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Am I considered far right now?

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Septemberisaweirdmonth · 13/09/2025 16:12

Years ago I would have described myself as liberal and on the left. Over recent years the things I seem to agree with seem to be considered to be on the right and even far right

Examples:

I see nothing wrong with wanting to retain British culture or the innate culture of any country and see nothing wrong with a country being proud of its flag..as many are-Spain, Usa, Portugal etc etc

Whilst I have no issue with anyone being transgender, I do not believe transgender males should play in female sports, be in female toilets, prisons etc and I don’t believe children should be given drugs to alter their gender.

I think immigration in Europe needs to be controlled.,and quickly

I would be put off a man and likely wouldn’t see him again if he asked to split the bill on a first date. I can pay the bill four times over, but that’s not the point.

I am educated to post degree status and worked full time in my career for many years until I had my dc, I then wanted to and was thankfully able to stay at home. I see nothing wrong with the man going out to work, the mum staying home, taking care of the kids and the house-if that suits everyone and they’re happy doing that. My ideal scenario now would be a nice community, homeschooling and raising kids.

I am not anti abortion completely but my stance leans more towards this angle (I don’t tell anyone this though)

I regularly watched Charlie kirk, whilst I didn’t agree with everything and i’m not hugely religious, I agreed with a lot of his points and found he made his points respectfully. I also regularly watch Piers morgan uncensored

I didn’t agree with the almost forcing of people to have the covid injection

I quite like Trump

I feel embarrassed writing all this down as I feel I can’t really say this in real life

Have I become far right?

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Bumble2016 · 13/09/2025 16:36

Yea, you're a right-wing conservative who doesn't sound particularly tolerant.

GoldMerchant · 13/09/2025 16:36

Pinepeak2434 · 13/09/2025 16:32

My father-in-law came here legally in the 1960s, worked his entire adult life, and raised a family - without him, my husband and children wouldn’t exist. Yet most of his children voted Reform, and I’m seriously considering it too. I am not far-right, and I will not be shut down and called far right for raising legitimate concerns about illegal immigration.Throwing around the term “far-right” so casually only dilutes its real meaning.

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Can I ask (genuinely curious) why you're considering voting Reform? Is it that you think illegal immigration is huge numbers? That immigration overall is too high? That asylum seekers get too much from the state?

Are there any other parts of their platform that appeal to you?

PrizedPickledPopcorn · 13/09/2025 16:36

The biggest issue I see around me right now, isn’t the variety of opinions. It’s not the different ways people see the world and their suggested solutions.

It’s the puerile and ultimately dangerous vilification of people who don’t align with your views.

I don’t mind whether you are pro or anti abortion, believe people can change sex or think immigrants are a rich source of talent/drain on our limited resources/both.

I really care what you say about people who disagree with you.

Septemberisaweirdmonth · 13/09/2025 16:36

Pinepeak2434 · 13/09/2025 16:32

My father-in-law came here legally in the 1960s, worked his entire adult life, and raised a family - without him, my husband and children wouldn’t exist. Yet most of his children voted Reform, and I’m seriously considering it too. I am not far-right, and I will not be shut down and called far right for raising legitimate concerns about illegal immigration.Throwing around the term “far-right” so casually only dilutes its real meaning.

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Exactly this

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recipientofraspberries · 13/09/2025 16:38

Yes.

recipientofraspberries · 13/09/2025 16:39

I would really genuinely love to hear form Reform supporters on this thread, what Reform policies do you agree with ASIDE from their immigration stance?

donaldtrumponlyhasonedancemove · 13/09/2025 16:39

I find the bit about homeschooling being your ideal scenario the most scary party of your post.

flyingsquirrelsagogo · 13/09/2025 16:39

You’re right wing, for sure. Not far right.
Are you pro choice or pro life?
Please tell me what it you like about Trump?!

nixon1976 · 13/09/2025 16:40

GeneralPeter · 13/09/2025 16:33

Then you’ve surrendered full control over your beliefs to them.

What do you mean? I wholeheartedly disagree with both of them

SnipSnipMrBurgess · 13/09/2025 16:40

Id say leaning hard right and at danger of going too far over.

Id also say you dont sound like a nice person and id feel very sorry for you if this wasn't a ragebait post in the same format as the podcaster Kirk did.

I know id be very embarrassed to tell people I watched his videos out loud. Its like admitting you like to throw rocks at poor people in your spare time or shave toe clippings on your dinner.

5128gap · 13/09/2025 16:41

You sound like a privileged woman who can see the opportunity to harness patriarchal structures in her own self interest. Who has been dealt a decent hand in life and who's priority is to hang on to her own advantage. You sound like life has been kind to you, so you're able to focus in on fripperies like how polite a man is when he's advocating for the oppression of people less fortunate than you.
Far right? I don't know. I think the terms left and right as used these days have so little resemblance to what I've always thought they meant, they're pretty much meaningless to me now.

Septemberisaweirdmonth · 13/09/2025 16:41

mumonthehill · 13/09/2025 16:33

Traditional values can be saying oppression of women in a more cosy turn of phrase.

Not at all-choice and there being nothing wrong in wanting to stay at home and raise children and the man to provide (if this suits all) it feels like there’s something wrong to want this…in a previous life when younger, I had a great career, loved working, travelled everywhere. After I had Dc I felt differently, but often feel embarrassed to admit this, like i’m some kind of sap

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HelloMyNameIsElderSmurf · 13/09/2025 16:41

You sound like a good old-fashioned Tory to me, sort of like my mother in law. All Jam and Jerusalem and good save the King.

