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Am I considered far right now?

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Septemberisaweirdmonth · 13/09/2025 16:12

Years ago I would have described myself as liberal and on the left. Over recent years the things I seem to agree with seem to be considered to be on the right and even far right

Examples:

I see nothing wrong with wanting to retain British culture or the innate culture of any country and see nothing wrong with a country being proud of its flag..as many are-Spain, Usa, Portugal etc etc

Whilst I have no issue with anyone being transgender, I do not believe transgender males should play in female sports, be in female toilets, prisons etc and I don’t believe children should be given drugs to alter their gender.

I think immigration in Europe needs to be controlled.,and quickly

I would be put off a man and likely wouldn’t see him again if he asked to split the bill on a first date. I can pay the bill four times over, but that’s not the point.

I am educated to post degree status and worked full time in my career for many years until I had my dc, I then wanted to and was thankfully able to stay at home. I see nothing wrong with the man going out to work, the mum staying home, taking care of the kids and the house-if that suits everyone and they’re happy doing that. My ideal scenario now would be a nice community, homeschooling and raising kids.

I am not anti abortion completely but my stance leans more towards this angle (I don’t tell anyone this though)

I regularly watched Charlie kirk, whilst I didn’t agree with everything and i’m not hugely religious, I agreed with a lot of his points and found he made his points respectfully. I also regularly watch Piers morgan uncensored

I didn’t agree with the almost forcing of people to have the covid injection

I quite like Trump

I feel embarrassed writing all this down as I feel I can’t really say this in real life

Have I become far right?

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user760 · 13/09/2025 20:57

Invinoveritaz · 13/09/2025 20:56

I feel the same OP. I’ve always been very left wing but I am now considered right wing by many despite me believing in lots of socialist economic policies such as nationalisation.
I heard someone from the Labour Party speaking recently who mirrored my views and he describes himself as blue labour.
If my Labour MP were blue labour I’d vote for her but she is just some ostensibly liberal do gooder who believes in censorship and eroding women’s rights . She has little grasp of reality as far as I can see and will never get my vote.

Are you anti abortion like the OP?

tartyflette · 13/09/2025 20:57

I agree with some of the OP's points anout staying at home to raise kids if you want to, and on British culture, although I consider myself European rather than British. But more importantly I detest Donald Trump, Nigel Farage, 'Tommy Robinson' and others of that ilk.
Also a woman's right to choose whether to have an abortion or not is absolute, no ifs or buts.
I'm relaxed about legal immigration and asylum seekers but see the people coming on small boats as an urgent problem for us to solve in the most humanitarian ways possible.
I have a problem choosing how to vote, have never voted for the Tories and cannot see myself doing so in future. Previously I have spoiled my ballot, writing protest messages and/or 'none of the above' over it.
I can't say I'm happy with how the Labour government is panning out. I was a party member but left a couple of years ago when the TWAW creed was allowed to prevail. I think (hope) cooler and more rational heads have rethought this but I am concerned there are still believers in the Party who swallowed the ideology hook, line and sinker.

Ginburee · 13/09/2025 20:58

I don't knownif I would.peg you as far right but I certainly would t want to be stuck in conversation with you.
You sound very jam, Jerusalem and judgemental.

Nichebitch · 13/09/2025 20:58

I just want to say that the discourse about people in other countries being proud of their flags tends to be quite ignorant. In the vast majority of cases there’s connotations to displaying a flag in a domestic setting. Highlighting domestic here. I’m Spanish (one of your examples), and only right wing people put the flag up - although they would also say that it only means they’re proud of being Spanish, and would also say that they do it in other countries with no issues. It’s the same pseudo nationalistic bs

Puel · 13/09/2025 20:58

Maltipoo · 13/09/2025 20:53

What good has he done, and even if he has, does it outweigh the bad? Everyone (perhaps even Trump) is probably capable of the occasional act of decency. What I look for is the whole picture. Did the person do more good than bad? Were the bad things the person did so terrible that no good they could do would ever absolve them?
I do think kidnapping people and sending them off to be tortured in concentration camps in El Salvador makes Trump irredeemable no matter what he does. He could cure cancer and it still wouldn't erase that vile act of psychopathic cruelty. Anyone who likes him, knowing he has done such things, needs to see a psychiatrist IMO.

