Am I considered far right now?

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Years ago I would have described myself as liberal and on the left. Over recent years the things I seem to agree with seem to be considered to be on the right and even far right

Examples:

I see nothing wrong with wanting to retain British culture or the innate culture of any country and see nothing wrong with a country being proud of its flag..as many are-Spain, Usa, Portugal etc etc

Whilst I have no issue with anyone being transgender, I do not believe transgender males should play in female sports, be in female toilets, prisons etc and I don’t believe children should be given drugs to alter their gender.

I think immigration in Europe needs to be controlled.,and quickly

I would be put off a man and likely wouldn’t see him again if he asked to split the bill on a first date. I can pay the bill four times over, but that’s not the point.

I am educated to post degree status and worked full time in my career for many years until I had my dc, I then wanted to and was thankfully able to stay at home. I see nothing wrong with the man going out to work, the mum staying home, taking care of the kids and the house-if that suits everyone and they’re happy doing that. My ideal scenario now would be a nice community, homeschooling and raising kids.

I am not anti abortion completely but my stance leans more towards this angle (I don’t tell anyone this though)

I regularly watched Charlie kirk, whilst I didn’t agree with everything and i’m not hugely religious, I agreed with a lot of his points and found he made his points respectfully. I also regularly watch Piers morgan uncensored

I didn’t agree with the almost forcing of people to have the covid injection

I quite like Trump

I feel embarrassed writing all this down as I feel I can’t really say this in real life

Have I become far right?

So you don’t see scapegoating and dehumanising immigrants, calling them all sex offenders and criminals, saying they are invaders and ‘’illegals’’ and that they’re going to take away our culture and replace us, isn’t white supremacy?

You don’t question why Nigel Farage is hell bent on removing your human rights so that nobody else can stop the government doing what they want, when they want. The ECHR was created after WW2 to prevent the autrocities of fascism ever happening again. Immigrants are just a convenient vehicle to allow them to strip everybody of them.

You don’t think painting roundabouts, erecting flags everywhere (especially as this isn’t a usual part of British culture) and wrapping yourself in a flag singing ‘rule Britannia in the streets to intimidate and scare immigrants in response to this ‘’invasion’’ isn’t a show of nationalism?

Your concern is see through. If you cared about the safety of women and girls, you would not align yourselves with friends of Andrew Tate and Donald Trump, and you would be asking questions with a curious mind, wanting to learn. You’d be putting your concerns to your MP. It’s a smoke screen. None of their ilk give a single shit about safety. They care about blaming minorities. End of story. It’s what the far right have always done. It’s scary how no one else can see what’s slowly happening and are virtually frothing at the mouth to willingly remove their own freedoms.

That was quite funny. The only bit I disliked was the verse about mental problems. There are legitimate reasons why there might be more (eg. More older fathers and mothers make them more likely, as do microplastics & chemicals in the water supply) There is an overdiagnosis issue, but it's not the only one

And when you put that spend into the context of NHS total spend which is approximately £188 BILLION in the same time period, that is really a tiny drop in the ocean. And that’s just nhs England.

188 billion?

Okay MUMSNET what steps are you taking when coordinated botting from foreign servers cluster your servers. When theres a co ordinated swarm like this how do you deal with it?

I wouldn’t trust the telegraph as far as I could throw it as far as impartiality goes. Not after they published fudged statistics from the centre for migration control claiming that 70% of sex offences were committed by Afghans. It was bullshit made up by Reform activist Robert Bates. Where do the telegraph get that information from about the NHS translators? Some of them will be for Welsh!

I'd ask that question in site stuff I think. Mind you I've never seen that question answered.

In response to your OP, you are demonstrating a critical thinking of complex ideas which is a pretty good indicator that you are reasonably politically neutral or politically central.

There are actions that people take or do not take in their own circumstances but do not expect that other people will do the same. This is true for both abortion and tolerance of males in female single sex spaces. For example: I wouldn't have an abortion but but I cannot make that decision for another woman or I have no issue with a male entering a female space but I can't make that decision for other women.

With immigration I think it is essential that the government has controls over its borders. Whether the decision about who is coming into their borders could political i.e. which countries/religions are counted out, and what are the goals that have to be achieved to intergrate into society (language etc.), but these question are eternal and always will be.

Right wing and left wing are essentailly the same thing. The both want to control others to prioritise their feelings based on their experience and understanding of the world. We are currently in a state that the conflict has turned away from conversation and towards violence. In the English Speaking world this has precipitated from the Trump administration who to gain power had to cause division. Division is caused by sowing and watering distrust amongst people and the institutions which they pay to protect and educate.

