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Am I considered far right now?

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Septemberisaweirdmonth · 13/09/2025 16:12

Years ago I would have described myself as liberal and on the left. Over recent years the things I seem to agree with seem to be considered to be on the right and even far right

Examples:

I see nothing wrong with wanting to retain British culture or the innate culture of any country and see nothing wrong with a country being proud of its flag..as many are-Spain, Usa, Portugal etc etc

Whilst I have no issue with anyone being transgender, I do not believe transgender males should play in female sports, be in female toilets, prisons etc and I don’t believe children should be given drugs to alter their gender.

I think immigration in Europe needs to be controlled.,and quickly

I would be put off a man and likely wouldn’t see him again if he asked to split the bill on a first date. I can pay the bill four times over, but that’s not the point.

I am educated to post degree status and worked full time in my career for many years until I had my dc, I then wanted to and was thankfully able to stay at home. I see nothing wrong with the man going out to work, the mum staying home, taking care of the kids and the house-if that suits everyone and they’re happy doing that. My ideal scenario now would be a nice community, homeschooling and raising kids.

I am not anti abortion completely but my stance leans more towards this angle (I don’t tell anyone this though)

I regularly watched Charlie kirk, whilst I didn’t agree with everything and i’m not hugely religious, I agreed with a lot of his points and found he made his points respectfully. I also regularly watch Piers morgan uncensored

I didn’t agree with the almost forcing of people to have the covid injection

I quite like Trump

I feel embarrassed writing all this down as I feel I can’t really say this in real life

Have I become far right?

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EmmaRose89 · 13/09/2025 22:56

No I wouldnt say you are far right but it does seem that you are easily manipulated in so far as you feel the need to ask this question.

Personally I would always vote for personal choice, even if its not a choice I would make for myself. Kindness, empathy and compassion are so important for me and I see more of this on the left.

Strawberriesandlemon · 13/09/2025 22:56

Strawberriesandlemon · 13/09/2025 22:44

I don’t think it’s to do with legal immigration. Post war we invited and welcomed with open arms other cultures and races to help us rebuild our country. Which I think was lovely. It made us diverse.

I disagree with the amount of full grown lone males arriving on boats. Expecting to be housed and paid, then making our streets unsafe. Like the recent incident.

my teenagers are afraid to ever say an opinion in case it might offend someone. I find that sad.

Edited

Sorry forgot to answer also the decline I see is the old school values. Neighbours, family, close knit local circles.
people attend church less. In fact it’s much more common people don’t anymore, some schools near me aren’t even allowed to celebrate Easter or Christmas anymore. These are traditional Christian values. Which I think is sad.
I would never move abroad and insist they don’t celebrate their own religious holidays or try and change things to suit me.
our children don’t socialise the same anymore.
our nightlife is dying out.
our high streets are dying out.
I blame the internet for a lot of the problems and extreme views.
everyone is so scared of offending someone nowadays that it’s just creating a huge load of anxiety and mental health problems. Just my opinion.

FunnysInLaJardin · 13/09/2025 22:57

you quite like Trump, that is enough

Allisnotlost1 · 13/09/2025 22:58

Pinepeak2434 · 13/09/2025 22:52

Even if someone isn’t attending routine appointments, the consequences of that absence can create bigger pressures later. For instance, if children miss vaccinations, outbreaks of preventable disease affect whole communities, not just those who skipped care. If pregnant women don’t access antenatal services, complications are more likely to appear suddenly in A&E or maternity wards, which is far more resource-intensive than routine care. Similarly, people without a GP often delay treatment until conditions are serious, leading to emergency admissions that cost the system more.
It’s not that individuals are constantly drawing on services, but that lack of early, planned access shifts the burden to crisis points, which is both more expensive and more disruptive. And because many aren’t officially counted, councils and NHS trusts underestimate demand, which strains schools, housing, and healthcare planning down the line.

