Meet the Other Phone. Only the apps you allow.

Meet the Other Phone.
Only the apps you allow.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

Am I considered far right now?

1000 replies

Septemberisaweirdmonth · 13/09/2025 16:12

Years ago I would have described myself as liberal and on the left. Over recent years the things I seem to agree with seem to be considered to be on the right and even far right

Examples:

I see nothing wrong with wanting to retain British culture or the innate culture of any country and see nothing wrong with a country being proud of its flag..as many are-Spain, Usa, Portugal etc etc

Whilst I have no issue with anyone being transgender, I do not believe transgender males should play in female sports, be in female toilets, prisons etc and I don’t believe children should be given drugs to alter their gender.

I think immigration in Europe needs to be controlled.,and quickly

I would be put off a man and likely wouldn’t see him again if he asked to split the bill on a first date. I can pay the bill four times over, but that’s not the point.

I am educated to post degree status and worked full time in my career for many years until I had my dc, I then wanted to and was thankfully able to stay at home. I see nothing wrong with the man going out to work, the mum staying home, taking care of the kids and the house-if that suits everyone and they’re happy doing that. My ideal scenario now would be a nice community, homeschooling and raising kids.

I am not anti abortion completely but my stance leans more towards this angle (I don’t tell anyone this though)

I regularly watched Charlie kirk, whilst I didn’t agree with everything and i’m not hugely religious, I agreed with a lot of his points and found he made his points respectfully. I also regularly watch Piers morgan uncensored

I didn’t agree with the almost forcing of people to have the covid injection

I quite like Trump

I feel embarrassed writing all this down as I feel I can’t really say this in real life

Have I become far right?

OP posts:
Thread gallery
8
Loftyheightssss · 13/09/2025 19:42

CapriceDeDieux · 13/09/2025 19:40

erm, lol.

Have they shifted sideways?

randomchap · 13/09/2025 19:42

Thisisnotmyid · 13/09/2025 19:40

I feel exactly the same OP. I didn’t agree with everything Charlie Kirk said but I found him very respectful when he debated people. He was never rude or raised his voice and allowed people to tell their stories openly.

You’re absolutely entitled to your opinion and those who say ‘you sound awful’ etc are the ones who need give their head a shake.

His tone may have been respectful but his message was hateful, misogynistic, racist, and divisive.

He was anything but a good man.

OldMcDonaldHadABigMac · 13/09/2025 19:42

Pallisers · 13/09/2025 19:16

If you think the right isn't flattening anyone else's viewpoint you might want to think again

www.npr.org/2025/09/13/nx-s1-5538476/charlie-kirk-jobs-target-social-media-critics-resign

They're not being "flattened" for their political viewpoints, they're being flattened for rejoicing about the death of another human being.

cottoncandy260 · 13/09/2025 19:42

I think the main problem is the whole polarisation of being either left or right when in fact most people are somewhere in between. So many issues have now been politicised and ‘owned’ by either the Left or Right that many people may tie themselves in knots trying to work out their political leaning. Even switching allegiance depending on which issues affect them personally.

I’ve always been Left leaning but I am acutely aware that it’s easy to have very liberal ‘woke’ views on things that don’t affect me directly. I am not anti immigration for example. I think asylum seekers must be desperate and in dire need of help. I find it hard to imagine turning those people away. However, I don’t feel my life has been directly affected by a mass influx of asylum seekers. I don’t live in a Kent seaside town where maybe school places and doctor appointments are being fought over. I don’t live next to a hotel housing asylum seekers who often have come here with trauma and loss and therefore severe mental health problems which may lead them to commit more crimes. I don’t see many asylum seekers in my community. Therefore it’s easy for me to be accepting of them.

I am happy for people to be whoever they want to be. I welcome all races, sexual leanings, classes etc. But that’s because I have job security, education and wealth. I am secure in my role in society and do not feel threatened by others. It’s easy for me to have these views.

However, for other things it’s not easy. Trans women in sport for example. I compete at quite a high level in my sport- often winning age categories etc- I am therefore strongly against competing alongside trans women. To the point I’m really angry at them and am starting to let it affect the way I view trans women. This is because it affects me directly. It’s not necessarily a Left thing or a Right thing- it’s a personal thing. But as it’s now an issue adopted by the hard right it has become politicised and divisive and I guess people would assume I’m right wing if I air these views.

At the end of the day, people gravitating towards the Right are doing so out of fear. Fear that their world is being threatened. We are all anxious about the same basic things deep down and talk of Left and Right, things being black and white, you’re either on our side or theirs is completely destructive and depressing.

unsurewhattodoaboutit · 13/09/2025 19:43

You’ve absorbed too much far right crap on the internet and now yes you are

MikeRafone · 13/09/2025 19:44

Septemberisaweirdmonth · 13/09/2025 16:43

Totally agree! But the left now seems to flatten anyone else’s viewpoint, making people to scared to say what they feel
We can see this with the Charlie kirk tragedy

Who killed `Charlie Kirk?

