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Am I considered far right now?

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Septemberisaweirdmonth · 13/09/2025 16:12

Years ago I would have described myself as liberal and on the left. Over recent years the things I seem to agree with seem to be considered to be on the right and even far right

Examples:

I see nothing wrong with wanting to retain British culture or the innate culture of any country and see nothing wrong with a country being proud of its flag..as many are-Spain, Usa, Portugal etc etc

Whilst I have no issue with anyone being transgender, I do not believe transgender males should play in female sports, be in female toilets, prisons etc and I don’t believe children should be given drugs to alter their gender.

I think immigration in Europe needs to be controlled.,and quickly

I would be put off a man and likely wouldn’t see him again if he asked to split the bill on a first date. I can pay the bill four times over, but that’s not the point.

I am educated to post degree status and worked full time in my career for many years until I had my dc, I then wanted to and was thankfully able to stay at home. I see nothing wrong with the man going out to work, the mum staying home, taking care of the kids and the house-if that suits everyone and they’re happy doing that. My ideal scenario now would be a nice community, homeschooling and raising kids.

I am not anti abortion completely but my stance leans more towards this angle (I don’t tell anyone this though)

I regularly watched Charlie kirk, whilst I didn’t agree with everything and i’m not hugely religious, I agreed with a lot of his points and found he made his points respectfully. I also regularly watch Piers morgan uncensored

I didn’t agree with the almost forcing of people to have the covid injection

I quite like Trump

I feel embarrassed writing all this down as I feel I can’t really say this in real life

Have I become far right?

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PaisleyGilmourStreet · 13/09/2025 19:23

Septemberisaweirdmonth · 13/09/2025 16:12

Years ago I would have described myself as liberal and on the left. Over recent years the things I seem to agree with seem to be considered to be on the right and even far right

Examples:

I see nothing wrong with wanting to retain British culture or the innate culture of any country and see nothing wrong with a country being proud of its flag..as many are-Spain, Usa, Portugal etc etc

Whilst I have no issue with anyone being transgender, I do not believe transgender males should play in female sports, be in female toilets, prisons etc and I don’t believe children should be given drugs to alter their gender.

I think immigration in Europe needs to be controlled.,and quickly

I would be put off a man and likely wouldn’t see him again if he asked to split the bill on a first date. I can pay the bill four times over, but that’s not the point.

I am educated to post degree status and worked full time in my career for many years until I had my dc, I then wanted to and was thankfully able to stay at home. I see nothing wrong with the man going out to work, the mum staying home, taking care of the kids and the house-if that suits everyone and they’re happy doing that. My ideal scenario now would be a nice community, homeschooling and raising kids.

I am not anti abortion completely but my stance leans more towards this angle (I don’t tell anyone this though)

I regularly watched Charlie kirk, whilst I didn’t agree with everything and i’m not hugely religious, I agreed with a lot of his points and found he made his points respectfully. I also regularly watch Piers morgan uncensored

I didn’t agree with the almost forcing of people to have the covid injection

I quite like Trump

I feel embarrassed writing all this down as I feel I can’t really say this in real life

Have I become far right?

Nothing here is extreme. Disagreeable perhaps but not, by any sensible person's logic, extreme. So no, you don't remotely fit the definition of far right.
Indeed, considering the historical reality of 'far' left/right ideologies, it's laughable frankly that anyone would call you 'far' right based on this list (people use the term 'far' right/left now purely to mud sling, 'far' has become a term apropos of nothing).

UserUserUser12 · 13/09/2025 19:23

IstillloveKingThistle · 13/09/2025 19:17

Oh please .

Typical leftist garbage

Perhaps not insane but often easily led or lacking compassion .

Loftyheightssss · 13/09/2025 19:25

nixon1976 · 13/09/2025 16:28

I would be hugely embarrassed if I liked Trump and agreed with anything Charlie Kirk said

You'd best get ready to be embarrassed that Mandy and Rayner have shafted you.

Mushypeas101 · 13/09/2025 19:26

BearPear · 13/09/2025 16:28

This post (and its title) immediately made me think of the Father Ted scene “so I hear you’re a racist now Father”!
I would be interested what it is that you like about Trump.

Also

“funny how you become more right wing as you get older”

Seymour5 · 13/09/2025 19:27

CurlewKate · 13/09/2025 18:22

@SeptemberisaweirdmonthWhat do you mean by “British culture”? I keep asking this and nobody can ever say.

My kind of British culture includes taking responsibility for yourself and your family as far as is possible. Having a work ethic. Being a decent neighbour. Being honest. Ensuring those who are genuinely vulnerable are treated fairly, and cared for where necessary. Abortion is a right but shouldn't be used as birth control. I will happily call a bloke Alice if that's his preference but I don't want him in women's spaces or in women's sport.