This ChatGPT stuff is all well and good but you need to edit it so it actually responds to the question.

Pinepeak2434 · 13/09/2025 22:59

Hedgehogbrown · 13/09/2025 22:48

Pulling up the ladders behind you. Removing all the things that helped your Father in law build a life here for anyone else to have. I am British and stuck in another country because the laws are too strict on spouse visas. It's reform voters who are making this happen.

Clearly you didn’t even bother to read the whole thread and my posts before jumping in. If you had, you’d have seen I was talking about illegal immigration, not people who follow the legal process like my father-in-law did. But why bother with context when it’s easier to misrepresent someone’s point and attack them.

AmazonianWarrior · 13/09/2025 22:59

MayaPinion · 13/09/2025 18:36

What is ‘woke’? My mother bandies this word about but when I ask her what she means she can’t define it. I guess that’s the outcome of getting your ‘truth’ from the Daily Mail.

I never read the Daily Mail 🤷🏻‍♀️
I don’t read newspapers or listen to the news. I don’t watch it either.

CovenOfCheeses · 13/09/2025 23:00

Septemberisaweirdmonth · 13/09/2025 16:12

Years ago I would have described myself as liberal and on the left. Over recent years the things I seem to agree with seem to be considered to be on the right and even far right

Examples:

I see nothing wrong with wanting to retain British culture or the innate culture of any country and see nothing wrong with a country being proud of its flag..as many are-Spain, Usa, Portugal etc etc

Whilst I have no issue with anyone being transgender, I do not believe transgender males should play in female sports, be in female toilets, prisons etc and I don’t believe children should be given drugs to alter their gender.

I think immigration in Europe needs to be controlled.,and quickly

I would be put off a man and likely wouldn’t see him again if he asked to split the bill on a first date. I can pay the bill four times over, but that’s not the point.

I am educated to post degree status and worked full time in my career for many years until I had my dc, I then wanted to and was thankfully able to stay at home. I see nothing wrong with the man going out to work, the mum staying home, taking care of the kids and the house-if that suits everyone and they’re happy doing that. My ideal scenario now would be a nice community, homeschooling and raising kids.

I am not anti abortion completely but my stance leans more towards this angle (I don’t tell anyone this though)

I regularly watched Charlie kirk, whilst I didn’t agree with everything and i’m not hugely religious, I agreed with a lot of his points and found he made his points respectfully. I also regularly watch Piers morgan uncensored

I didn’t agree with the almost forcing of people to have the covid injection

I quite like Trump

I feel embarrassed writing all this down as I feel I can’t really say this in real life

Have I become far right?

Do you need the MN community to validate that your excrement smells OP?

Have you read the chapter in “Das Kapital” about the communist views on bill splitting?

Lilactimes · 13/09/2025 23:01

unsurewhattodoaboutit · 13/09/2025 19:43

You’ve absorbed too much far right crap on the internet and now yes you are

I’ve got to say @Septemberisaweirdmonth i think you have drifted to the right or a place where you’re not thinking straight.
Trump is an awful man. He has mocked the disabled, grabbed women’s pussies, pulled back from policies to combat climate change which affect the world not just the US. he’s been charged with rape, been unfaithful to his wife, pardoned insurrectionists. I can’t see anything to like about him.
Abortion is definitely something that women have a right to choose and you shouldn’t interfere.

AmazonianWarrior · 13/09/2025 23:02

Allisnotlost1 · 13/09/2025 22:58

This ChatGPT stuff is all well and good but you need to edit it so it actually responds to the question.

Lol so true! 🤣

Hihellogoodbye · 13/09/2025 23:02

no I agree with you

GoldMerchant · 13/09/2025 23:03

Strawberriesandlemon · 13/09/2025 22:44

I don’t think it’s to do with legal immigration. Post war we invited and welcomed with open arms other cultures and races to help us rebuild our country. Which I think was lovely. It made us diverse.