Apart from the liking Trump bit - I mean, really - what is there to like??

The bit that’s missing is where you believe your opinions should influence or affect other people. Take abortion - if you could vote to restrict abortion rights, would you? I know a few people who probably wouldn’t consider a termination for themselves but would never dream of taking another woman’s right to choose away from her.

Similarly women staying at home - I know lots of SAHMs. In some ways, I’m one myself (had to downsize my career enormously due to DS’s disability). But I would never dream of presuming that is the right choice for anyone else. My feminism recognises the work that happens at home as work and it’s very important to me that society sees child-rearing and home-making as important labour, but I would never dream of even silently judging a mother who works just because she wants to.

Newsenmum · 13/09/2025 16:41

All of it was understandable until you said you “quite like Trump”. He is a convicted rapist and quite clearly a paedophile. He has also been acting illegally since taking office (I have friends in America telling me this).

spoonbillstretford · 13/09/2025 16:41

Right wing but not far right, I'd say.

DoingAway · 13/09/2025 16:42

No I think ‘far right’ is more extreme than what you have described. To me it would be someone who would use or advocate for use of violence towards ann authoritarian end. Similarly far left.

SerafinasGoose · 13/09/2025 16:42

Your views are right wing - with the disclaimer that this is the stuff that used to qualify as fairly right of centre. That definition has shifted with time and is far less meaningful than it was.

I think a good many people, likely courtesy of social media, have forgotten what 'far right' actually means.

Bumblebee72 · 13/09/2025 16:42

I don't think that far right. More to the "right" end of normal.

MyLimeGuide · 13/09/2025 16:42

PrizedPickledPopcorn · 13/09/2025 16:31

Right, but the PP said not conservative, which an old school Tory obviously would be. That’s my question really. I assumed there was something more to it that I was missing.

From what I can see, tory.

AzureCats · 13/09/2025 16:42
Ivanka Trump GIF by TacosAllDay

I'll eat my hat if OP comes back and actually addresses the charges against Trump. Are you not bothered he's been charged with fraud, falsingfying documents, inciting violence? Not to mention his association with Epstein and accusations of rape from then minors. The gif is photographs with his own young daughter Ivanka, who he said he would date. Really great role model. 🙄

The amount of British politicians that resign for lesser misdemeanours, and the amount the media tears them to shreds. But Mr Billionaire Trump can seemingly get away with every crime he feels like committing. As a pp said, a British person supporting Trump is madness.

CountFucula · 13/09/2025 16:43

Septemberisaweirdmonth · 13/09/2025 16:41

Not at all-choice and there being nothing wrong in wanting to stay at home and raise children and the man to provide (if this suits all) it feels like there’s something wrong to want this…in a previous life when younger, I had a great career, loved working, travelled everywhere. After I had Dc I felt differently, but often feel embarrassed to admit this, like i’m some kind of sap

Choice only about staying at home or not though, not about carrying an unwanted pregnancy.

IDontHateRainbows · 13/09/2025 16:43

NotAMessiahJustAVeryNaughtyBoy · 13/09/2025 16:24

I would be put off a man and likely wouldn’t see him again if he asked to split the bill on a first date. I can pay the bill four times over, but that’s not the point.

^Btw what has this got to do with whether someone is far right or not?

Trad gender roles i think are associated with right wing/ conservative mindsets

MyLimeGuide · 13/09/2025 16:43

SnipSnipMrBurgess · 13/09/2025 16:40

Id say leaning hard right and at danger of going too far over.

Id also say you dont sound like a nice person and id feel very sorry for you if this wasn't a ragebait post in the same format as the podcaster Kirk did.

I know id be very embarrassed to tell people I watched his videos out loud. Its like admitting you like to throw rocks at poor people in your spare time or shave toe clippings on your dinner.

You sound shallow and judgemental.

Newsenmum · 13/09/2025 16:43

I also have very mixed views about abortion (probably more pro life than I care to admit) but I do not believe on enforcing those ideas on others. Even though I find abortion painful, I constantly remind myself of my privilege that I feel that way.

And now Ive got children I am a SAHM (wasn’t actually my plan tbh) and I still believe myself to be a feminist. Lots of ‘lefty’ ideas I had I now take with a pinch of salt. Same with trans rights. I try to be less black and white with it all.

BloominNora · 13/09/2025 16:43

There is nothing wrong with being proud of British culture - I am very proud of British culture - culturally we produce fantastic music, actors, films and literature. We are very good at comedy, satire and sarcasm, we are a relatively liberal society with a decent level of equality, we are a nation of animal lovers and historically are generally very tolerant.

Unfortunately when the likes of Reform talk about British culture and values, it is not those things they are referring to. The flag is fine, but the current controversy is about the intentions with which the flags are being displayed which is more about intimidation than pride in the country. In my view Reform are more of a threat to our culture than any immigrant.

Your views about paying for meals and women being stay at home parents and anti-abortion stand are right wing conservative but not far right. There's nothing wrong with agreeing that children are better off with a parent at home - but why does it have to be the woman?

The far right element of your examples are that like Trump, Morgan and Kirk which means you will likely be more easily influenced by their rhetoric and move further right in your views.

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