 13/09/2025 16:52

5128gap · 13/09/2025 16:41

You sound like a privileged woman who can see the opportunity to harness patriarchal structures in her own self interest. Who has been dealt a decent hand in life and who's priority is to hang on to her own advantage. You sound like life has been kind to you, so you're able to focus in on fripperies like how polite a man is when he's advocating for the oppression of people less fortunate than you.
Far right? I don't know. I think the terms left and right as used these days have so little resemblance to what I've always thought they meant, they're pretty much meaningless to me now.

Interesting reply, life has not been particularly kind to me at all, but an interesting reply

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GabrielsOboe · 13/09/2025 16:52

Septemberisaweirdmonth · 13/09/2025 16:12

Years ago I would have described myself as liberal and on the left. Over recent years the things I seem to agree with seem to be considered to be on the right and even far right

Examples:

I see nothing wrong with wanting to retain British culture or the innate culture of any country and see nothing wrong with a country being proud of its flag..as many are-Spain, Usa, Portugal etc etc

Whilst I have no issue with anyone being transgender, I do not believe transgender males should play in female sports, be in female toilets, prisons etc and I don’t believe children should be given drugs to alter their gender.

I think immigration in Europe needs to be controlled.,and quickly

I would be put off a man and likely wouldn’t see him again if he asked to split the bill on a first date. I can pay the bill four times over, but that’s not the point.

I am educated to post degree status and worked full time in my career for many years until I had my dc, I then wanted to and was thankfully able to stay at home. I see nothing wrong with the man going out to work, the mum staying home, taking care of the kids and the house-if that suits everyone and they’re happy doing that. My ideal scenario now would be a nice community, homeschooling and raising kids.

I am not anti abortion completely but my stance leans more towards this angle (I don’t tell anyone this though)

I regularly watched Charlie kirk, whilst I didn’t agree with everything and i’m not hugely religious, I agreed with a lot of his points and found he made his points respectfully. I also regularly watch Piers morgan uncensored

I didn’t agree with the almost forcing of people to have the covid injection

I quite like Trump

I feel embarrassed writing all this down as I feel I can’t really say this in real life

Have I become far right?

No, darling - you have not become ‘far right’ - and you know you haven’t.

Why do you feel embarrassed, and why can’t you express your views in ‘real life’?

brytersky · 13/09/2025 16:52

I'm quite a hard line nationalist and I think trump, farage, robinson etc. are absolute loons who belong in the bin.

Jumpingthruhoops · 13/09/2025 16:52

No, you are not Far Right. You're just a normal person with traditional values and common sense, two things which have become almost alien concepts in society.

I could have written your post and I am most certainly not Far Right. I can look in the mirror and know that I'm a good person. I also know that many of those criticising can't say the same thing, so their opinion is largely irrelevant to me.

UserUserUser12 · 13/09/2025 16:52

GinAndJuice99 · 13/09/2025 16:26

You sound ultra basic and very susceptible to media influence

Yep.

MyLimeGuide · 13/09/2025 16:52

Septemberisaweirdmonth · 13/09/2025 16:48

Definitely not a post like that and what makes me a not very nice person? There is nothing in what I think that makes me not nice, why? 😔

Forget about this bigoted OP you do sound like a nice person.

AliceMaforethought · 13/09/2025 16:54

YABVU to be concerned for women and girls' safety (as you imply by not wanting trans women in women's bathrooms) and to also 'quite like Trump' who is a documented abuser of women. I'm not sure that it is even about left and right, just about consistency. I sometimes think that labeling these things as 'left' and 'right' is divisive and also misses the point. It should be about issues, rather than assigning moral values to either 'side'.

dynamiccactus · 13/09/2025 16:54

I don't think things like wanting male bodied people to stay out of female spaces an sport is far right.

Or wanting to stop thousands of young men coming to the UK illegally (and leaving their women and children behind to have to put up with goodness knows what).

As for abortion at full term, it doesn't happen in the UK and I would like to see it decriminalised generally because men should not get a say in what happens to womens' bodies.

But it should be entirely possible for a centrist government to deal with (a) and (b) and it's pretty sad that people think they need to vote for Farage to deal with it.