You hold your opinion as I will hold mine.

MangoLatte87 · 13/09/2025 20:58

Pinepeak2434 · 13/09/2025 16:32

My father-in-law came here legally in the 1960s, worked his entire adult life, and raised a family - without him, my husband and children wouldn’t exist. Yet most of his children voted Reform, and I’m seriously considering it too. I am not far-right, and I will not be shut down and called far right for raising legitimate concerns about illegal immigration.Throwing around the term “far-right” so casually only dilutes its real meaning.

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Genuine question- what are your concerns in terms of illegal immigration? I’m a (legal) immigrant (have always worked here, pay the higher rate of tax etc.) As I understand it, illegal immigration in the U.K. is circa 0.5% of all migrants?

fetchacloth · 13/09/2025 21:00

No OP you haven't become far right, just more experienced in life and there's nothing wrong with that. 😊

Invinoveritaz · 13/09/2025 21:01

user760 · 13/09/2025 20:57

Are you anti abortion like the OP?

No - firmly agree with a woman’s right to choose but respect anyone who would not want one.

Pinepeak2434 · 13/09/2025 21:01

MangoLatte87 · 13/09/2025 20:58

Genuine question- what are your concerns in terms of illegal immigration? I’m a (legal) immigrant (have always worked here, pay the higher rate of tax etc.) As I understand it, illegal immigration in the U.K. is circa 0.5% of all migrants?

I’ve already answered several times throughout the thread. :)

user760 · 13/09/2025 21:03

Invinoveritaz · 13/09/2025 21:01

No - firmly agree with a woman’s right to choose but respect anyone who would not want one.

so that completely distinguishes you from the OP. Unless youre also a trump fan.

Mjin · 13/09/2025 21:04

Yes you are becoming far right. Shame.

caringcarer · 13/09/2025 21:05

I tend to agree with most of what you put but never heard of this Kirk person before he got shot.

N3wUs3rNam3Again · 13/09/2025 21:05

"Whilst I have no issue with anyone being transgender, I do not believe transgender males should play in female sports, be in female toilets, prisons etc and I don’t believe children should be given drugs to alter their gender." I am as far away from far right as you could possibly be, but I don't disagree with this comment.

Westcoastcemetery · 13/09/2025 21:05

You are normal.

user760 · 13/09/2025 21:06

N3wUs3rNam3Again · 13/09/2025 21:05

"Whilst I have no issue with anyone being transgender, I do not believe transgender males should play in female sports, be in female toilets, prisons etc and I don’t believe children should be given drugs to alter their gender." I am as far away from far right as you could possibly be, but I don't disagree with this comment.

Most of MN probably agrees with this comment

Thisisnotmyid · 13/09/2025 21:06

randomchap · 13/09/2025 20:54

I came to the conclusion by reading about him, seeing what he said, wrote and judging him on that

Are you suggesting that you can only judge someone you know personally? That's quite the take

What I am suggesting is that people can make a snap judgment. You’re claiming he wasn’t a good man simply because he had a different opinion to you, not because of something he did. If he committed some atrocious crime I would understand but he simply thought differently and was killed for it.

user760 · 13/09/2025 21:07

Westcoastcemetery · 13/09/2025 21:05

You are normal.

or as normal as an anti abortion, trump loving, vaccine denier can be..

Bluefloor · 13/09/2025 21:07

MangoLatte87 · 13/09/2025 20:58

Genuine question- what are your concerns in terms of illegal immigration? I’m a (legal) immigrant (have always worked here, pay the higher rate of tax etc.) As I understand it, illegal immigration in the U.K. is circa 0.5% of all migrants?

What is the point in border control if we allow illegal immigrants.