My closest friend is black, and we hold very similar views on immigration. That's due to numbers mainly, and the pressures on services.

Perplexed20 · 13/09/2025 19:28

Primary school teacher?

Chobby · 13/09/2025 19:28

Loftyheightssss · 13/09/2025 19:25

You'd best get ready to be embarrassed that Mandy and Rayner have shafted you.

Why do you assume that everyone who dislikes Trump is a Labour supporter?

DarthTrick · 13/09/2025 19:29

Hermanina · 13/09/2025 18:55

Hitler sent socialists and communists to concentration camps, nothing left about the Nazis whatsoever.

He did, along with business owners, politicians and anyone who opposed him...

See also Russia circa 1917 onwards.

EasternStandard · 13/09/2025 19:29

Perplexed20 · 13/09/2025 19:28

Primary school teacher?

Why do you question that part?

Btb · 13/09/2025 19:29

Dorb · 13/09/2025 16:22

How can you question it - you are far right!

She’s normal not far right it’s sensible what she is

Newsenmum · 13/09/2025 19:31

Chiseltip · 13/09/2025 18:08

Wanting a man to pay for a date is tantamount to prostitution. You're basically saying they have to pay you for your time . . .

Isnt it more just wanting to be nice and make the person feel special?

Loftyheightssss · 13/09/2025 19:33

Chobby · 13/09/2025 19:28

Why do you assume that everyone who dislikes Trump is a Labour supporter?

Past experience

ThatCyanCat · 13/09/2025 19:33

Chiseltip · 13/09/2025 18:08

Wanting a man to pay for a date is tantamount to prostitution. You're basically saying they have to pay you for your time . . .

It's only prostitution if there's an agreement that she'll sleep with him in exchange for dinner. It's actually men who tend to get angry that that's rarely the deal. Even if she did decide to sleep with him, it's usually because he was such good company that she wanted to, not because the average woman evaluates her sexual worth in curries and pasta.

Chobby · 13/09/2025 19:33

Loftyheightssss · 13/09/2025 19:33

Past experience

Ah. Wrong in my case, and a great number of people I know.

Namechangerage · 13/09/2025 19:34

What your exact views on abortion? If a 13 year old girl were raped would you expect her to give birth?

I would call you traditional conservative but with the added challenge of being in a SAHM sheltered bubble (not all SAHPs are, but it’s easy to do) AND being influenced by internet weirdoes.

Loftyheightssss · 13/09/2025 19:35

If you have to come on a forum and ask for validation for your views you've already scored an own goal.

CapriceDeDieux · 13/09/2025 19:35

Can some one please tell me who the far left are please? I really don't understand. Can you name the groups and individuals you are talking about? This is a genuine question. Also are they a coherant movement? Who are the leaders? Are their factions?

Is it Jeremy Corbyn? He just seems to have a set of views that were pretty mainstream socialism in the 70s & 80s - as in pre-New-Labour Labour. I find it bizarre if that is who we are referring to. But that said I don't find the Labour government actually promoting many Labour values as I understood them.

I do not think the terms left and right, and by extension far left and far right, or even Labour and Conservative are particularly meaningful - the rhetoric and definitions are constanty being co-opted and are in flux to the point of meaninglessness. Though, I would argue that there is a much clearer far right set of groups and figureheads and they are certainly well represented in social and mainstream media. I am struggling to think of "far left" equivalents.

As for the OP I would suggest that you are a C/conservative and therefore right wing, and influenced by further right rhetoric. The immorality and dishonesty of people like Trump revolts me and I struggle to understand anyone who thinks anything he does is more than craven self-serving for a greedy and corrupt man who has dangerous ammounts of power.

Ihatemyselfmore · 13/09/2025 19:35

I do think you, like many, are very susceptible to media influence who unfortunately have their own, and not your, best interest in mind. Many of our newspapers and media outlets are large corporations ran by millionaires and billionaires who will provide a certain narrative that benefits them.

immigration is controlled. Almost half of the British public falsely believe that there are more migrants staying in the UK illegally than legally. This misconception is fuelled by the over-representation of immigration as a topic covered in the media and promoted by politicians in an attempt to distract us from their role in maintaining inequality. The truth is that the enemy of the working class travels by private jet, not migrant dinghy.

Anti-immigrant sentiment has created a perpetual distraction from the root causes of worsening living standards, and a series of policies that have led to the perceived
'crisis' of 'illegal immigration‘

Charlie Kirk expressed he would make his daughter carry her rpst child if needed, that childrens deaths was a price worth paying for access to guns, and that if he boarded a plane with a black pilot he would question their qualifications - is this someone you align to?

it’s okay to be proud to be British, it’s not okay to use the flag to try and make others not feel welcome.

