Am I considered far right now?

[Septemberisaweirdmonth]

Years ago I would have described myself as liberal and on the left. Over recent years the things I seem to agree with seem to be considered to be on the right and even far right

Examples:

I see nothing wrong with wanting to retain British culture or the innate culture of any country and see nothing wrong with a country being proud of its flag..as many are-Spain, Usa, Portugal etc etc

Whilst I have no issue with anyone being transgender, I do not believe transgender males should play in female sports, be in female toilets, prisons etc and I don’t believe children should be given drugs to alter their gender.

I think immigration in Europe needs to be controlled.,and quickly

I would be put off a man and likely wouldn’t see him again if he asked to split the bill on a first date. I can pay the bill four times over, but that’s not the point.

I am educated to post degree status and worked full time in my career for many years until I had my dc, I then wanted to and was thankfully able to stay at home. I see nothing wrong with the man going out to work, the mum staying home, taking care of the kids and the house-if that suits everyone and they’re happy doing that. My ideal scenario now would be a nice community, homeschooling and raising kids.

I am not anti abortion completely but my stance leans more towards this angle (I don’t tell anyone this though)

I regularly watched Charlie kirk, whilst I didn’t agree with everything and i’m not hugely religious, I agreed with a lot of his points and found he made his points respectfully. I also regularly watch Piers morgan uncensored

I didn’t agree with the almost forcing of people to have the covid injection

I quite like Trump

I feel embarrassed writing all this down as I feel I can’t really say this in real life

Have I become far right?

Even if illegal immigrants don’t access all services directly, there are indirect impacts on emergency NHS care, maternal health, vaccinations, GP appointments, temporary housing, and local planning.

Can you elaborate on this? If ‘illegal immigrants’ are not accessing services directly (which they’re not) how are they indirectly affecting the things you mention?

Why on earth are you embarrassed to tell any one in real life? These are your views as they are mine too and I won’t hide it, I don’t shout it from the roof tops but if anyone asks I won’t shy away either. Ps I like trump too

What far left extremism do you think has become mainstream exactly? The Labour Party is practically centre right at this point and there are no mainstream far left figures - even Corbyn was largely hated by his own party. The pro-Palestine rallies are about the closest thing I can think of and a very small number of people in that movement are actually far left.

meanwhile the people on the right I see claiming to be cancelled are usually 1. Upset at being criticised for being actively crap people and 2. Wailing that they're being cancelled in a national newspaper or tv show to an audience of millions.

people not liking you due to your views is a consequence of having terrible views, its not cancellation.

I have similar feelings to you OP, although I’m very for abortion.
I’d say I’m centre and slightly going towards the right rather than left.
I grew up very left wing but i feel recently the left has left me more than I’ve left them.
I’m sure I would be told by the far left that I was far right and that my views were pure evil.

For everyone saying wanting to control 'illegal immigration' doesn't make you racist. Majority of people support this in the area i live in ( predominantly english/white british) and all my neighbours are pretty much awful to my south Asian Muslim neighbour. Nobody smiles at her, says hello to her and they ignore her sweet, polite friendly kids when they're playing out and say hi. I also have a friend who walked past a mini protest and had her headscarf ripped off by grown white men supporting this movement. Both are born in the UK, educated at university level and have parents born here. I know I'm going to hear lots of 'not everyone is like that' but it's rare I have come across people going to these protests that don't have at least slightly racist opinions.

What is it about Trump that you quite like?

You seem like someone who hasn't achieved much and doesn't really contribute much outside of yourself. The traditional values are honestly only followed or talked about by people who do not and have never had much in the way of money or working class sense. What I think has happened is that there's a segment of society that are functionally useless, they don't add to the conversation. But they do keep a ringside. Seat and keep circulating bitterness, regrets and their own inadequacies. Fundamentally, when someone is talking about how things used to be, and they're dishonest, like the way you're being It really highlights the lack of critical thinking the inability to see wider than yourself. And your own direct community, interestingly, a lot of the things that you said. I agree with, but the way that you framed things to say that some of the ways that you think are not standard or somehow counter cultural. It's just wrong on average. When you look at polling for many of your points, you are in wide agreement with most people across England. What you re doing differently is structuring it in such a way that there is an us, and there is a them.Only the weakestMost despicable people behave in that way. In regards to s a h m in the past, when people married, they married their financial equals, women could be made financial equals to a man. Because their family had assets to provide upon their marriage. Wealthy people married other wealthy people. Those women may have stayed in the household, but they had the means to fund that. And contributed to their husband's status or holdings Middle class people married middle class people and middle class. Professional women have been in existence for 500 years or more working class people. Marry other working class. People very few working class people have the ability for people to stay at home and be economically inactive. So what do we have? We now have a reality where supposedly intelligent people argue for a return to a past that doesn't exist.And women like yourself who glorify it because of ignorance, limited education or spite

There are many people who recognise that the number of people entering illegally is out of control and costing a fortune without being the type of person who goes on far right marches or hangs the England flag out of their window. I’m mixed race. I’m not racist. I think immigration is vital for our country. I still think that we need to deal with illegal immigration more effectively.

