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Am I considered far right now?

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Septemberisaweirdmonth · 13/09/2025 16:12

Years ago I would have described myself as liberal and on the left. Over recent years the things I seem to agree with seem to be considered to be on the right and even far right

Examples:

I see nothing wrong with wanting to retain British culture or the innate culture of any country and see nothing wrong with a country being proud of its flag..as many are-Spain, Usa, Portugal etc etc

Whilst I have no issue with anyone being transgender, I do not believe transgender males should play in female sports, be in female toilets, prisons etc and I don’t believe children should be given drugs to alter their gender.

I think immigration in Europe needs to be controlled.,and quickly

I would be put off a man and likely wouldn’t see him again if he asked to split the bill on a first date. I can pay the bill four times over, but that’s not the point.

I am educated to post degree status and worked full time in my career for many years until I had my dc, I then wanted to and was thankfully able to stay at home. I see nothing wrong with the man going out to work, the mum staying home, taking care of the kids and the house-if that suits everyone and they’re happy doing that. My ideal scenario now would be a nice community, homeschooling and raising kids.

I am not anti abortion completely but my stance leans more towards this angle (I don’t tell anyone this though)

I regularly watched Charlie kirk, whilst I didn’t agree with everything and i’m not hugely religious, I agreed with a lot of his points and found he made his points respectfully. I also regularly watch Piers morgan uncensored

I didn’t agree with the almost forcing of people to have the covid injection

I quite like Trump

I feel embarrassed writing all this down as I feel I can’t really say this in real life

Have I become far right?

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WishinAndHopin · 13/09/2025 18:06

CelestialFilly · 13/09/2025 17:45

Am I considered far right now?

No, you just sound like the typical, angry working class.

These threads are becoming more prevalent on MN, it's a much less supportive place these days with posts seemingly engineered to create ugliness and spite.

What happened to the reasoned, progressive MN? Are there any of us left who don't wish to argue about tabloid topics? It is as if the gutter press tell people what to believe, what to think and what to argue about, and the people OBEY.

I don't know whether to laugh or cry.
Many middle class values and beliefs are now considered woke.
I am not embarrassed to be in that bracket.

We can have a conversation about why the current shape of immigration is concerning without throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

And what's with all of the anti education rhetoric recently?

It's like Murdoch Towers around here these days.

Banging on about how reasoned and progressive you are, while openly expressing bigotry, intolerance and a sense of superiority toward those you consider a lesser social class.

MovingBird123 · 13/09/2025 18:07

Only according to the illiberal left...

thedramaQueen · 13/09/2025 18:07

Bumblebee72 · 13/09/2025 17:58

Responses like this just prove the point the poster was making. To the left if you're not willing to share all your money with them, you must be a Nazi.

There is a massive difference of opinion within the left! They don't all think like that - and suggesting they do is just as bad as the previous poster. Just as there are differences of opinion within the right. This left right nonsense is getting nowhere and is so unhelpful. And I'm not saying it started with you - we're all guilty of it from time to time - but it's getting out of hand.

youalright · 13/09/2025 18:07

I think like most people your somewhere in the middle but people like to label it then argue with you about it

Chiseltip · 13/09/2025 18:08

Septemberisaweirdmonth · 13/09/2025 16:12

Years ago I would have described myself as liberal and on the left. Over recent years the things I seem to agree with seem to be considered to be on the right and even far right

Examples:

I see nothing wrong with wanting to retain British culture or the innate culture of any country and see nothing wrong with a country being proud of its flag..as many are-Spain, Usa, Portugal etc etc

Whilst I have no issue with anyone being transgender, I do not believe transgender males should play in female sports, be in female toilets, prisons etc and I don’t believe children should be given drugs to alter their gender.

I think immigration in Europe needs to be controlled.,and quickly

I would be put off a man and likely wouldn’t see him again if he asked to split the bill on a first date. I can pay the bill four times over, but that’s not the point.

I am educated to post degree status and worked full time in my career for many years until I had my dc, I then wanted to and was thankfully able to stay at home. I see nothing wrong with the man going out to work, the mum staying home, taking care of the kids and the house-if that suits everyone and they’re happy doing that. My ideal scenario now would be a nice community, homeschooling and raising kids.

I am not anti abortion completely but my stance leans more towards this angle (I don’t tell anyone this though)

I regularly watched Charlie kirk, whilst I didn’t agree with everything and i’m not hugely religious, I agreed with a lot of his points and found he made his points respectfully. I also regularly watch Piers morgan uncensored

I didn’t agree with the almost forcing of people to have the covid injection

I quite like Trump

I feel embarrassed writing all this down as I feel I can’t really say this in real life

Have I become far right?

