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Am I considered far right now?

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Septemberisaweirdmonth · 13/09/2025 16:12

Years ago I would have described myself as liberal and on the left. Over recent years the things I seem to agree with seem to be considered to be on the right and even far right

Examples:

I see nothing wrong with wanting to retain British culture or the innate culture of any country and see nothing wrong with a country being proud of its flag..as many are-Spain, Usa, Portugal etc etc

Whilst I have no issue with anyone being transgender, I do not believe transgender males should play in female sports, be in female toilets, prisons etc and I don’t believe children should be given drugs to alter their gender.

I think immigration in Europe needs to be controlled.,and quickly

I would be put off a man and likely wouldn’t see him again if he asked to split the bill on a first date. I can pay the bill four times over, but that’s not the point.

I am educated to post degree status and worked full time in my career for many years until I had my dc, I then wanted to and was thankfully able to stay at home. I see nothing wrong with the man going out to work, the mum staying home, taking care of the kids and the house-if that suits everyone and they’re happy doing that. My ideal scenario now would be a nice community, homeschooling and raising kids.

I am not anti abortion completely but my stance leans more towards this angle (I don’t tell anyone this though)

I regularly watched Charlie kirk, whilst I didn’t agree with everything and i’m not hugely religious, I agreed with a lot of his points and found he made his points respectfully. I also regularly watch Piers morgan uncensored

I didn’t agree with the almost forcing of people to have the covid injection

I quite like Trump

I feel embarrassed writing all this down as I feel I can’t really say this in real life

Have I become far right?

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PinkyFlamingo · 13/09/2025 19:08

Don't agree with abortion it's simple don't have one.

JJWT · 13/09/2025 19:09

Septemberisaweirdmonth · 13/09/2025 16:12

Years ago I would have described myself as liberal and on the left. Over recent years the things I seem to agree with seem to be considered to be on the right and even far right

Examples:

I see nothing wrong with wanting to retain British culture or the innate culture of any country and see nothing wrong with a country being proud of its flag..as many are-Spain, Usa, Portugal etc etc

Whilst I have no issue with anyone being transgender, I do not believe transgender males should play in female sports, be in female toilets, prisons etc and I don’t believe children should be given drugs to alter their gender.

I think immigration in Europe needs to be controlled.,and quickly

I would be put off a man and likely wouldn’t see him again if he asked to split the bill on a first date. I can pay the bill four times over, but that’s not the point.

I am educated to post degree status and worked full time in my career for many years until I had my dc, I then wanted to and was thankfully able to stay at home. I see nothing wrong with the man going out to work, the mum staying home, taking care of the kids and the house-if that suits everyone and they’re happy doing that. My ideal scenario now would be a nice community, homeschooling and raising kids.

I am not anti abortion completely but my stance leans more towards this angle (I don’t tell anyone this though)

I regularly watched Charlie kirk, whilst I didn’t agree with everything and i’m not hugely religious, I agreed with a lot of his points and found he made his points respectfully. I also regularly watch Piers morgan uncensored

I didn’t agree with the almost forcing of people to have the covid injection

I quite like Trump

I feel embarrassed writing all this down as I feel I can’t really say this in real life

Have I become far right?

I think most people who are referred to as "far rght" are mislabelled. "Thick as mince" is more appropriate.

MyLimeGuide · 13/09/2025 19:09

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Bumblebee72 · 13/09/2025 19:10

JaneEyre40 · 13/09/2025 19:04

No....I think you may need to rephrase "most people" 🙄

Why, most people do? It's easy when your young to spend other peoples money.

MNdrama · 13/09/2025 19:10

Septemberisaweirdmonth · 13/09/2025 16:43

Totally agree! But the left now seems to flatten anyone else’s viewpoint, making people to scared to say what they feel
We can see this with the Charlie kirk tragedy

Good, they should feel scared to say these things. Pro life and anti trans rights movements are in no way conducive to a decent society, and anyone who thinks otherwise are honestly moronic

EasternStandard · 13/09/2025 19:11

BloominNora · 13/09/2025 19:04

Farage didn't invent illegal immigration but he played a huge part in causing it to skyrocket in order to get to the exact position he's in now.

If Farage and UKIP had not stoked the anti-EU sentiment which led to Brexit, we would not have pulled out of the European Return arrangements in 2018.

If he hadn't stoked anti-immigration sentiment causing the Tories to go hard on anti-immigration to claw back political ground, they wouldn't have shut down all other legal routes of seeking asylum in a bid to look tough on immigration.

Pulling out of return arrangements and closing down asylum routes directly led to the skyrocketing numbers of small boat crossings which before 2018 were tiny numbers.

Add the devastating impact of austerity on public services to increasing immigrant numbers you have the perfect bogeyman.