Just to flag to squad simultaneously that the activity across this thread is coordinated

I was going to say centre traditional until you got to abortion, Kirk, trump etc.

In the US that’s mainstream right. In the U.K. that is very far right yes.

Well my friend is a GP in a smallish Welsh town. She's used translators when family aren't available or suitable. Our health board uses them in the hospitals.

When someone says the translation services related to the NHS are wholly related to illegal immigration they forget about tourism. People are stupid or these are unthinking bots. It's it's shocking to me that there could be a lack of understanding about how international London is, how often people have accidents on holiday and what business travel means if you live in London, New York or any European capital city. This terrifying, how ignorant some of the women are on here about how little they know about our economy.And how eager they are to see as destruction.You can clearly see the bots, they're focused on trump.They're focused on the key messaging from putin.But really, there are some voices in there that are truly what you're hearing out in england of the ignorant of the ill informed of the dangerously stupid

Im British Indian. And I have received a lot of abuse for saying very mild things (mild in my view ofc). From both sides. I think we take for granted many things in the UK. Lefties have this very kumbaya view of the world. But there are some very dark places on this planet where absolute horrific scenarios are the norm (rape, child marriage etc). Those evils are mostly upheld by men. No fucking way should these men be in this country. I’ve been accused of Islamophobia and boot licking for saying this!

My family have been here since the 50s. Hand on heart I think the UK is one of the least racist countries on this planet. I’ve said for years (especially around Brexit) dismissing very real and legitimate concerns is a mistake. To label everyone as racist is very reductive and actually the easy option.

i studied at a London uni (7 years ago now). On the way home we as a group of girls were absolutely harassed by men being lewd and propositioning us. It was not men with British accents. These men have VERY different dynamics with women in their home countries. We have to be able to call a spade a spade! It’s ridiculous what the debate has descended into

I completely agree, I think England is one of the least racist places in the world. And I think that on the whole we get along, but I do think that there are groups of people that hate the fact that that is true. England is around 85%. White the rest is mixed. It's been that way for nearly a 1000 years. But you get this uneducated people who just refuse to accept the reality of that, both on the left and the right in regards to the flags, they ve been weaponsed.We should be able to take them back both from thugs and from leftists, who have no loyalty to anything.

I am not sure that wanting to be a SAHM is right wing. Some couples decide the male in the relationship will be a SAHD so these days it is arguably more about financial capacity than ideology. And feminists campaigned for the right to choose.

I am guessing that Transgender people come in all political stripes.

op hadn’t answered a question about which of Kirk’s ideas they agree with so I am guessing that they either don’t know and are frantically watching his videos now so they can respond.

Speaking of which, if it is true that Kirk’s assassin was from a rival right wing faction then this so-called culture “war” has just reached a very interesting turning point.

Yes.

www.kingsfund.org.uk/insight-and-analysis/data-and-charts/key-facts-figures-nhs

There won’t be that many in Wales as most do speak English, so it definitely won’t add up to 130k a day.

I know some will be used for asylum seekers etc but I’m curious where the telegraph have got that figure from. They’re obviously trying to be deliberately inflammatory by publishing it even if it is true, they always are!

Same as the Daily Mail. Nine times out of ten the headlines have been taken completely out of context and/or exaggerated. They have to be two of the worst British newspapers for it!

@justasking111 this was meant to be a reply to you. I forgot to quote!

I’ve no idea if you would be “considered far right”, but everything about you makes me want to puke.

Im confused at your point how much should that bill be in your mind?

I would like to remind you of something sinister that I recall Farage suggesting quite a few years ago and which people seem to have forgotten. He suggested that the test for whether people belong in this country or not should be how far back their roots in this country go. He suggested it should be something like 4 generations. If this were ever to be enforceable I am afraid that you would be sent “back” alongside the “undesirables” and the right wing affinity you are whispering about would not make any difference. The lefties will sing Kumbaya as you depart.

Im not British but none of you seem to know what far right / far left or even conservative even mean but are always harping on about it, the OP isn’t even sure herself what she is

I didn’t know he was a socialist? I know his family were republican and he wasn’t aligned to any party according to his voter records, but there are conflicting reports.

There was speculation that he was associated with Nick Fuentes and was a groyper (so even further right than Charlie Kirk). They had a fall out or something hence the shooting. Some other news outlets are saying that he was living with a trans partner and wasn’t happy about CK’s anti trans stance. God knows, just have to wait and see I suppose.

Im not making a point. You appeared to question the figure, I provided a citation.

I mentioned Trump. I am a Welsh secondary school teacher.