I disagree with the amount of full grown lone males arriving on boats. Expecting to be housed and paid, then making our streets unsafe. Like the recent incident.

my teenagers are afraid to ever say an opinion in case it might offend someone. I find that sad.

Edited

"Welcomed with open arms" is a rather generous interpretation of the British people's responses to Windrush era immigration. There were "no dogs, no blacks, no Irish" signs. Large organisations had policies of not hiring non white workers or of quotas. Pubs would refuse to serve non white customers.

Rewriting history to make white Britons seem wonderful tolerant people, doesn't serve anyone. I can understand concerns about the way asylum seekers are housed: I don't think it's good for young, often traumatized men, to be cooped up in hotels away from communities with nothing to do all day. But to say the concerns about immigration are nothing to do with race is disingenuous.

Also, who isn't allowing schools to celebrate Xmas and Easter?

AmazonianWarrior · 13/09/2025 23:04

Strawberriesandlemon · 13/09/2025 22:56

Sorry forgot to answer also the decline I see is the old school values. Neighbours, family, close knit local circles.
people attend church less. In fact it’s much more common people don’t anymore, some schools near me aren’t even allowed to celebrate Easter or Christmas anymore. These are traditional Christian values. Which I think is sad.
I would never move abroad and insist they don’t celebrate their own religious holidays or try and change things to suit me.
our children don’t socialise the same anymore.
our nightlife is dying out.
our high streets are dying out.
I blame the internet for a lot of the problems and extreme views.
everyone is so scared of offending someone nowadays that it’s just creating a huge load of anxiety and mental health problems. Just my opinion.

💯 agreed

swingingbytheseat · 13/09/2025 23:05

Allisnotlost1 · 13/09/2025 22:58

This ChatGPT stuff is all well and good but you need to edit it so it actually responds to the question.

🤣

ThatCyanCat · 13/09/2025 23:05

VTown · 13/09/2025 22:33

I was actually looking for reactions from Americans, who are the ones having to deal with the fallout, but ok. What did this person say? (Direct citation, not a paraphrase. Links to reputable sources.) Anyone else?

This person? You mean the OU president elect? He's since taken it down but it was screenshot many times. It's been widely reported but here's the Guardian on it. There's no doubt it happened, he and OU have acknowledged it.

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2025/sep/13/president-elect-to-face-disciplinary-proceedings-for-charlie-kirk-remarks-oxford-union-says

President-elect of Oxford Union to face disciplinary proceedings for Charlie Kirk remarks

Union makes announcement alongside condemnation of racial abuse George Abaraonye suffered after ‘inappropriate remarks’ celebrating shooting

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2025/sep/13/president-elect-to-face-disciplinary-proceedings-for-charlie-kirk-remarks-oxford-union-says

CoffeeLipstickKeys · 13/09/2025 23:07

Pinepeak2434 · 13/09/2025 22:52

Even if someone isn’t attending routine appointments, the consequences of that absence can create bigger pressures later. For instance, if children miss vaccinations, outbreaks of preventable disease affect whole communities, not just those who skipped care. If pregnant women don’t access antenatal services, complications are more likely to appear suddenly in A&E or maternity wards, which is far more resource-intensive than routine care. Similarly, people without a GP often delay treatment until conditions are serious, leading to emergency admissions that cost the system more.
It’s not that individuals are constantly drawing on services, but that lack of early, planned access shifts the burden to crisis points, which is both more expensive and more disruptive. And because many aren’t officially counted, councils and NHS trusts underestimate demand, which strains schools, housing, and healthcare planning down the line.