Gloriia · 13/09/2025 21:08

Plastictreees · 13/09/2025 20:48

Well you’re in good company here OP. MN is full of Trump and Charlie Kirk apologists, transphobes and just generally spewing vitriol towards marginalised groups. Toxic cesspit.

'Transphobes'. Aka as women who don't want men in women's spaces

The only people 'spewing vitriol' have been rabid haters excited that a man was murdered oh because his views were different to theirs Confused.

randomchap · 13/09/2025 21:10

Thisisnotmyid · 13/09/2025 21:06

What I am suggesting is that people can make a snap judgment. You’re claiming he wasn’t a good man simply because he had a different opinion to you, not because of something he did. If he committed some atrocious crime I would understand but he simply thought differently and was killed for it.

You're minimising the awfulness of his rhetoric and opinion. Let me remind you

Most people are scared when they see a black pilot flying a plane
Taylor Swift should reject feminism and submit to her husband
No one should be allowed to retire
Leftists should not be allowed to move to red states
British Colonialism was what "made the world decent"
The guy who assaulted the Pelosi's should be bailed out
Religious freedom should be terminated
Multiple black politicians "stole white people’s spots"
MLK Jr was "an awful person"
The Great Replacement Theory is reality
Hydroxychloroquine cures COVID
Vaccine requirements are "medical apartheid"
Guns deaths are acceptable in order to have a 2nd amendment
Women’s natural place is under their husband’s control
Parents should prevent their daughters from taking birth control
George Floyd had it coming, the Jan 6th protestors didn’t
The 1964 Civil Rights Act was a "huge mistake"

These are not the opinion of a good man.

Claiming that this is "simply thought differently" completely misses the point.

And you're doing it deliberately.

VTown · 13/09/2025 21:11

I’m an American, so I’m living through this shitstorm right now, and, yes, you are far right. Charlie Kirk was a despicable human being. Respectful?? Ha ha! He would scream at college students and say the most defamatory things about women, transgender, non-whites, etc, all under the guise of “debate” just to stir up more civil/political unrest in this country. He said that a number of gun deaths (including school shootings) were an acceptable price to pay for protecting the 2nd Amendment, so he was a casualty of his own beliefs. (For the record, I don’t think ANYONE should be murdered.) And don’t even get me started on Trump. You “like” a pedophile, convicted felon, racist, pathological liar, and malignant narcissist? I feel sorry for your children.

Pinepeak2434 · 13/09/2025 21:12

Allisnotlost1 · 13/09/2025 20:20

Even if illegal immigrants don’t access all services directly, there are indirect impacts on emergency NHS care, maternal health, vaccinations, GP appointments, temporary housing, and local planning.

Can you elaborate on this? If ‘illegal immigrants’ are not accessing services directly (which they’re not) how are they indirectly affecting the things you mention?

Even if they don’t formally use all services, undocumented immigrants may still need emergency care, prenatal care in urgent situations, or temporary housing, and uncounted populations can affect local planning. These are the indirect ways their presence can impact communities.

user760 · 13/09/2025 21:13

It is interesting though. I am a right leaning centrist. I am a feminist and I believe in capitalism and free markets. I am a remainer and think those who voted for brexit were largely uneducated about the issues or fooled by clever propaganda (or racist).

My teen DC would say I'm fairly right wing (largely due to my view that females need female only space)

MangoLatte87 · 13/09/2025 21:13

Pinepeak2434 · 13/09/2025 17:01

I’m considering voting Reform because illegal immigration is a serious issue that undermines the rule of law and puts pressure on public services like healthcare, housing, and schools, affecting everyone including those who came here legally. It’s unfair to people who follow the proper legal process, while others bypass the rules. I also support parts of Reform’s platform on government accountability, fiscal responsibility, and ensuring laws are enforced fairly. Other parties have consistently failed to enforce existing laws or implement policies that truly control borders, leaving the system open to abuse.

Illegal immigration or asylum seekers?

Pollqueen · 13/09/2025 21:13

Dorb · 13/09/2025 16:22

How can you question it - you are far right!

Don't be ridiculous. None of this is far right. Do you even know what far right is?

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