Wanting a man to pay for a date is tantamount to prostitution. You're basically saying they have to pay you for your time . . .

UserUserUser12 · 13/09/2025 18:08

MyLimeGuide · 13/09/2025 18:01

I haven't seen this video it sounds hilarious have you got the link?

Yep. Here you go. He’s posted so much batshit craziness since then it feels normal at this point. I believe it was actually created by other content creators as satire, but Trump thought it was great and so decided to post it.

truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/114068387897265338

Rallentanda · 13/09/2025 18:09

Innate British culture...christ you can just imagine the bronze age folk getting all up in arms about the beaker people and how their pottery doesn't respect traditional forms...

withgraceinmyheart · 13/09/2025 18:10

Newsenmum · 13/09/2025 16:41

All of it was understandable until you said you “quite like Trump”. He is a convicted rapist and quite clearly a paedophile. He has also been acting illegally since taking office (I have friends in America telling me this).

Has he been convicted of rape? I know there’s a huge volume of women who’ve made accusations but I can’t see anything about him being prosecuted or convicted?

(Not defending him on any level or any way)

MyLimeGuide · 13/09/2025 18:11

theDudesmummy · 13/09/2025 18:05

It's interesting that a general belief is the people move further to the right as they age, but I have moved the opposite way. I have always been a socialist, but I would die on left wing hills with even more passion these days. I find myself getting angrier and angrier at the move to the right of some of the western world. (Leaving trans issues out of it all, of course, which are a complete red herring, and should not be labelled right or left).

I also would really really like the answer to the question about exactly what it is that you "quite like" about the greedy narcissist sex offender Trump.

Trans ideology is fully left im afraid. She did comment on what she likes about trump - at 5.13 or 14, she agreed with a post i wrote about some of the good things we think he has done.

GeneralPeter · 13/09/2025 18:11

Lunalara · 13/09/2025 17:19

I said very clearly that not everyone is celebrating his death. Mumsnet seems to be much more reasonable in general than most other places re this topic. My boyfriend, his friend, and loads of others than I knew from uni are saying that it is fair game to kill people who are on the right.

It's very worrying. In the US actual partisan violence is higher on the right, but support for partisan violence (e.g. % of people who say murdering or committing reckless arson for their politics) is higher on the left than on the right, and higher amongst the better-educated than the lesser-educated. About 2-3% support partisan murder in principle, slightly higher amongst Dems than Republicans.

What's perhaps more worrying (or maybe reassuring, depending which way you think about it!) is that each side massively over-estimates how much the other side supports partisan violence, by about 20x over. There is a complete disconnect between how the average leftist feels, and how the right perceives them, and vice versa. (Right tends to be better at understanding left beliefs than vice versa, though I don't know if that's a temperament difference or just that left beliefs are more visible taught in schools, colleges, institutions).

cloudycheese · 13/09/2025 18:12

The KKK and Hitler were ‘far right’ but the term gets thrown around now as an insult to shut down conversation. Sometimes people can engage with ideas outside of their own echo chamber (happens every day on MN) so they resort to insults.

I’d say your views were right of centre. They mostly match mine although I’d don’t mind going halves on a date!

HPFA · 13/09/2025 18:12

On the far right rally in London Elon Musk is openly inciting violence, one speaker says that mosques and temples should be banned, an attendee speaking to camera has called for Keir Starmer to be assassinated.

But sure, the attendees have "legitimate concerns."

Anyahyacinth · 13/09/2025 18:14

Septemberisaweirdmonth · 13/09/2025 16:12

Years ago I would have described myself as liberal and on the left. Over recent years the things I seem to agree with seem to be considered to be on the right and even far right

Examples:

I see nothing wrong with wanting to retain British culture or the innate culture of any country and see nothing wrong with a country being proud of its flag..as many are-Spain, Usa, Portugal etc etc

Whilst I have no issue with anyone being transgender, I do not believe transgender males should play in female sports, be in female toilets, prisons etc and I don’t believe children should be given drugs to alter their gender.

I think immigration in Europe needs to be controlled.,and quickly

I would be put off a man and likely wouldn’t see him again if he asked to split the bill on a first date. I can pay the bill four times over, but that’s not the point.

I am educated to post degree status and worked full time in my career for many years until I had my dc, I then wanted to and was thankfully able to stay at home. I see nothing wrong with the man going out to work, the mum staying home, taking care of the kids and the house-if that suits everyone and they’re happy doing that. My ideal scenario now would be a nice community, homeschooling and raising kids.

