Am I considered far right now?

[Septemberisaweirdmonth]

Years ago I would have described myself as liberal and on the left. Over recent years the things I seem to agree with seem to be considered to be on the right and even far right

Examples:

I see nothing wrong with wanting to retain British culture or the innate culture of any country and see nothing wrong with a country being proud of its flag..as many are-Spain, Usa, Portugal etc etc

Whilst I have no issue with anyone being transgender, I do not believe transgender males should play in female sports, be in female toilets, prisons etc and I don’t believe children should be given drugs to alter their gender.

I think immigration in Europe needs to be controlled.,and quickly

I would be put off a man and likely wouldn’t see him again if he asked to split the bill on a first date. I can pay the bill four times over, but that’s not the point.

I am educated to post degree status and worked full time in my career for many years until I had my dc, I then wanted to and was thankfully able to stay at home. I see nothing wrong with the man going out to work, the mum staying home, taking care of the kids and the house-if that suits everyone and they’re happy doing that. My ideal scenario now would be a nice community, homeschooling and raising kids.

I am not anti abortion completely but my stance leans more towards this angle (I don’t tell anyone this though)

I regularly watched Charlie kirk, whilst I didn’t agree with everything and i’m not hugely religious, I agreed with a lot of his points and found he made his points respectfully. I also regularly watch Piers morgan uncensored

I didn’t agree with the almost forcing of people to have the covid injection

I quite like Trump

I feel embarrassed writing all this down as I feel I can’t really say this in real life

Have I become far right?

This!

It’s embarrassing the number of people on here who don’t see the nuance with all the issues and follow the TikTok accepted view of life.

You don't sound far right to me OP. You sound a little bit left and a little bit right so overall centrist.

IMO most people are centrist but that's boring and doesn't translate into clicks so everything has to be pushed as either far right or far left these days 🙄

You could be a trans masc non binary lesbian them who builds homes for refugees with your own hands (when you're not campaigning for Palestinians or knitting tents for the homeless) but if you also quite like Trump then you're 'far right' and you should hang your head in shame. 😂

I don't know why you needed to tell me.

The OP says she agrees with Charlie and likes Trump, so I asked what she likes and agrees with.

I have listened to plenty from both and know what they stand for.

I'd say you're right wing, yes. Moving towards far right.

If you find yourself agreeing with Farage or Yaxley-Lennon, you're far right.

People can lose their liberal support for others as they age. You are not alone in this, although I hope I'm still left-wing as an OAP.

It's not that you have become far right, but rather that there has arisen a new level of wickedness, replacing what used to be the far left.

Just look at the vile, vile people rejoicing in the murder of a young man, who, if you actually listen to what he said (rather than taking his comments out of context), you would know he desired the best for everyone around him.
The level of vitriol shown by people who are rejoicing in his violent and merciless death is not something you would have seen by the far left even years ago, they would have understood how degenerate such behaviour is, but they've been so completely replaced that those who have taken their place rejoice without shame. Its a new level of wickedness. Don't be ashamed for having views that reflect your love for your neighbour, the shame lies with those who are filled with hate.

@SeptemberisaweirdmonthWhat do you mean by “British culture”? I keep asking this and nobody can ever say.

I think Hitler and Mussolini might have been considered far left.

Hitler? You mean Stalin?

Don't you live here?

Just Google it, lots of comments and definitions .

Ok so you're not a SAHM. You work part time. So why are you saying they are superior, or you feel the need to stick up for them?

Oh dear another trump triggered sheep

No you aren’t! I think that we’ve moved into a time where if you have the audacity to question anyone else you are called an “ist”. I feel the same as you- I have a very live and let live attitude to life, have always been brought up to be kind and empathetic and then look at what is going on in this country I’m horrified. I grew up at a seaside town and boats are turning up there on a weekly basis full of foreign men, wearing fashionable sports gear with mobile phones etc who run off on landing. It’s terrifying.

it has nothing to do with the colour of peoples skin - it’s too do with their intentions. Are they here to better this country?

As a point of information, I am very much of the left and I think Charlie Kirk was a ghastly
human being. This does not mean I don’t think his assassination was an appalling crime and a tragedy for his family and friends. And I definitely don’t think he deserved it. And I don’t know anyone who celebrated his death.

I mean they might be saying this but politically motivated murders are more likely to be commited by right wing extremists. The data doesn't suggest 'the left' are more violent.

Yes.

You like Trump? What exactly do you like about him?

people are not ‘almost forced’ to have the Covid jab.

Kirk was not respectful at all in any of the videos I’ve seen of him ‘debating’.

You lean towards being ‘anti-abortion’.

What about the DDR? They were pretty far left from what I remember.

Why don't you explain that? "Ultra basic" ..what does that mean? That the opinions she has expressed are fairly basic and normal?
And wrt your accusation that she's susceptible to media influence, I fear you may need to consider the fact that if you are so openly comfortable to impress your snap judgments upon a person based on them having completely normal opinions, instead of having an open conversation...you might just be susceptible to the media you consume yourself.

At this point in time I'd much rather be called far right than far left.

I only see people doubting we have a culture here. Presumably people accept other countries do.

Hitler formed the Nazi party, the largest socialist workers party of it's time...so far left you'd fall off the edge of a flat earth...

The reason everyone believes Nazis to be right wing is due to post war academic academics realising that their values aligned quite closely to those of pre-war Germany / Italy. This was frowned upon and not wanted by those institutions pushing left wing agendas. Therefore we had about 20-30 years of higher education establishments repositioning Hitler/Mussolini et al as right wing based on their treatment of sections of society in POW camps.

As for Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot... we'll just have to agree that left wing is responsible for a massive death toll over the years...😥

Everyone just read this out loud and pick out the batshittery.

Labelling people is wrong, yet someone who like a democratically elected leader of the US is a pariah.

The left always show themselves up.

Apologies - it is not meant to be dismissive. I too have concerns about immigration but I don't blame it for our current malaise and I see it as much more complicated than is presented by Reform who campaign on a single issue as if that will solve everything.

You say other parties have had decades. They haven't. This issue is massively exacerbated post Brexit. There are also significant external factors which are contributing to immigration, climate change being one of them.

To the left wing yes you are far right, but in essence it's right wing, far right is bandied about as a insult, I see on a local FB page for a area near where I look if you don't agree with the page admin & their religious leanings you range from Zionist, right wing & Nazi some times all 3 which I find ironic. Your views are your views & you are red entitled to believe what you want. Weather folks like it or not

It makes you a realist, someone with common sense. Fully agree with what you’re saying, never be ashamed, own it!!

I share your views on this fully. The union guy at Oxford celebrating his death sickened me to my core. There has been so many ppl on mumsnet in the last 24hrs also celebrating his death its crazy scary!