Am I considered far right now?

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Years ago I would have described myself as liberal and on the left. Over recent years the things I seem to agree with seem to be considered to be on the right and even far right

Examples:

I see nothing wrong with wanting to retain British culture or the innate culture of any country and see nothing wrong with a country being proud of its flag..as many are-Spain, Usa, Portugal etc etc

Whilst I have no issue with anyone being transgender, I do not believe transgender males should play in female sports, be in female toilets, prisons etc and I don’t believe children should be given drugs to alter their gender.

I think immigration in Europe needs to be controlled.,and quickly

I would be put off a man and likely wouldn’t see him again if he asked to split the bill on a first date. I can pay the bill four times over, but that’s not the point.

I am educated to post degree status and worked full time in my career for many years until I had my dc, I then wanted to and was thankfully able to stay at home. I see nothing wrong with the man going out to work, the mum staying home, taking care of the kids and the house-if that suits everyone and they’re happy doing that. My ideal scenario now would be a nice community, homeschooling and raising kids.

I am not anti abortion completely but my stance leans more towards this angle (I don’t tell anyone this though)

I regularly watched Charlie kirk, whilst I didn’t agree with everything and i’m not hugely religious, I agreed with a lot of his points and found he made his points respectfully. I also regularly watch Piers morgan uncensored

I didn’t agree with the almost forcing of people to have the covid injection

I quite like Trump

I feel embarrassed writing all this down as I feel I can’t really say this in real life

Have I become far right?

Is your husband paying you to keep house and raise kids? If not how are you paying into a pension?

if you’re relying on your dh to “ cover your costs” then you are in a very vulnerable position. Whislt if you divorced you would get “fair settlement” , this will in no way make up for fact that you’ve dropped form workforce. Those missing years of advancing your career and paying into pension are your long term future. Many divorce settlements will require you to work to balance the split in assets

too often SAHM focus only on child rearing stage. Yes, there is a strong argument to be a SAHM for those early years. But in that time patterns establish of dh expanding his career relieved of any real contribution to domestic load and then it is harder and harder to get back into work her kids are old enough to manage on their own. At 65 your dh will retire (yep, surly cos he’s had this wonderful career) and you’ll still be doing same grunt work for rest of your life as you have no retirement date, no pension (other than small state ) .

and don’t say you won’t divorce….you simply don’t know that…I was married 35 years before my divorce . And potentially same thing could happen if sadly he becomes long term ill, looses jobs or even, god forbid dies. Becoming seriously unwell and loosing jobs plagued much of last 20 years of my marriage. I ended up having to take sole breadwinner role. How would that work out in your family? Fortunately I worked part time for first pre school years so I could pick up the need for a living to keep roof over our heads.

The only way I would recommend to any women becoming a SAHM have is for dh to pay her a wage, (and they’d better be married) that she can pay into a pension, with job description, and agreed tenure around leaving role to go back into work when kids are older, with a fixed retirement date. And then only for a fee years in case of emergencies as above so we were flexible as a team to ensure income as coming in

as for home schooling…are you a qualified teacher? Anyone who thinks home schooling is any substitute for a schooling with its trained teachers, standard curriculum and social opportunities is deluded. And kids will pay price for that with their futures. Sure, schools are no way perfect, but I find it incredibly arrogant for a parent to say I’ll home school my kids and do a better job.

as for trump…if nothing else he is woefully stupid. We know this becuase it takes a really really stupid person to say continuously how clever and intelligent they are. Really clever and intelligent people know just how limited their knowledge is and ask stupid question all the time. Einstein, Socrates, shakespere, Bertrand Russell, bukowski all have said variations on this. never trust anyone with wisdom who brags they’re clever. and that arrogance and ignorance is probably why he thinks he can rape women, sexual harness women, hang out with paedophiles, commit corruption. And all the stupid people soak up his story that he is clever. He is greedy. Corrupt and enriching himself and his family. He does nothing for America that doesn’t line his own pocket through manipulation of policies, economy, stock markets etc.

you do know the right wing own most of media (old school or social) and you are listening to an echo chamber of right wing politics that is becoming ever more extreme stuck behind the key board warriors (including here)

id also add, it is well known that even the most left wing of youth become increasingly right wing as they age. ‘‘Twas ever thus. Just look as demographics of uk vote. Majority of people start out left wing and radical (hence the wokeness label) and end up conservative with small c once they’ve experienced world and gained wisdom and experiences. That will apply to you too. Apparently.

You’re right wing I’d say. Im somewhere in the centre and share some of your beliefs. I just don’t get how can anyone quite like Trump. The self enrichment and damage to democracy would put me off any candidate regardless of where they were on the political spectrum.

If anything you sound like a trad wife and a right wing conservative.

I don’t believe the trans issue is a right wing - left wing issue. Remember it flourished and was arguably at its peak during the last conservative government so I don’t think the left can lay claim to it, but I think anyone who prioritises the safety and dignity of women over a male’s right to enter their spaces and competitions is exercising common sense.