MyLimeGuide · 13/09/2025 19:44

ElizaMulvil · 13/09/2025 19:23

Exactly.
The problems we face in schools, hospitals, housing etc are because the Conservatives / Lib Dems brought in austerity ie cutting Council budgets, cutting public and private salaries and wages and benefits ( 2 child policy) in real terms year on year until many people cannot afford to live. Hundreds of children would be taken out of poverty by abolishing this policy alone.

Ditto selling off our nationalised industries eg Water, Railways, Electricity, Gas etc so that the profits went into ( often foreign) private pockets to be hoarded off shore to avoid tax instead of being invested in improvements for the benefit of us all.

Ditto enabling poor working conditions eg fire and rehire, zero hour contracts, creating a climate of fear in the working population who therefore spend less hitting the profitability of industry.

People who are frightened, can't pay their bills often decide to postpone having children witness our dangerously low birthrate which is building up huge problems in the longer and shorter term.

We desperately need immigration for this reason. We don't have 'illegal immigration' because there is no way people ( since we left the EU) can apply for asylum until they arrive here. I believe approximately 75% of people applying for asylum are accepted. We need to speed up the system, allow people to work while they are waiting as many other countries do (heavens we have a shortage of builders, nurses, teachers etc. It doesn't make sense to keep people hanging about for years on end when we need their work.)

It is very dangerous to eg cross civil war areas in Africa, the Middle East, etc. This why it makes sense to send your fit youngish men on ahead if possible rather than subject women and children to violence, hardship of various kinds, hunger, threat of rape etc. Refugees are by definition ambitious, desperate to work hard etc. They are not our problem but possibly our salvation.

The 50 richest billionaire families in the UK own roughly the same wealth as the poorest 50% of the population. The aristocracy own a third of our land plus probably another 17% undeclared. 18% is owned by Business tycoons, more by Royal Estates. 0.6% of the UK's populations owns about 70% of the land.

We need a wealth tax of 2% on our richest ie the billionaires (who won't leave because they like it here and they would barely notice it anyway.) We don't need the freezing of tax bands, a stealth tax penalising the poorest.

Blaming immigration for our problems is just a ploy to divert our attention away from the real causes.

If the cap on 2 child benefit (free money thing) was taken away this would be a bad thing for the economy and the human race in general. Having children is an absolute privilege. A lot of children in the UK aren't looked after properly, they are neglected. The 2 child cap is a deterrent for neglectful parents and it would be an absolute tragedy if it was removed.

Thegreyhound · 13/09/2025 19:45

Septemberisaweirdmonth · 13/09/2025 16:12

Years ago I would have described myself as liberal and on the left. Over recent years the things I seem to agree with seem to be considered to be on the right and even far right

Examples:

I see nothing wrong with wanting to retain British culture or the innate culture of any country and see nothing wrong with a country being proud of its flag..as many are-Spain, Usa, Portugal etc etc

Whilst I have no issue with anyone being transgender, I do not believe transgender males should play in female sports, be in female toilets, prisons etc and I don’t believe children should be given drugs to alter their gender.

I think immigration in Europe needs to be controlled.,and quickly

I would be put off a man and likely wouldn’t see him again if he asked to split the bill on a first date. I can pay the bill four times over, but that’s not the point.

I am educated to post degree status and worked full time in my career for many years until I had my dc, I then wanted to and was thankfully able to stay at home. I see nothing wrong with the man going out to work, the mum staying home, taking care of the kids and the house-if that suits everyone and they’re happy doing that. My ideal scenario now would be a nice community, homeschooling and raising kids.

I am not anti abortion completely but my stance leans more towards this angle (I don’t tell anyone this though)

I regularly watched Charlie kirk, whilst I didn’t agree with everything and i’m not hugely religious, I agreed with a lot of his points and found he made his points respectfully. I also regularly watch Piers morgan uncensored

I didn’t agree with the almost forcing of people to have the covid injection

I quite like Trump

I feel embarrassed writing all this down as I feel I can’t really say this in real life

Have I become far right?

If you have to ask then the answer is probably yes

OneNewLeader · 13/09/2025 19:45

Socially conservative, you may still be economically liberal.

ThriveAT · 13/09/2025 19:45

Septemberisaweirdmonth · 13/09/2025 16:12

Years ago I would have described myself as liberal and on the left. Over recent years the things I seem to agree with seem to be considered to be on the right and even far right

Examples:

I see nothing wrong with wanting to retain British culture or the innate culture of any country and see nothing wrong with a country being proud of its flag..as many are-Spain, Usa, Portugal etc etc

Whilst I have no issue with anyone being transgender, I do not believe transgender males should play in female sports, be in female toilets, prisons etc and I don’t believe children should be given drugs to alter their gender.