I think that's the nub of it. You've become a mother/ nurterer It changes you so much. However ,you do readjust again later in life. I wouldn't sweat it.

The Nazi Party were NOT far left, they were far right. They changed their name from the German Worker’s Party to the NDSAP (National German Socialist Workers Party) as a PR stunt in order to widen their net and take the left wing vote. The name was where their socialist values started and ended.

Then as soon as they were in power they killed off their coalition partners (Communists) and rounded up the socialists and sent them to Dachau.

To describe them as socialists is laughable. Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot were Communists, not Socialists. The far left (communists) and the far right (fascists) are BOTH nationalistic, militaristic dictatorships.

Conflating democratic socialism with fascism and communism is a lazy, frankly ludicrous argument.

So what is your stance on abortion?

You “quite like Trump” and Charlie Kirk. That’s over the line, definitely.

I could have written your post OP.

However, I don’t think a person is either on the left or on the right…… there’s a lot of space between the two standpoints where people can sit.

I’m probably closer to the right side but that doesn’t mean I have to agree wholeheartedly with everything they say or believe.

But it's free speech right? Just like Charlie Kirk espoused.

Have you read the rhetoric from the Trump administration? (not random supporters or pundits or influencers but actual members of the administration including Trump?

If you see somebody getting ready to throw a tomato, knock the crap out of them, would you? Seriously, okay? Just knock the hell—I promise you, I will pay for the legal fees. I promise, I promise.”

“I would bring back waterboarding. And I’d bring back a hell of a lot worse than waterboarding.”

"I’d like to punch him in the face.”

Trump actually incited a violent riot in Washington DC which resulted in injuries and death. But it is the rhetoric on the left that is a real problem apparently.
Josh Shapiro was fire-bombed - for his political viewpoint A democratic minnesota lawmaker, her husband and her dog were murdered - for her political viewpoint. any thoughts on the rhetoric that should have been flattened to stop that happening?

For what its worth, OP, I think you are right leaning/right but not far right. The far right and the far left have met. Trump is far right and Charlie Kirk was far right too - just prepared to talk to people.

How can anyone associate the Nazis with being left wing. Where do you get your (mis)information from?

encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/the-nazi-party-1

Hitler formed the Nazi party, the largest socialist workers party of it's time...so far left you'd fall off the edge of a flat earth...
The reason everyone believes Nazis to be right wing is due to post war academic academics realising that their values aligned quite closely to those of pre-war Germany / Italy. This was frowned upon and not wanted by those institutions pushing left wing agendas. Therefore we had about 20-30 years of higher education establishments repositioning Hitler/Mussolini et al as right wing based on their treatment of sections of society in POW camps.

This is just plain wrong. The nazis were far right fascists

I agree with you on everything apart from the splitting the bill thing.

its not far right. Its common sense.

You are far right... Quite like Trump? Jesus wept.

Wrong, you too are far right. Like many far right people you just want to avoid the label to make yourself look better.

You think being anti abortion is "common sense"?

You think liking trump is "common sense"?

So when are your ilk going to post asking if they are hard left. Just in the interests of balance so we can repay the favour. Are you prepared to read those answers?

There's an argument that people arriving with communicable diseases (eg tuberculosis, untreated HIV) or unvaccinated against things like measles are a public health disaster waiting to happen. For this reason, I'm actually in favour of dropping barriers to accessing the NHS for migrants.

Also, if a woman presented at an NHS hospital in labour she'd be unlikely to be turned away for being undocumented.

But I think the overall impact of undocumented migrants on the NHS is likely to be tiny - not let because most are young and healthy to make the journey. If we stopped the boats and sent everyone here without correct papers home tomorrow, the problems in the service wouldn't go away.

Agree. It's a tired propaganda ploy which has long been used by right wingers. I have had to correct them hundreds of times over the years.

OP didn’t say they were anti abortion

liking trump is down to personal preference. I don’t like him but he has done some good (as well as some bad)

I guess this vote means 47% of people are far right?