To me, far right is about extreme measures - violence, intimidation, aggression - and admiring those who incite it and advocate for it - Farage, Hopkins, Yaxley-Lennon, and yes, Trump, Kirk, Tate, and their ilk. None of these people are actually interested in improving the lives of citizens. They want dominance and submission. They want to ‘win’ at all cost.

I agree with most things that you’re saying and I definitely don’t think I’m right wing at all. I have no hate in me towards anyone. I’ve not heard of Charlie Kirk before and there are a lot of things I don’t agree with re Trump, like fracking. TBH I don’t follow politics so I don’t know much about his policies.
I’m very accepting towards others as long as they are accepting as well and not try to force their beliefs on others.
I believe in God and being kind to others, I also love nature, animals and cooking. I’m traditional and don’t like the woke agenda being pushed on people. Let everyone be, accept everyone the way they are, that’s what I believe. Didn’t get the covid injection either. Open to friendships with likeminded people. 💗

You understand that the Nazi party was a socialist left wing political party, and Hitler was it's leader? The fact you think Hitler was right wing is an incorrect assumption made by many many people.

Mussolini was left wing also, and we know Stalin, Mao et al were left wing.

No, but convicted in a civil case of sexually abusing E. Jean Carroll. Plenty of other reprehensible documented quotes from him, allegations and his interactions with Epstein, however.

Right or far right? If far right, why?

OP I could’ve written this myself. I agree with everything you just said, except I DO like Tommy Robinson, there I said it!!

The irony.

Dominance and submission is a left wing requirement...comply with the world view or be cancelled, executed, sent to a Gulag. Nothing right wing about that at all.

See also; East Germany 1947 to 1991...

You also ‘quite like Trump’ too? Which bits?

The Nazis were not socialists – Full Fact

What is ‘woke’? My mother bandies this word about but when I ask her what she means she can’t define it. I guess that’s the outcome of getting your ‘truth’ from the Daily Mail.

You have labelled someone a 'ghastly human being'. Someone horrifically murdered.

You didn't have to tell us you were 'on the left' your comments speak for themselves.

You are allowed to disagree with someone's beliefs without calling them 'ghastly'.

Apart from Charlie Kirk (who I had never heard of until this week) and willingly watching Piers Morgan (I don't watch him because of his arrogance, rather than his views), I honestly could have written this!

It's sad to now be thought of as 'right-wing' when my views really haven't changed that much from the 80s leftie upbringing I had.

Sorry, I meant crack on, not jog on in my previous reply. The pressure it’s putting on public services is down to the failure of successive governments to invest in anything other than their own best interests… why blame the small boat people. You say that it’s unfair to those who come here legally, but what are they supposed to do when there are no legal channels for them? Where was the outrage when Ukrainians wanted to come here? They were fleeing war… so are the people in Afghanistan, including those that helped the British and then not only got left behind, but had their personal details left in tact in the embassy for the taliban to find.

The pressure on housing is due to multiple factors that would exist even if they weren’t coming here. Council houses were sold off… nothing was built to replace them. New properties that get built are made available to overseas investors rather than just to people that actually live in this country. Air bnb has been allowed to proliferate whereas it should be abolished. Massive housing blocks get built with almost no social housing included. Successive governments have underfunded at every turn. It beggars belief that people can seriously believe that the guy that gave us Brexit (and look how well that’s turned out) could change this country for the better.If Brexit hasn’t demonstrated to you that the man chats out of his backside, then I guess only Reform winning a general election will. At which point, of course, it will be too late but no worries… I’m sure we can find some minority group or other to blame.

Really? Do enlighten me….

Woke imo is people who pretend they care very deeply about trendy topics yet mock and attack people who disagree.

Very contrary.

I've no idea if the minutiae of the nazi party proves they were right or left wing but full fact is about as reliable and unbiased as bbc fact check imo.

This is because far left ideology has become seen as centre - it’s just been dressed up a bit

@UserUserUser12 yes I do quite like Trump. Same as I liked Charlie Kirk. I don’t have to agree with everything they said but they are patriots. The biggest thing I like about Trump is that he’s stopped men in dresses in women’s sports.

I can't get past liking trump. For fucks sake.

Trump can be admired for making America his first priority. Targetting some of the gangs and migration.
The rest though: Very unlikeable. His rule by decree makes him seem medieval. Even our Tudors were constrained in some ways.
He has lost several Court cases and refuses to pay up.

Like most of Europe I support abortion and oppose the death penalty.
My opinion is that the OP is right of centre.

But this is not true. He’s a total narcissistic liar. If you believe that he’s actually doing anything to improve any aspect of the world then you not checking your sources or applying critical thinking. Follow the USA in more detail - eg historian Heather Cox Richardson on fb and you would get a more realistic view of what is happening there / how terrifying and divisive it is - and it will frighten you for the future of the UK too if we let the same division happen here. It should haul every thinking person back to the centre ground.

Quick google search and you can many examples that support this view -free feel to do some of your own research.