I think immigration in Europe needs to be controlled.,and quickly

I would be put off a man and likely wouldn’t see him again if he asked to split the bill on a first date. I can pay the bill four times over, but that’s not the point.

I am educated to post degree status and worked full time in my career for many years until I had my dc, I then wanted to and was thankfully able to stay at home. I see nothing wrong with the man going out to work, the mum staying home, taking care of the kids and the house-if that suits everyone and they’re happy doing that. My ideal scenario now would be a nice community, homeschooling and raising kids.

I am not anti abortion completely but my stance leans more towards this angle (I don’t tell anyone this though)

I regularly watched Charlie kirk, whilst I didn’t agree with everything and i’m not hugely religious, I agreed with a lot of his points and found he made his points respectfully. I also regularly watch Piers morgan uncensored

I didn’t agree with the almost forcing of people to have the covid injection

I quite like Trump

I feel embarrassed writing all this down as I feel I can’t really say this in real life

Have I become far right?

Very.

Boohoo76 · 13/09/2025 19:46

randomchap · 13/09/2025 19:37

The Nazis hated socialism, communism and trade unions.

They enforced strict hierarchies based on race, sex, and social class

Glorified war and military strength

Rejected democracy, had a single powerful leader

They believed their race was the greatest.

All these are far right, not far left.

There isn’t much difference between far right and far left. In fact, it’s circular. If you go far enough right you end up left and vice versa. Neither “side” want to admit it.

ChachiChichi · 13/09/2025 19:46

Just reminds me of when George Orwell said something like 'a man in his twenties is a socialist, by his thirties a conservative and by forties and beyond a fascist'. Your trajectory sounds similar.

CoffeeLipstickKeys · 13/09/2025 19:48

Newsenmum · 13/09/2025 19:31

Isnt it more just wanting to be nice and make the person feel special?

Why does a man paying for your dinner make you feel nice and special?Do you expect others to pay for your meals eg family,friends,colleague or just men? Would you feel plain and ordinary paying for your own meal?

CallMeEvelyn · 13/09/2025 19:48

I was roughly in agreement with you OP until your abortion comment - everything from that point is definitely not something I can agree with you on, and it's right-wing leaning far-right. You have let yourself be influenced by far right and lost a measured, critical view.

VirginiaCreepers · 13/09/2025 19:49

I'd say your views are quite closely (but not perfectly) aligned to the Daily Telegraph. The DT has shifted right in the last 10-20 years - so your views seem quite right wing but nothing outside the realm/range of mainstream media/public opinion today.

I'd call your views a bit regressive rather than far right- maybe showing a bit of credulousness.

Greysowhat · 13/09/2025 19:49

Culture is a present sort of thing. So British culture is the culture we have right now. So you should be happy with that OP. Or did you have some other version of British culture you would prefer?

Efrogwraig · 13/09/2025 19:50

Yes. Comfortably so.

CallMeEvelyn · 13/09/2025 19:51

And I agree far left are just as bonkers as far right and not that dissimilar. Both groups are 100% the reason we are in the mess we're in, if the pendulum swings too far nothing good ever comes out of it as people are too blindsided to collaborate and respect each other. We've seen this in history, and the bleak outcome.

Mecheng2 · 13/09/2025 19:51

What is there to like about trump ? He is clearly a misogynist and racist, with poor behaviour regarding people with disabilities,he has devastating impact on politics , constantly talking completely rubbish and lying? have you fully read the aims of project 2025.? When I read people in uk liking him , I feel depressed and afraid for future of our children

hadjustaboutenough · 13/09/2025 19:53

To suggest that the OP is far right is absolutely ridiculous. Whether you agree with her or not, nothing she stated in her first post is 'far right'. Like so many other terms, 'far right' has become meaningless, because people use it incorrectly and apply it to things that aren't remotely 'far' anything.

Hermanina · 13/09/2025 19:55

Stalin was a dictator same as Hitler and Mussolini. The two latter were fascists, Stalin created his version of communism. There are a lot of similarities but they are not the same. Check out this link for a full explanation: www.diffen.com/difference/Communism_vs_Fascism
If you look at the pure theory of communism it could be the answer to all humanity’s problems, but so far has never been successful, creating dictatorships and / or poorly performing economies.

tripleginandtonic · 13/09/2025 19:55

How were you ever liberal or somewhat left wing?

DressOrSkirt · 13/09/2025 19:56

You say you don't push your views on others, so how can you be anti-abortion?

Blinky21 · 13/09/2025 19:56

You sound pretty stupid if you believe all that rubbish

CallMeEvelyn · 13/09/2025 19:56

tripleginandtonic · 13/09/2025 19:55

How were you ever liberal or somewhat left wing?

I agree, there's no way you ever were that, you are conservative through and through, even if you don't want to admit this to yourself.

Please create an account

To comment on this thread you need to create a Mumsnet account.

This thread is not accepting new messages.