Am I considered far right now?

[Septemberisaweirdmonth]

Years ago I would have described myself as liberal and on the left. Over recent years the things I seem to agree with seem to be considered to be on the right and even far right

Examples:

I see nothing wrong with wanting to retain British culture or the innate culture of any country and see nothing wrong with a country being proud of its flag..as many are-Spain, Usa, Portugal etc etc

Whilst I have no issue with anyone being transgender, I do not believe transgender males should play in female sports, be in female toilets, prisons etc and I don’t believe children should be given drugs to alter their gender.

I think immigration in Europe needs to be controlled.,and quickly

I would be put off a man and likely wouldn’t see him again if he asked to split the bill on a first date. I can pay the bill four times over, but that’s not the point.

I am educated to post degree status and worked full time in my career for many years until I had my dc, I then wanted to and was thankfully able to stay at home. I see nothing wrong with the man going out to work, the mum staying home, taking care of the kids and the house-if that suits everyone and they’re happy doing that. My ideal scenario now would be a nice community, homeschooling and raising kids.

I am not anti abortion completely but my stance leans more towards this angle (I don’t tell anyone this though)

I regularly watched Charlie kirk, whilst I didn’t agree with everything and i’m not hugely religious, I agreed with a lot of his points and found he made his points respectfully. I also regularly watch Piers morgan uncensored

I didn’t agree with the almost forcing of people to have the covid injection

I quite like Trump

I feel embarrassed writing all this down as I feel I can’t really say this in real life

Have I become far right?

Hitler sent socialists and communists to concentration camps, nothing left about the Nazis whatsoever.

I might agree with the need to stop this
But I despise trump
And I am incredulous that you thought this was the major issue to elect him on

I guess this depends on who is in your social circle. If your social circle is more liberal leaning, then chances are they would only say this stuff online and not in real life.

Would you describe yourself as one of the 'kind ones?'

What do you mean by "what do you mean by British culture exactly"? Weird response.

*correction, some suggested the bullet didn't directly enter his neck, but richoted off a bulletproof vest. I've seen umpteen clips of it from various angles and it's hard to tell.

Anyway, he was a disgusting cretin, and, he is no longer alive.

My guess is that you read the Telegraph. My mother in law reads this newspaper and she holds a lot of the same views as you. She is someone who wishes she was a man, rather than wishing for equality for men and women. She also delights in telling me stories about where immigrants get “got” and sent “home”.

She doesn’t like Trump as that’s something that her other child would disapprove of, and she likes his approval.

But yeah, I think you should be thinking more critically. Imagine that you aren’t a white, educated English person. Is the world fair? Are the men who run the world trying to make it better, or trying to make it smoother for people like them?

I think that “right wing” people are afraid of losing power. (I don’t like the term, to be honest; or that we all have to put each other in boxes.) But are you led by fear (an immigrant might take my STUFF!) or by humanity (oh that’s another human who isn’t safe in the country they were born in)?

I think for old school left, anything that got in the way of the fight for class/wealth equality. So you might get a traditionalist opposing immigration if it was driving down wages in WC jobs by creating a large cheap labour pool.
Or opposing green initiatives if they caused job loss in production or disproportionately impacted poorer people, such as green taxes.
Or thinking that spending money to make things inclusive in relation to gender identity was a waste when people are using food banks.
The 'luxury' bring that when not everyone has enough money to feed their family or house them, you need to put that first, and let the privileged worry about the environment, migrants rights, and gender identity.
I agree with some of this but not all.

While Reform often headlines on immigration and law and order, I also support their practical and achievable fiscal policies. Raising the personal income tax allowance to £20,000 and increasing the higher rate threshold to £70,000 eases the burden on low- and middle-income earners. Abolishing stamp duty for properties under £750,000 and inheritance tax for estates below £2 million helps families and first-time buyers.
Beyond taxes, I support their plans to cut unnecessary bureaucracy, support small businesses, invest in infrastructure, and promote government accountability.

Never mind. At least you can easily therefore be called far right

Never mind. At least you can easily therefore be called far right

People were not ‘almost forced’ to have the Covid jab.

So threats of 'take the jab or lose your livelihood' - which was a very real scenario for a lot of people - wasn't in any way 'force'?

How are they going to fund these changes? Genuine question, I don’t know the ins and outs of their fiscal policy.

And what's the actual problem with that!? Genuine question.

The Far Left have been an absolute disgrace for a long time. I would associate with ANY group before them.

Yes. I quite like a sexual abuser? Wtf.

It's an interesting discussion. Being described as "far right" or "far left" requires the describer to take up a position somewhere on the political spectrum. I consider myself somewhat central but with some left leaning views and some more conservative views. However, friends on the left consider me right wing and friends on the left consider me left wing. i guess I am, in fact, the BBC.