You sound mainstream right wing to me, and tbh honest (and very depressingly) I think your views reflect a growing number of people who are individualistic, gullible and pointing fingers in the wrong direction 😢

Loftyheightssss · 13/09/2025 19:36

CapriceDeDieux · 13/09/2025 19:35

Can some one please tell me who the far left are please? I really don't understand. Can you name the groups and individuals you are talking about? This is a genuine question. Also are they a coherant movement? Who are the leaders? Are their factions?

Is it Jeremy Corbyn? He just seems to have a set of views that were pretty mainstream socialism in the 70s & 80s - as in pre-New-Labour Labour. I find it bizarre if that is who we are referring to. But that said I don't find the Labour government actually promoting many Labour values as I understood them.

I do not think the terms left and right, and by extension far left and far right, or even Labour and Conservative are particularly meaningful - the rhetoric and definitions are constanty being co-opted and are in flux to the point of meaninglessness. Though, I would argue that there is a much clearer far right set of groups and figureheads and they are certainly well represented in social and mainstream media. I am struggling to think of "far left" equivalents.

As for the OP I would suggest that you are a C/conservative and therefore right wing, and influenced by further right rhetoric. The immorality and dishonesty of people like Trump revolts me and I struggle to understand anyone who thinks anything he does is more than craven self-serving for a greedy and corrupt man who has dangerous ammounts of power.

Antifa.

tgif1 · 13/09/2025 19:36

Yeah. I’d be embarrassed too.

randomchap · 13/09/2025 19:37

DarthTrick · 13/09/2025 19:23

On the contrary, f you sit down with paper and pen then write down all the values that the Nazis were supportive of you'll fail to find any 'free market, capitalism, social hierarchy, individual freedoms, and and and...' values...

The fact that academia has railed against espousing Nazis as far left for 70+ years is truly astonishing...even more so that people have assumed what they've been fed to be correct.

Take a quick look:

Removal of social structure - no hierarchy of citizens (not to be confused with Marxism) - Those in charge were not seen as 'elevated', they were simply there to hold order...see Joseph Stalin for further examples...
Destruction of those who appeared bourgeois (Jews) and removal of their wealth by framing them as the socialists enemy.
Belief that the state was correct in all matters and had its citizens interests at heart (we know this is a far left propaganda machine used for hundreds of years)
Internment or assassination of anyone who disagreed with the state and its control (straight out of the Lenin / Stalin playbook).
Spying on its own citizens and 'disappearing' those who were deemed to be problematic for the state.
Removal of free press and incorporation of national press / propaganda.
State control of industry and finance

Then write your list of 'right wing / conservative' attributes:

Minimal government / minimal government interference
Capitalism and free markets
Freedom of association
Freedom of the press
Right to free enterprise and private ownership

Hitler did exactly the same as Stalin...its just Stalin / Lenin dd it to their own people quietly behind closed borders....Hitler went next door and did it.

How did Stalin get to kill more people than Hitler but Hitler is the one considered Right Wing?

As I've mentioned elsewhere, academia since ~1950 has made an effort to distance itself from the suppressive regimes of left wing politics by reframing those perpetrators as right wing.

The Nazis hated socialism, communism and trade unions.

They enforced strict hierarchies based on race, sex, and social class

Glorified war and military strength

Rejected democracy, had a single powerful leader

They believed their race was the greatest.

All these are far right, not far left.

Thisisnotmyid · 13/09/2025 19:40

I feel exactly the same OP. I didn’t agree with everything Charlie Kirk said but I found him very respectful when he debated people. He was never rude or raised his voice and allowed people to tell their stories openly.

You’re absolutely entitled to your opinion and those who say ‘you sound awful’ etc are the ones who need give their head a shake.

CapriceDeDieux · 13/09/2025 19:40

Loftyheightssss · 13/09/2025 19:36

Antifa.

erm, lol.

ilovesooty · 13/09/2025 19:41

KhakiTiger · 13/09/2025 18:30

Everyone just read this out loud and pick out the batshittery.

Labelling people is wrong, yet someone who like a democratically elected leader of the US is a pariah.

The left always show themselves up.

Your opinion. As for showing up, I think with your rudeness you're managing that nicely for yourself.

BramStoner · 13/09/2025 19:41

I don’t think you’re far right, op, and I think people devalue the term by flinging it around too easily. I sort of half agree with some of what you said- I also think British culture is valuable and worth celebrating, I think we undervalue the work of nurturing children and should give much more respect to people (usually women) who do it, my views on abortion are “safe legal and rare” and I know plenty of people on here who would consider that to be an anti-abortion view (and I suppose it is).

OTOH I’d never heard of Charlie Kirk before the other day, I think Trump is a fraud and I’m happy to split a bill (although equally happy not to split).

I think of myself as fairly centrist and you’re not that far away from me.

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