Now after having played a large part in creating the problem, Farage is lauding himself up as the solution. It would be beautifully poetic, if it wasn't so devastating for both immigrants and the British public.

’Return arrangements’ were incredibly low. We took more than we returned and it’s not easy to do, a few hundred a year.

UserUserUser12 · 13/09/2025 19:12

TheLizardQueen · 13/09/2025 18:35

OP I could’ve written this myself. I agree with everything you just said, except I DO like Tommy Robinson, there I said it!!

I expect you’ve often said it.

Memberofstaff · 13/09/2025 19:12

Yes. You're becoming more selfish and careful less about others in society.

sleepwouldbenice · 13/09/2025 19:12

2dogsandabudgie · 13/09/2025 18:02

Boat crossings do cause issues though. If you have over 1000 people crossing in one day they have to be accommodated somewhere. We have a huge housing problem in this country. Where are all these people supposed to go?

Yes they do which is why I said it should be lower

But the vast vast majority of perceived immigration pressures and costs are due to legal immigration. If we accepted the migration then we should invest to support it

Farage and co like to whip up hysteria to the contrary
I have no problem with reasonable moves to try to reduce boat crossings. But if they were nil they wouldn't magically improve everything
Proper investment is also needed and a genuine plan for immigration, including addressing how we would bridge the gap of reduced immigration ,( eg staffing in care sector), impact on universities, etc

Not hate filled vitriol

Memberofstaff · 13/09/2025 19:13

*care less

MyLimeGuide · 13/09/2025 19:14

JaneEyre40 · 13/09/2025 19:01

Yes. I quite like a sexual abuser? Wtf.

Interesting take! You need to stop being so narrow minded, its just politics!

sleepwouldbenice · 13/09/2025 19:14

EasternStandard · 13/09/2025 19:11

’Return arrangements’ were incredibly low. We took more than we returned and it’s not easy to do, a few hundred a year.

The deterant was there though. Now gone

TheJoyOfWriting · 13/09/2025 19:16

5128gap · 13/09/2025 18:57

I think for old school left, anything that got in the way of the fight for class/wealth equality. So you might get a traditionalist opposing immigration if it was driving down wages in WC jobs by creating a large cheap labour pool.
Or opposing green initiatives if they caused job loss in production or disproportionately impacted poorer people, such as green taxes.
Or thinking that spending money to make things inclusive in relation to gender identity was a waste when people are using food banks.
The 'luxury' bring that when not everyone has enough money to feed their family or house them, you need to put that first, and let the privileged worry about the environment, migrants rights, and gender identity.
I agree with some of this but not all.

I agree about immigration & gender identity. Re green it's v hard but otoh if nothing is done and the climate worsens significantly, poorer people would probs suffer the most.

Pallisers · 13/09/2025 19:16

Septemberisaweirdmonth · 13/09/2025 16:43

Totally agree! But the left now seems to flatten anyone else’s viewpoint, making people to scared to say what they feel
We can see this with the Charlie kirk tragedy

If you think the right isn't flattening anyone else's viewpoint you might want to think again

www.npr.org/2025/09/13/nx-s1-5538476/charlie-kirk-jobs-target-social-media-critics-resign

UserUserUser12 · 13/09/2025 19:16

TheLizardQueen · 13/09/2025 18:39

@UserUserUser12 yes I do quite like Trump. Same as I liked Charlie Kirk. I don’t have to agree with everything they said but they are patriots. The biggest thing I like about Trump is that he’s stopped men in dresses in women’s sports.

I’m gender critical but could never bring myself to support a morally devoid convicted felon and sex offender, a friend of Epstein’s who has systematically dismantled women’s reproductive rights and torn apart families and children. I could go on. His co-opting of the issue relating to women’s spaces and sports is a craven, attention grabbing tactic that has zero to do with concern for women’s spaces and bodies. Talk about throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

A large part of the reason we’re discussing him here is due to Charlie Kirk, an assassination that happened on the same day as yet another fatal school shooting and likely other gun related deaths in the US that didn’t even make the news. Trump is the figurehead of the party that refuses to put increased gun controls in place although guns are now the leading cause of death in children in the US. The leader of the party that in fact glorifies the right to bear arms and then weaponises (ha) the death by shooting of an outspoken gun advocate against the left.

I’d say you couldn’t make it up but based on recent history, you could. The fact British people are falling for it is embarrassing.

IstillloveKingThistle · 13/09/2025 19:17

LaurieFairyCake · 13/09/2025 16:31

Liking Trump makes you insane.

Have you considered seeing a doctor ?

Oh please .