I think we should all be allowed to state our views and to seek others' views on key topics. I think the boats need to be stopped but not because it stops "those who we do not know and who might be terrorists or rapists" from accessing our hallowed soil. But simply because it is dangerous. I have family and friends on the right who demonise those fleeing persecution and lump them in with those seeking economic advantage in an unequal world. Edit to add: worth remembering that "illegal" immigration is being weaponised by Belarus and Russia in Europe.

I have no problem with our flag, and neither does my local mosque, but I do have a problem with it being weaponised. To me "Britishness" is a melting pot of all different cultures that make up Britain. For those who talk about "indigenous", I find that difficult as Angles and Saxons were both Germanic tribes so really you'd have to be a full on 100% Briton who were pushed out by the Angles, Saxons and Jutes and latter Danes and "Normans" (also Danes).

Finding words to describe Trump. Oh dear. This man is a narcissist and I find it difficult that anyone would be convinced by that and cannot see through it. But Republican Party? Fine. Don't always agree with it but respect the difference. As to Charlie Kirk, I had not heard of him prior to his assassination. From what I have read of his views, I find they do not align with my own values but no one shoul be assassinated for having views. His poor children.

I just wish in 2025 UK and Europe and the world, we could have discussions and respect differences without throwing out "libtard" or "nazi" or "fascist" at each other at every turn.

You've moved to the right as you have grown up. Which is perfectly normal and what most people do.

People like you legitimately scare me. How anyone can have those views is frightening.

Farage didn't invent illegal immigration but he played a huge part in causing it to skyrocket in order to get to the exact position he's in now.

If Farage and UKIP had not stoked the anti-EU sentiment which led to Brexit, we would not have pulled out of the European Return arrangements in 2018.

If he hadn't stoked anti-immigration sentiment causing the Tories to go hard on anti-immigration to claw back political ground, they wouldn't have shut down all other legal routes of seeking asylum in a bid to look tough on immigration.

Pulling out of return arrangements and closing down asylum routes directly led to the skyrocketing numbers of small boat crossings which before 2018 were tiny numbers.

Add the devastating impact of austerity on public services to increasing immigrant numbers you have the perfect bogeyman.

Now after having played a large part in creating the problem, Farage is lauding himself up as the solution. It would be beautifully poetic, if it wasn't so devastating for both immigrants and the British public.

I am also far right and getting more and more so, I like Trump, I am sick of illegals and the invasion of our country. I loved Charlie Kirk RIP

No....I think you may need to rephrase "most people" 🙄

I wouldnt call it far right. I’d call it quite sensible. Probably just conservative. Not anywhere near how UKIP/BNP were.

What do you like about Donald Trump?

From what you've said, you sound like you lean slightly right-wing on social issues. I consider myself a liberal leftist, and there are points of yours that I agree with.

I agree that British culture should be retained, and as such I'm very supportive of museums, National Trust, and the promotion of local languages. I try to buy from local brands whenever possible. I put up flag bunting around VE Day and similar celebrations, and see no problem with flying the flags except when they're being used to stoke division. Using the Union Jack and St George's Cross to stir up trouble and promote the ideal of a monoculture is actually an insult to the flag and to British values, I think.

I also have no problem with trans people! In fact, two of my best friends are transgender and I myself identify as non-binary. I'm a supporter of shared spaces where safe and possible, and third-spaces when it comes to situations like prisons, bathrooms, and sports. I believe adults should have access to gender-affirming care, but agree that hormones and surgery shouldn't be used for children. I am pro-gay marriage, as you say you are, and I'm also pro-gay adoption.

I have no issue with stay-at-home parents! I know both stay-at-home mums and stay-at-home dads and I'm glad they have the resources to do as they wish. I'm admittedly sceptical on home-schooling, as I think there are safeguarding issues, social issues and educational issues I've yet to see adequately addressed. I'm sure in some situations and for some people it works well, though.

On the other hand, I'm firmly pro-choice, anti-Trump, pro-vaccine, and pro-immigration. Some of those come with caveats; I think people should have choices around vaccination, though not without some consequences, and I am not the expert in foetal medicine I would want deciding the legal limits around abortion. I would love to see asylum hotels cleared, with the legal process sped up so we don't have people in limbo, housed in old hotels and unable to legally work. This would also allow the country to reject claims of those with known criminal histories more quickly, addressing many people's safety concerns. I think freedom of speech and opinion should be a fundamental human right but I believe there is a limit when it comes to incitement to violence. It comes down to the paradox of tolerance, where being tolerant of everything eventually leads to a society where intolerance runs rampant.

So, no I wouldn't call you "far right" at all. I think you sound right-leaning on some issues and left-leaning on others, though probably right-of-centre overall. Politics has become so polarised that there seems no room left for anyone in the middle, when realistically most people fall somewhere in that space.

With age ,comes wisdom 😁