Am I considered far right now?

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Years ago I would have described myself as liberal and on the left. Over recent years the things I seem to agree with seem to be considered to be on the right and even far right

Examples:

I see nothing wrong with wanting to retain British culture or the innate culture of any country and see nothing wrong with a country being proud of its flag..as many are-Spain, Usa, Portugal etc etc

Whilst I have no issue with anyone being transgender, I do not believe transgender males should play in female sports, be in female toilets, prisons etc and I don’t believe children should be given drugs to alter their gender.

I think immigration in Europe needs to be controlled.,and quickly

I would be put off a man and likely wouldn’t see him again if he asked to split the bill on a first date. I can pay the bill four times over, but that’s not the point.

I am educated to post degree status and worked full time in my career for many years until I had my dc, I then wanted to and was thankfully able to stay at home. I see nothing wrong with the man going out to work, the mum staying home, taking care of the kids and the house-if that suits everyone and they’re happy doing that. My ideal scenario now would be a nice community, homeschooling and raising kids.

I am not anti abortion completely but my stance leans more towards this angle (I don’t tell anyone this though)

I regularly watched Charlie kirk, whilst I didn’t agree with everything and i’m not hugely religious, I agreed with a lot of his points and found he made his points respectfully. I also regularly watch Piers morgan uncensored

I didn’t agree with the almost forcing of people to have the covid injection

I quite like Trump

I feel embarrassed writing all this down as I feel I can’t really say this in real life

Have I become far right?

Oh no I think you’ve responded to the right person. It’s just that you keep saying the same generic stuff over and over again. I’m not attacking you at all, I’m engaging very specifically with your points. You said earlier that you see only single young men arriving on small boats (which is broadly true) yet now you keep referring to schools and ante-natal care.

But Trump loves them!

I know this isn't the point of the thread but... The Quakers have historically been some of the most ardent and consistent protesters for social justice (eg anti-slavery). I'm pretty sure they've allowed women to preach since the 1600s. They really aren't socially conservative or holding regressive gender attitudes.

Elizabeth Fry was a Quaker.

Can I join please? Although the only thing that I like about Trump is he puts his country first. Now there’s a novelty!

What relevance does James Goldsmith’s ethnicity or change of name have to your point?
Are you seriously suggesting that there has been no significant trans rights activism in the U.K.? Has the Sandie Peggie case gone wholly unnoticed by you? Did you not see the Scottish politicians grinning in front of a ‘decapitate TERFs’ banner? Did you entirely miss the entire current government spending the run up to last year’s election insisting one way or another that trams women were women and men could grow cervices with hormone therapy (until Tony Blair told them to cut it out)?

You said "we welcomed them with open arms". And it wasn't "some horrible people," it was systematic and institutional racism. Britain wanted non white, colonial subjects labour without giving them equal rights of citizenship, which those migrants then had to fight for.

Yes but who is banning schools from doing this? If a school decides that it doesn't want to have a Nativity play because it doesn't serve it's student body, that's one thing. But no one is saying schools can't celebrate Easter. FWIW I live in a multicultural city and I think every local primary school marks and studies the majority Christian festivals.

I keep getting asked to elaborate by several people, so yes, I’m covering both who is arriving and the impact on schools and healthcare. If that seems repetitive or “generic”, maybe it’s because you haven’t been following the thread properly.

Yes - I’d be embarrassed too although what has a man asking to split the bill on a first date got to do with it ?

How can you possibly like Trump

Lordy, Grok was your free pass, you wrote that stream of consciousness? Ok…

But he's fundamentally damaged his country. He's not put it first, he's just said he will.

Tariffs have brought in significant costs to US manufacturing due to the increased costs of importing materials they need

Frequent changes to his policies has made investors reticent to invest

Multiple countries have files WTO complaints

Countries are doing trade deals ignoring the states, for example the new EU/Asia deals

Look at how his actions actually affect the US, not at what he says

There’s no impact on schools, that’s the problem with your posts.

i wouldn’t call you liberal nor far right - I would call you maybe centrist/right leaning based on most of your points. UNTIL I read about you regularly watching and agreeing with lots of points by Charlie Kirk AND quite liking Trump. These 2 alone make you on the right. Not far right but definitely right.