You’ve not actually answered the question .That’s Grok gibberish with a side order of balderdash
You have no data. You’re just speculating

SusieLawson · 13/09/2025 23:08

I noticed that people use the term left and right for reasons that don't make sense in real life, and that leads many people to think types like Nigel Farage who want to distant us from the rest of Europe, care about British people and society, when his main interest is to keep the British economy closely linked with USA banks encouraging people to live in greed and debt, so he can sell his get rich quick schemes based on stock market gambling. The reason he took over UKIP was because the UKIP founder James Goldsmith whose banking family changed their German Jewish name to sound British, wanted the same as Farage, and to destroy the NHS as Farage also wants to do. Instead of doing his best for British people, he would sell us off to the USA, and all the cultural aspects of the USA would be an even bigger influence, such as a melting pot society and trans chi ldren. Then people act confused why what they dislike gets worse after supporting types like Farage.
That's why we could never be a successful republic like Germany and Ireland, as all politicians especially Tories, have turned us into such USA lapdogs, with so much of our economy and media being linked with the USA, that we would be more like the USA if we became a republic. Look at how already, because an African American man was killed in the USA by an American policeman, for some reason it caused British advertising to look like more of a USA type melting pot society than Britain really is. That's nothing to do with lefties.

People are brainwashed into blaming others for what our government have caused with the USA to put us in danger. Afghanistan wasn't extremist until the USA were arming and training the extremists there in the 1980s against Russia, and then when Russia left Afghanistan, the USA didn't care what the extremists were doing through the 90s, until 9/11. Same as how the secret service whistle blower David Shayler told how Britain and the USA were funding Al Q aeda in Libya against Gaddafi, and now Libya is an extremist training ground and we're often being harmed by those who train in Libya such as the Manchester arena, our media never remind people why that happens. Look at how the media doesn't care about those in Afghanistan now after the USA gave up there, while only reporting on the Russia/ U kraine situation, because of how pre Trump USA politicians wanted to use it as an excuse to start WWIII as population control.
I think people are wrong for saying leftie as an insult, when what they're insulting is only really in this country from USA capitalist influence. Only a USA magazine made Bruce J enner woman of the year and have a TV series for Jazz Jennings. Only the USA promote melting pot societies. It's mainly Americans who are angry at JK Rowling. Things that are blamed on lefties.
Actual lefty countries such as most in north Europe and Scandinavia, only mainly promote things like free health care and not getting into debt with credit cards.

Ellen2shoes · 13/09/2025 23:08

A Free Speech March? Just watch the news if you weren’t there or don’t read context. We can all see it’s an anti immigrants March.

This has been instigated by a ruthless mercenary funded by ??? to divide the British people in an attempt to divert the problem of inequality from the uber rich cue Musk, onto immigrants - the most vulnerable.

if the people on the march campaigned against the arms industry sent to the countries in war, immigrants would not be escaping to this country.

Unite the kingdom? The irony. Please people see that is not the intention and if it is, against whom? The defenceless and the poorer, more desperate than you?

ilovesooty · 13/09/2025 23:08

Chobby · 13/09/2025 22:22

I don’t think she’s denying it happened, I think she’s applauding their actions.

There's no point in engaging with that. It's what it wants.

Pinepeak2434 · 13/09/2025 23:10

Allisnotlost1 · 13/09/2025 22:58

This ChatGPT stuff is all well and good but you need to edit it so it actually responds to the question.

It’s insulting to imply I’m using Chat GPT just to shut me down. I’m simply replying to multiple people throughout the thread and if I’ve replied to the wrong post then that’s just human error -but I’m trying to be clear not hiding behind AI. Attacking me instead of engaging with my points says more about you than it does about me!