Typical leftist garbage

sleepwouldbenice · 13/09/2025 19:17

politickie · 13/09/2025 19:06

From what you've said, you sound like you lean slightly right-wing on social issues. I consider myself a liberal leftist, and there are points of yours that I agree with.

I agree that British culture should be retained, and as such I'm very supportive of museums, National Trust, and the promotion of local languages. I try to buy from local brands whenever possible. I put up flag bunting around VE Day and similar celebrations, and see no problem with flying the flags except when they're being used to stoke division. Using the Union Jack and St George's Cross to stir up trouble and promote the ideal of a monoculture is actually an insult to the flag and to British values, I think.

I also have no problem with trans people! In fact, two of my best friends are transgender and I myself identify as non-binary. I'm a supporter of shared spaces where safe and possible, and third-spaces when it comes to situations like prisons, bathrooms, and sports. I believe adults should have access to gender-affirming care, but agree that hormones and surgery shouldn't be used for children. I am pro-gay marriage, as you say you are, and I'm also pro-gay adoption.

I have no issue with stay-at-home parents! I know both stay-at-home mums and stay-at-home dads and I'm glad they have the resources to do as they wish. I'm admittedly sceptical on home-schooling, as I think there are safeguarding issues, social issues and educational issues I've yet to see adequately addressed. I'm sure in some situations and for some people it works well, though.

On the other hand, I'm firmly pro-choice, anti-Trump, pro-vaccine, and pro-immigration. Some of those come with caveats; I think people should have choices around vaccination, though not without some consequences, and I am not the expert in foetal medicine I would want deciding the legal limits around abortion. I would love to see asylum hotels cleared, with the legal process sped up so we don't have people in limbo, housed in old hotels and unable to legally work. This would also allow the country to reject claims of those with known criminal histories more quickly, addressing many people's safety concerns. I think freedom of speech and opinion should be a fundamental human right but I believe there is a limit when it comes to incitement to violence. It comes down to the paradox of tolerance, where being tolerant of everything eventually leads to a society where intolerance runs rampant.

So, no I wouldn't call you "far right" at all. I think you sound right-leaning on some issues and left-leaning on others, though probably right-of-centre overall. Politics has become so polarised that there seems no room left for anyone in the middle, when realistically most people fall somewhere in that space.

Pretty much totally agree!
The extremes are really maddening me

Ymiryboo · 13/09/2025 19:18

Septemberisaweirdmonth · 13/09/2025 16:12

Years ago I would have described myself as liberal and on the left. Over recent years the things I seem to agree with seem to be considered to be on the right and even far right

Examples:

I see nothing wrong with wanting to retain British culture or the innate culture of any country and see nothing wrong with a country being proud of its flag..as many are-Spain, Usa, Portugal etc etc

Whilst I have no issue with anyone being transgender, I do not believe transgender males should play in female sports, be in female toilets, prisons etc and I don’t believe children should be given drugs to alter their gender.

I think immigration in Europe needs to be controlled.,and quickly

I would be put off a man and likely wouldn’t see him again if he asked to split the bill on a first date. I can pay the bill four times over, but that’s not the point.

I am educated to post degree status and worked full time in my career for many years until I had my dc, I then wanted to and was thankfully able to stay at home. I see nothing wrong with the man going out to work, the mum staying home, taking care of the kids and the house-if that suits everyone and they’re happy doing that. My ideal scenario now would be a nice community, homeschooling and raising kids.

I am not anti abortion completely but my stance leans more towards this angle (I don’t tell anyone this though)

I regularly watched Charlie kirk, whilst I didn’t agree with everything and i’m not hugely religious, I agreed with a lot of his points and found he made his points respectfully. I also regularly watch Piers morgan uncensored

I didn’t agree with the almost forcing of people to have the covid injection

I quite like Trump

I feel embarrassed writing all this down as I feel I can’t really say this in real life

Have I become far right?

Possibly far right. Deffo an attention seeker.

Spookyspaghetti · 13/09/2025 19:18

People from other cultures peacefully working and living their lives here doesn’t affect you having and celebrating your culture. Seeing culture as something exclusive to exclude people from, beat them with, or persecute them for accessing makes you far right and xenophobic yes.

Britan has been a place of tolerance for a long time so your identity (anti tolerance of other cultures) is not the same British identity as mine even though we are both British.

And stop listening to American BS if you believe in having your own culture. The only thing people like Musk care about is the green dollar and being idolised.

Loftyheightssss · 13/09/2025 19:19

How pathetic.do you think you'd get the left asking if the were thought of as far left. Very convenient thread.

VenusJupiter · 13/09/2025 19:20

Apparently it doesn't matter what you vote and we are headed for a one world government where you will own nothing and you will be happy?????

Problem , Reaction , Solution?????