Yes, and it seems to have really triggered you.

You can make all the accusations you like. Being a leftie repellent is probably a good thing if it keeps you alive.

2 schools in my local area stopped celebrating Christmas and Easter and all religious holidays. Which is extremely sad. I can only imagine it is again our so we don’t offend anyone let’s just not do it approach. Did cause enough uproar to be in local paper.
But we traditionally were a Christian country. And my point was I think the amount of people going to church and being Christian is declining. Easter and Christmas are Christian religious holidays, not just abit of fun. It comes from our British religious routes.
I think people think I’m blaming this on immigration which I’m not at all. Yes the illegal immigration needs controlling asap as we can’t cope with the amount coming over and it is getting out of control trol but I think the biggest decline in our culture has come from the internet and social media.

Charlie's legacy will be awareness that men like this exist(ed). We can never ignore how cold humanity can be. Sorry, but any person who supports this man's values is not moderate/centre. I still cannot grasp how people call him respectful... So I can call someone a cow and it would be fine if I said it over tea and biscuits without raising my voice?

Our respectful Charlie*:
(*My own remarks in parenthesis)

"The answer is yes, the baby would be delivered."
– Responding to a question about whether he would support his 10-year-old daughter aborting a pregnancy conceived because of rape on the debate show Surrounded, published on 8 September 2024
(He made a life-changing decision for his daughter without even blinking, but at least he was respectful)

"If I’m dealing with somebody in customer service who’s a moronic Black woman, I wonder is she there because of her excellence, or is she there because of affirmative action?"
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 3 January 2024
(As a black British 3rd generation immigrant with low level moronic tendencies; this is a very real attitude I face at work from people who cannot comprehend how I earned my senior position. I don't even complain, I withdraw... And then that becomes an issue.).

"Reject feminism. Submit to your husband, Taylor. You’re not in charge."
– Discussing news of Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce’s engagement on The Charlie Kirk Show, 26 August 2025
(Such a respectful message for our daughters. If I'm to try and convince myself that a moderate conservative agrees with this, I would not succeed without feeling I was being unfair to them.)

No, obviously you're not far right. Politics is so polarised now. You can't just have conservative views, you must be a far right wing evil immoral bastard. You can't have left wing views, you must be a bleeding heart lefty liberal snowflake.

FWIW I consider myself quite centrist and I agree with a lot of what you've said. Apart from Trump - he's just an idiot and I can't get on board with anything about him.

Quakers were instrumental in ending Slavery, something Charlie Kirk seemed quite keen to bring back, so no, I don't think most quakers would be thrilled with the OP.

ha ha ha

Trump hates his country. He is ruining it deliberately - and making money out of it.

Even children of illegal immigrants have a right to attend school, sudden increases can stretch resources, class sizes, and teacher capacity. That’s a practical impact, whether or not you choose to acknowledge it.

In public health terms the worry about non use of service is the individual has an increased risk early morbidity.
The pressures
are lack of step down provision, unable to transfer from acute setting causing delayed transfer of care
Not enough care agency staff to undertake care at home
lack of mental health beds leading to over reliance on Extra Contractual Referral (ECR) bed. Costly and often poor quality
Immigrants are not creating significant demands on NHS

Someone above talking about illegal immigration and what it is doing to the country.

come on, you have a problem with LEGAL migration. Overwhelming majority of migration is legal - before Brexit and now after Brexit. Just have courage and brains to admit that you have issues with IMMIGRATION period. Otherwise it’s just disingenuous- there is not enough illegal migration to change your precious British way of life nor to overwhelm public services. It’s isn’t the US with permeable border.

i hate when people are being either hypocritical or gullible/not fact checking. If you hate immigrants from India and Poland because they are too different just freaking say it, instead of hiding behind “illegal immigration”.

signed - highly skilled immigrant

Well yes - of course someone who likes a nationalist autocrat who tried a coup against a democratically elected President and has been systematically removing civic and democratic rights and using the apparatus of state as his own personal militia - yes of course anyone who likes Trump knowing everything we know about him is far right.