Pinepeak2434 · 13/09/2025 23:11

CoffeeLipstickKeys · 13/09/2025 23:07

You’ve not actually answered the question .That’s Grok gibberish with a side order of balderdash
You have no data. You’re just speculating

I’ve never used Grok in my life! 🤣

Allisnotlost1 · 13/09/2025 23:12

Strawberriesandlemon · 13/09/2025 22:56

Sorry forgot to answer also the decline I see is the old school values. Neighbours, family, close knit local circles.
people attend church less. In fact it’s much more common people don’t anymore, some schools near me aren’t even allowed to celebrate Easter or Christmas anymore. These are traditional Christian values. Which I think is sad.
I would never move abroad and insist they don’t celebrate their own religious holidays or try and change things to suit me.
our children don’t socialise the same anymore.
our nightlife is dying out.
our high streets are dying out.
I blame the internet for a lot of the problems and extreme views.
everyone is so scared of offending someone nowadays that it’s just creating a huge load of anxiety and mental health problems. Just my opinion.

Thanks for answering.

Schools aren’t allowed to celebrate Easter? Are you sure ot is this something you’ve heard secondhand? I’m quite surprised to hear that. Near me the schools all have a nativity, Easter, they also celebrate Diwali and Eid. So they don’t only have Easter, but they’re definitely not prevented from celebrating it either. This is the some for my siblings’ and cousins’ kids in different parts of the country too.

I agree with you that high streets and the nightlife we used to enjoy are not the same now, but I don’t see what that has to do with immigration. Internet probably part of it, cost of living, young people liking different things. I think people blame immigration because it’s easy to see people who are ‘different’ to themselves and point the finger. Then there are agitators who encourage that finger pointing, usually so they can profit in some way.

And I agree with you that people are afraid of causing offence - but again I think a lot of that is caused by bad actors. The people that say things like ‘kids aren’t allowed to sing baa baa black sheep any more’ and other such nonsense. People are utter afraid of what they don’t know, and we’re so divided as a nation (again I blame the bad actors rather than individual citizens) that lots of people are afraid to bridge the divide. But where I live people do talk to their neighbours, people help each other in a crisis (hopefully doesn’t happen too often) and mostly people want to get along. People drive like lunatics and don’t pick up their dog shit though, that gets my goat.

justasking111 · 13/09/2025 23:12

It's Saturday night, people are tired and emotional. Still less made up threads this weekend which is a win

Lyraloo · 13/09/2025 23:12

If you are so convinced that there’s nothing wrong with being a SAHM, why are you ashamed to admit you are one, and you hide other factors of your beliefs! I find this really odd. I was a SAHM for a number of years when my dc was younger, it never occurred to me yo be embarrassed, it was my choice!

I think the current rhetoric around abortion, especially in the USA, is straying into dangerous territory. Whilst I deplore woman who use abortion as a form of contraception, we must never take away a woman’s right to choose. I do believe all abortions, with the exception of unavoidable circumstances, should be carried out before 12weeks. However, we are now heading backwards to a time when the baby would always survive ahead of the mother! Men were asked who they wanted saving! Do you want to see that again?
With some of your comments, it appears you want to hark back to a previous time, when woman stayed at home, men worked and were in charge and children were home school. Maybe being a Quaker would suit you down to the ground.

Strawberriesandlemon · 13/09/2025 23:14

GoldMerchant · 13/09/2025 23:03

"Welcomed with open arms" is a rather generous interpretation of the British people's responses to Windrush era immigration. There were "no dogs, no blacks, no Irish" signs. Large organisations had policies of not hiring non white workers or of quotas. Pubs would refuse to serve non white customers.

Rewriting history to make white Britons seem wonderful tolerant people, doesn't serve anyone. I can understand concerns about the way asylum seekers are housed: I don't think it's good for young, often traumatized men, to be cooped up in hotels away from communities with nothing to do all day. But to say the concerns about immigration are nothing to do with race is disingenuous.

Also, who isn't allowing schools to celebrate Xmas and Easter?

I’m not rewriting history. Im saying we invited them over. We asked for help. Yes there were and will always be horrible people wherever you go, and yes that was wrong. But we invited them is what I was saying.

sadly LOTS of schools, I know of 2 in my town alone. So I can only imagine it will get worse.

Thory · 13/09/2025 23:14

No you’ve just become conservative like a lot of people do as they get older.

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