Maybe reading further into what is really going on could help us, so we are aware of what is REALLY coming. Hmmmm

EasternStandard · 13/09/2025 19:21

IstillloveKingThistle · 13/09/2025 19:17

Oh please .

Typical leftist garbage

Agree on some of these posts

EasternStandard · 13/09/2025 19:22

sleepwouldbenice · 13/09/2025 19:14

The deterant was there though. Now gone

It wasn’t a deterrent, not here not where it’s still used by other EU countries. You’re forgetting high migration via lorry pre Brexit.

DarthTrick · 13/09/2025 19:23

randomchap · 13/09/2025 18:43

Describing the Nazis as left wing is laughable. They are the definition of far right

On the contrary, f you sit down with paper and pen then write down all the values that the Nazis were supportive of you'll fail to find any 'free market, capitalism, social hierarchy, individual freedoms, and and and...' values...

The fact that academia has railed against espousing Nazis as far left for 70+ years is truly astonishing...even more so that people have assumed what they've been fed to be correct.

Take a quick look:

Removal of social structure - no hierarchy of citizens (not to be confused with Marxism) - Those in charge were not seen as 'elevated', they were simply there to hold order...see Joseph Stalin for further examples...
Destruction of those who appeared bourgeois (Jews) and removal of their wealth by framing them as the socialists enemy.
Belief that the state was correct in all matters and had its citizens interests at heart (we know this is a far left propaganda machine used for hundreds of years)
Internment or assassination of anyone who disagreed with the state and its control (straight out of the Lenin / Stalin playbook).
Spying on its own citizens and 'disappearing' those who were deemed to be problematic for the state.
Removal of free press and incorporation of national press / propaganda.
State control of industry and finance

Then write your list of 'right wing / conservative' attributes:

Minimal government / minimal government interference
Capitalism and free markets
Freedom of association
Freedom of the press
Right to free enterprise and private ownership

Hitler did exactly the same as Stalin...its just Stalin / Lenin dd it to their own people quietly behind closed borders....Hitler went next door and did it.

How did Stalin get to kill more people than Hitler but Hitler is the one considered Right Wing?

As I've mentioned elsewhere, academia since ~1950 has made an effort to distance itself from the suppressive regimes of left wing politics by reframing those perpetrators as right wing.

ElizaMulvil · 13/09/2025 19:23

Nowherefast4 · 13/09/2025 17:56

Most migration to the UK is legal. In 2024 net migration was 431,000 down from 860,000 in 2023. Only about 40,000 people arrived irregularly and most are refugees or asylum seekers fleeing danger. Migration is not a threat, it supports the economy and public services. So the majority arrived legally... just like your FiL

Exactly.
The problems we face in schools, hospitals, housing etc are because the Conservatives / Lib Dems brought in austerity ie cutting Council budgets, cutting public and private salaries and wages and benefits ( 2 child policy) in real terms year on year until many people cannot afford to live. Hundreds of children would be taken out of poverty by abolishing this policy alone.

Ditto selling off our nationalised industries eg Water, Railways, Electricity, Gas etc so that the profits went into ( often foreign) private pockets to be hoarded off shore to avoid tax instead of being invested in improvements for the benefit of us all.

Ditto enabling poor working conditions eg fire and rehire, zero hour contracts, creating a climate of fear in the working population who therefore spend less hitting the profitability of industry.

People who are frightened, can't pay their bills often decide to postpone having children witness our dangerously low birthrate which is building up huge problems in the longer and shorter term.

We desperately need immigration for this reason. We don't have 'illegal immigration' because there is no way people ( since we left the EU) can apply for asylum until they arrive here. I believe approximately 75% of people applying for asylum are accepted. We need to speed up the system, allow people to work while they are waiting as many other countries do (heavens we have a shortage of builders, nurses, teachers etc. It doesn't make sense to keep people hanging about for years on end when we need their work.)

It is very dangerous to eg cross civil war areas in Africa, the Middle East, etc. This why it makes sense to send your fit youngish men on ahead if possible rather than subject women and children to violence, hardship of various kinds, hunger, threat of rape etc. Refugees are by definition ambitious, desperate to work hard etc. They are not our problem but possibly our salvation.

The 50 richest billionaire families in the UK own roughly the same wealth as the poorest 50% of the population. The aristocracy own a third of our land plus probably another 17% undeclared. 18% is owned by Business tycoons, more by Royal Estates. 0.6% of the UK's populations owns about 70% of the land.

We need a wealth tax of 2% on our richest ie the billionaires (who won't leave because they like it here and they would barely notice it anyway.) We don't need the freezing of tax bands, a stealth tax penalising the poorest.

Blaming immigration for our problems is just a ploy to divert our attention away from the real causes.

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