Am I considered far right now?

[Septemberisaweirdmonth]

Years ago I would have described myself as liberal and on the left. Over recent years the things I seem to agree with seem to be considered to be on the right and even far right

Examples:

I see nothing wrong with wanting to retain British culture or the innate culture of any country and see nothing wrong with a country being proud of its flag..as many are-Spain, Usa, Portugal etc etc

Whilst I have no issue with anyone being transgender, I do not believe transgender males should play in female sports, be in female toilets, prisons etc and I don’t believe children should be given drugs to alter their gender.

I think immigration in Europe needs to be controlled.,and quickly

I would be put off a man and likely wouldn’t see him again if he asked to split the bill on a first date. I can pay the bill four times over, but that’s not the point.

I am educated to post degree status and worked full time in my career for many years until I had my dc, I then wanted to and was thankfully able to stay at home. I see nothing wrong with the man going out to work, the mum staying home, taking care of the kids and the house-if that suits everyone and they’re happy doing that. My ideal scenario now would be a nice community, homeschooling and raising kids.

I am not anti abortion completely but my stance leans more towards this angle (I don’t tell anyone this though)

I regularly watched Charlie kirk, whilst I didn’t agree with everything and i’m not hugely religious, I agreed with a lot of his points and found he made his points respectfully. I also regularly watch Piers morgan uncensored

I didn’t agree with the almost forcing of people to have the covid injection

I quite like Trump

I feel embarrassed writing all this down as I feel I can’t really say this in real life

Have I become far right?

All of what you wrote is very average, and non-extreme in either direction. The bit about liking Trump is a bit of a curve ball though.

What is it you like about Reform - assuming you're a supporter?

This is word for word how I feel, thank you for typing it so I didn’t have to! I don’t expect people to perfectly align with me or think they are far right if they don’t. I can accept difference of opinion to a degree, but I do have limits where I find most of reform/maga views completely abhorrent. I don’t think that makes me a do gooder, just someone with an ounce of basic humanity.

NEWSFLASH: I’m also not thrilled with some of what Labour have and haven’t done since the election. They are my usual party but that doesn’t mean I’m blind to their flaws. For some reform voters to use hyperbole to suggest they are tyrannical and the worst government ever is utter bloody nonesense, though! Those sorts of comments are rife on SM and I do wonder what planet some people are on!

You're in the vast majority now. I'm not anti abortion but simply will not pretend there's no difference between 20 weeks and under and late term, the whole "abort at any time at all even if you're about to go into labour" push has had the opposite effect on most normal people - as has the pretence that there has not been that push.

I don't like Trump, the man is a bit of an arse and isn't great to women, but that's pretty much all high profile male politicians and at least he has done precisely what they elected him to do and has massively improved crime and sent a lot of illegal immigrants back - as he promised he would. So he's just not my problem, and I won't pretend otherwise either. And yep, illegal immigration is very definitely a thing, men walking over the Mexican border in their thousands was actually, literally happening and has been more or less stopped. Borders are definitely not illegal and everyone needs them.

The reality is that nearly everyone feels the same as you these days, but on this site you will be flooded with hateful, abusive messages for daring to speak opinions by the same people who are cheering that a man was horrifically murdered in front of his children for speaking words.

And I will be too. I will just be pointing this out and not engaging when this inevitably happens.

So you ignore the fact that just a month ago two Democrat representatives and their families were assassinated by a Trump supporter. Or that Charlie Kirk's killer was also a Republican, from a Republican family.

The quite liking Trump is, frankly utterly confusing. Like, why? I get that some conservatives vote for him as they care about specific policies, but as a person, do you really like him? I mean, he's tacky and narcissistic.

I agreed with a lot of his points and found he made his points respectfully.

no he came was not respectful. He was passive aggressive, smug, over smart stuff n his debates. He retorted to insults when a young students from Cambridge uni called out his and Trumps lies.

if you like Trump and his policies, then you are definitely on right, not sure how far it is.

Exactly. I'm fed up w seeing supposed 'patriots' idolising Trump &Musk when all they want is to insult Britain and treat us like a vassal state. I am pro Brexit, I would support the EU if it worked better tho & I am v pro stronger European ties. I'm fed up with US vulgarity & violence. I know they have many good points but I don't think they are a helpful influence at the moment.

Great post! I'm a left-leaning centrist & feel just as you do!