I am not anti abortion completely but my stance leans more towards this angle (I don’t tell anyone this though)

I regularly watched Charlie kirk, whilst I didn’t agree with everything and i’m not hugely religious, I agreed with a lot of his points and found he made his points respectfully. I also regularly watch Piers morgan uncensored

I didn’t agree with the almost forcing of people to have the covid injection

I quite like Trump

I feel embarrassed writing all this down as I feel I can’t really say this in real life

Have I become far right?

I'd say you had reactionary regressive views that infringed on the rights of others

BluesBird19764 · 13/09/2025 18:14

Of course you are entitled to your opinion but the fact you are posting these opinions anonymously and admit to being embarrassed tells you everything you need to know.

HuckleberryBlackcurrant · 13/09/2025 18:14

I could have written this, except for I don't like Trump or Piers Morgan (arrogant and loves the sound of his own voice). I live in the US and have done for 10 yrs, and while Trump is better than the alternative and has done good for the country, as a person he is utterly morally bankrupt.

MyLimeGuide · 13/09/2025 18:15

Lunalara · 13/09/2025 17:19

I said very clearly that not everyone is celebrating his death. Mumsnet seems to be much more reasonable in general than most other places re this topic. My boyfriend, his friend, and loads of others than I knew from uni are saying that it is fair game to kill people who are on the right.

Thats literally mental!!!!

Hermanina · 13/09/2025 18:15

Your choices and thoughts are very conservative, but I wouldn’t call this far right as you sound fairly accepting of other people‘s views. Not quite sure how you can like Trump as he is so extreme and vilifies everyone with a different viewpoint?

Wilfulignoranceabounds · 13/09/2025 18:15

Pinepeak2434 · 13/09/2025 17:58

Instead of getting angry and attacking me, it would be more productive to read my responses throughout this thread, where I’ve clearly explained my reasoning.

I’m not attacking you. Jog on. Have at it.

OneDearWasp · 13/09/2025 18:16

So, controlling immigration. Whether you are Far Right or not depends how and why you want to control immigration.

By control I'm assuming you mean reduce but I apologise if that's not what you mean.

Why reduce? Because you think there's a conspiracy to take over the west? Because you think the population should be stabilised? Because you believe pressures on housing and health etc would be reduced? Because you think our culture is under threat? Because you believe the majority of migrants are potential criminals? Do you believe that the remaining population would be better off? Do you just mean irregular arrivals?

How reduce? Sink the boats? Send them all back somewhere? Repatriate legal and settled migrants? Stop all visas? Stop most student visas? Pay more tax for health and social care? Increase ststw retirement age?

These aren't exhaustive lists. I'm suggesting that "Controlling Immigration" is too simple a phrase and without some detail you could well be Far right.

MrsKeats · 13/09/2025 18:17

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CurlewKate · 13/09/2025 18:17

Sounds pretty right wing to me. And I find it hard to believe you were ever on the left.

DiscoBob · 13/09/2025 18:19

ThatCyanCat · 13/09/2025 17:19

As for the others, definitely right wing. Maybe not far right. The stuff about wanting a man you've never met before to pay for your dinner. That just seems old fashioned and sexist.

Is it political, though?

Not really, no. It's conservative and old fashioned.

TalkAboutASpicyMeatball · 13/09/2025 18:19

You haven't become far right OP, I'm pretty similar to you and I know myself and that I'm not "far" anything.. Although I'm not really familiar with Charlie Kirk, other than he's a conservative Christian who was murdered.

The problem is that people spend too much time online and their opinions have become more and more extreme, coupled with the fact they're no longer able to disagree with people so if someone doesn't agree with their stance then 'they must be a Nazi'.
A lot of people have become intolerant and polarised, so the average person, who had middle of the road, common sense and doesn't live their entire lives online opinions have been left confused.

Social media has done something terrible to people's minds and to our society.

People on MN think they're superior to other types of social media but they're just as bad, in fact probably worse, because they come with a hefty superiority complex on top of everything else 😂 this is my first time on here in aaages and it's as bad as I remembered. The fact that you've had people ask you to clarify what you mean by British culture tells me everything I need to know about them and it's pathetic.

lifeonmars100 · 13/09/2025 18:19

Everythingwillbeokeventually44 · 13/09/2025 17:58

No, not at all, just a clear minded individual who lives in the real world.

And likes Trump? It is beyond me how anyone other than a fully paid up MAGA supporter can still back Trump. Hope those in this country who are "clear minded" enjoy the state visit next week, it is going to be a tricky few days for the UK I think. Wish the Epstein files would be released but he would only say "fake news"

CoffeeLipstickKeys · 13/09/2025 18:20

Far right, not so sure. Right wing. Yes. Lacking in critical thinking,yes. basic, yes
And you measure a man character by whether or not he pays for your dinner?Man who Treats you like a pwincess, his possession that he pays for

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