CountFucula · 13/09/2025 16:54

MyLimeGuide · 13/09/2025 16:52

Forget about this bigoted OP you do sound like a nice person.

Yeah, in OP’s world you can agree with gun touting bigots and anti-abortionists (even in the case of rape) and as long as you’re ‘nice’ that’s what matters.

SnipSnipMrBurgess · 13/09/2025 16:54

Septemberisaweirdmonth · 13/09/2025 16:46

Seriously? Why? I’m a qualified teacher

No you aren't you are a SAHM.

With right wing ideologies.

This does not make you qualified for anything.

Newsenmum · 13/09/2025 16:54

PrizedPickledPopcorn · 13/09/2025 16:51

What has he said and how do you know?

He has been accused of saying a lot.

Have you watched any of his videos? I dont like him saying abortion is wrong in all circumstances and he would force his ten year old daughter to give birth if she was raped. And he is very harsh on women who have been raped and then aborted. He also thinks Muslims are bad people and abuse women. Those are just two of the videos Ive watched recently.

Septemberisaweirdmonth · 13/09/2025 16:55

HelloMyNameIsElderSmurf · 13/09/2025 16:41

You sound like a good old-fashioned Tory to me, sort of like my mother in law. All Jam and Jerusalem and good save the King.

Apart from the liking Trump bit - I mean, really - what is there to like??

The bit that’s missing is where you believe your opinions should influence or affect other people. Take abortion - if you could vote to restrict abortion rights, would you? I know a few people who probably wouldn’t consider a termination for themselves but would never dream of taking another woman’s right to choose away from her.

Similarly women staying at home - I know lots of SAHMs. In some ways, I’m one myself (had to downsize my career enormously due to DS’s disability). But I would never dream of presuming that is the right choice for anyone else. My feminism recognises the work that happens at home as work and it’s very important to me that society sees child-rearing and home-making as important labour, but I would never dream of even silently judging a mother who works just because she wants to.

God I am no way like the way you say your mil is 😂
I also don’t judge working mothers at all, it’s more that I feel it’s judged more the other way around

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KTheGrey · 13/09/2025 16:55

SnipSnipMrBurgess · 13/09/2025 16:40

Id say leaning hard right and at danger of going too far over.

Id also say you dont sound like a nice person and id feel very sorry for you if this wasn't a ragebait post in the same format as the podcaster Kirk did.

I know id be very embarrassed to tell people I watched his videos out loud. Its like admitting you like to throw rocks at poor people in your spare time or shave toe clippings on your dinner.

Watching videos is equivalent to liking to throw rocks at poor people?

Talking annd listening are not the same as physical assault. Do you genuinely not understand that? I find that scary.

nixon1976 · 13/09/2025 16:55

GeneralPeter · 13/09/2025 16:47

You would be embarassed to agree with Charlie Kirk on anything. If that's how you determine your values or beliefs then you aren't in control of them: he is.

I think you’re tangling yourself in word spaghetti. I am completely in control of my values. I disagree with almost every word that came out of Charlie Kirk’s mouth. It’s a turn of phrase to say that I’d be embarrassed if I thought differently.

Let’s leave it there please. This is the op’s thread, not yours or mine.

Newsenmum · 13/09/2025 16:56

Septemberisaweirdmonth · 13/09/2025 16:55

God I am no way like the way you say your mil is 😂
I also don’t judge working mothers at all, it’s more that I feel it’s judged more the other way around

I also feel judged as a stay at home
mother.

brytersky · 13/09/2025 16:56

This is the problem with this left and right concept. People historically believed that nice people voted Labour and the evil people voted Tory. Now we discover that leftists are actually just as problematic as anyone else. I have a family friend who grew up under eastern bloc communism. He has lifelong trauma from it.

MyLimeGuide · 13/09/2025 16:56

CountFucula · 13/09/2025 16:54

Yeah, in OP’s world you can agree with gun touting bigots and anti-abortionists (even in the case of rape) and as long as you’re ‘nice’ that’s what matters.

Edited

Bit of an 'extreme' comment!

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