Well, first, this does not alter the fact that it is clearly true that immigration places a significant additional burden on the NHS. Secondly, not all immigration is the same. Most people are happy to welcome educated professionals and those willing to work and contribute to society. What people are less willing to tolerate is workless immigration which results in (amongst other things) increased pressure on social housing and increased criminality. Professionals and those who work and integrate effectively are less likely to need translators for NHS appointments so the group placing the £130k per day translation burden on the NHS is likely to contain a disproportionate number of immigrants who are workless and not contributing. We should, as a nation, be able to permit useful immigration whilst excluding those likely to be economically inactive. Thirdly, it is not necessarily a good thing that so much of the NHS work force is foreign born. We should train more doctors here, and incentivise them to stay. It is safer and more efficient if those working in healthcare have fluent English themselves, and it is also better if most of the workforce has been trained in more or less the same way to a nationally approved standard. And it is not good for the nations from whom doctors are emigrating to lose their trained medical personnel to Britain.

I wouldn't say you're far right, no.

I think all parties want to get a grip on illegal ferry crossings.

The SAHM and abortion things are red herrings as you later admit you wouldn't impose these on other people, they are just your personal choices and aren't therefore political.

The not paying for a date thing - that's just quite old fashioned (or tight or sexist, I'm not sure which). It's certainly not progressive though so maybe more aligned with conservative values?

So that leaves you liking Trump, a convicted felon and sex offender, and agreeing with Charlie Kirk on various issues. Presumably not the bit where he said he thought gun deaths were a price worth paying for Americans to bear arms?

You're really playing around the edges here.

What about your attitude to welfare, defence, NHS, pensions, education, the environment?

Asylum seekers are not the biggest problem the UK has, and stopping people attempting to claim asylum won't solve very many issues. Illegal immigration is a different thing, and the figures for this are very low.

If most of the asylum seekers are young men, they won't be using maternity services, and are less likely to use the NHS at all. It is older people who use most NHS services, and we have an aging population.

Whatever. Past caring.

Sick of arguing with people who think their opinion is the only right opinion, and that everyone else is a (insert nasty name here).

On the side issue : if a man tried to insist he paid the full restaurant bill I wouldn't see him again.

This book, written last year, shows how we must resist being colonised by US.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=vassalstate.co.uk/&ved=2ahUKEwi1w8CH8NaPAxUY9AIHHUUgEAAQFnoECEAQAQ&usg=AOvVaw21RKQm2s6y2nDS0U3IQYzF

Sorry, the link above about the book Vassal State was meant to be to you, not Dudesmummy!

The shame you experience when voicing extreme opinions is not caused by imagined oppression from trans people, immigrants etc. Rather, it reflects a deeper truth: in Britain, freedom of expression has never carried the same constitutional protection as in the United States. Our rights trace back to the Magna Carta and the Bill of Rights, both grounded in a feudal tradition that made us subjects, not pioneers, and offered no equivalent to First Amendment protection.

I’ve long suspected that the backers of the far right movement are those who want to abolish the monarchy. Essentially, all far right want to do is change the bill of rights.

I’m all for people having points of view (even though in this country you are limited with what that point of view can be) however I don’t like hypocrisy, in one sentence you express protectivism of female spaces, yet the next sentence you completely abandon that and women are chattel that have no agency over their body.

Out of interest, which country or continent did he come from? Is his kids high income? Just curious about demographics other than stereotyped ones supporting Reform.

Until recently, “Far Right” meant advocating things like what the Nazis did, such as:

• White supremacy
• Dictatorship
• Genocide of minorities

Now it seems to refer to things that are “right of centre” such as:

• Wanting to restrict immigration
• Wanting to be able to express national pride
• Concern about cultural/ religious practices

Are “Far Right”.

Given what genuine “Far Right” politicians did in the 20th century, such as starting wars, abolishing democracy and committing genocide, the term is being devalued when it is used to label “very conservative” types.

Spoken from a centrist perspective.

No, Kirk's killer was a socialist, he wasn't aligned w his family's views.

But these murder attempts were by US right wingers :
John Hoffman
Josh Shapiro
Gretchen Whitmer
Esther Salas (her son Daniel was murdered tho)
Nancy & Paul Pelosi (which Trump was mocking while Paul was lying in hospital after being brutally assaulted w a hammer, while Musk was using it to push absurd conspiracies that the attacker was Paul' secret lover)
Mike Pence
Bomb sent to Biden
neo Nazi Marine in 2024 who planned to bomb abortion clinic as well ad target Jewish people & LGBT people

Why do you assume that it is illegal immigration?

legal migrants mostly work, pay taxes AND pay NHS surcharge, so they contribute towards NHS more than many Brits in low paid jobs or on benefits

OP, thought this might make you chuckle (I think many of your views are held by the politely silent majority).

I will add that a lot of people I know
are scared of expressing even mildly critical
views of certain things for fear of losing their jobs. I’ve heard many people at work say things like “I’d better not comment on that” or “I might lose my job if I express a view on that” or “I’d better not say anything in case I offend anyone” if a controversial topic is mentioned.

I suspect that the ballot box
(which is still secret ballot in the UK) will
show what people really think.

Debate must be open.

Assuming that they are working in the UK it is unlikely they need a translator