To be alarmed at the number of women who are throwing support behind causes that are clearly anti-woman?

[DorothyGaleFromKansas]

With the recent threads about flags/immigrants and Charlie Kirk etc, there seem to be a bewildering number of women supporting causes that directly go against their own interests, and it’s baffling and frankly a bit disturbing.

Reform have voted against tougher laws on stalking, sexual harassment and upskirting, against clamping down on revenge porn, and against further protections in the workplace. Farage cited Andrew Tate as “an important voice for men”.

Then you have Trump, who was found to have committed rape, forced himself into changing rooms where teenagers were undressing, made sexual comments about his own daughter, not to mention 34 other felonies, and that’s before we even get to the Epstein files.

Charlie Kirk said that women should only vote if they were voting for the candidate chosen by their husband, that women shouldn’t go on to higher education unless it was to find a husband, that women should have to submit to their husbands, and that little girls as young as 9 or 10 including his own daughters should be forced to give birth to babies conceived as a result of rape.

What has happened to us that there are so many women willing to endorse attitudes like this? And how do we fix it?! How have we sunk so low that there are women who think this is what we all deserve? It’s terrifying.

How is a built like a brick shithouse male 'vulnerable' simply because he put on a dress? How? You're basically saying the fox is more vulnerable than the hen. You've been brainwashed by a Mens Rights ideology. Males are not at all in the slightest 'vulnerable' because they're in a dress instead of a suit and tie or jeans and shirt. You're taking the piss by suggesting a fully intact huge male is 'vulnerable' based on what he wears. Women have had enough of your transmaiden pandering.

You know who actually are vulnerable? FEMALES.

No male is vulnerable.

That's not very many in fairness.

As the original point i was responding to was about posters on here, then obviously the starting point for discussion would be what's happening here rather than all of the internet, no?

I think you need to take that up with that specific group. I for one have never heard of them

Well no it addresses the point of the original post at the same time.

MALES peeing in female bathrooms. You still can't even get it right.

No it doesn’t. It means you’ve seen something on the internet you disagree with. It says nothing about the wider community of GC feminists.

But while we’re on sweeping generalisations, do you acknowledge that the trans “rights” movement has a misogyny problem and a violent rhetoric problem?

Many did thankfully. But it was concerning the number of followers supported Kirk. On digging deeper it appears they aren't the only feminist group supporting him so possibly representative of a bigger issue.

It’s been pointed out soo many times on this thread but let’s repeat it again for the hard of thinking.

The majority of males wouldn’t harm you, but they all have to stay out as you can’t ignore that of the violent and sexual crimes that occur, 98% are committed by males. Trans women are not a separate category as they are male, and commit crime also. AGAIN, that’s not the same as saying all males will harm you and commit crime or all trans women will harm you and commit crime. The majority don’t.

Stating you are something you are not and never will be doesn’t mean you should just throw away safeguarding measures as we know it because you want to be kind and treat trans people as some homogeneous group.

You are statistically very unlikely to be burgled in your lifetime but you still lock your doors, have alarms etc. Safeguarding is for the tiny minority who may harm you, not for the majority who won’t.

It’s MALES. Nice ones, bad ones, trans identifying ones, migrant ones, my nice neighbour. When you can tell who will harm you just by looking at them from the ones who won’t, please let me and my colleagues who work in criminal justice know. We, and women everywhere, would be eternally grateful.

Of course it does. They aren't the only feminist group supporting him. I dont understand how you can say that.

endorse, support and defend racist, misogynist bigots like Trump and Kirk

No one is endorsing, supporting or defending them. No one. Its a false narrative in search of an argument.

You cannot claim to be a feminist and say sticking feathers on a fox and putting him in the hen house is ok.

And using the term 'frothing' belies your true, hateful misogynistic agenda.

But while we’re on sweeping generalisations, do you acknowledge that the trans “rights” movement has a misogyny problem and a violent rhetoric problem?

Absolutely!

I can give you plenty of examples @Willyoujustbequiet if that will help you make your mind up. As far as whether it’s a credible threat goes, there was a school shooting by a trans identified male a few weeks ago, and it looks like Kirk’s killer may be mired in gender identity ideology too.

Exactly.

Ok, thanks, I was enlarging on my point. Who is the greatest threat though, men of all political persuasions spewing violent rhetoric online, or gender critical feminists who express support for people to be able to have debates? Because that’s what we’re talking about here.

I know so many are obsessed witb virtue signalling and being accepted, they'll go with anything that trends. Not reading beyond the headline.
Sick old goats running the world.

You literally cannot slander the dead.

People have talked about me as if I “support” Trump and Kirk. I do not. I support some of the legislation Trump has enacted in the same way that I would support legislation for water to be made available if his political opponents banned it.

I think you've misunderstood me completely.

Yes our posts crossed @Willyoujustbequiet. My question stands though. Individual gender critical feminists may have decided freedom of speech (in this country rather than the US) and the ability to talk about contentious topics is important and in doing so have rejected left wing politics as it currently exists. But male violence isn’t the fault of women. Who poses the greater threat, radicalised men of whatever stripe, or gender critical women with opinions?

Or are we back to “if you don’t vote Labour/Democrats you’re responsible for Reform/Tories/Trump”?

Yes I think we are singing from the same hymn sheet lol.

Always men.

A better question would be why left wing parties are adopting such absurd policies which are deeply unpopular with the electorate, based on a few privileged men’s whims? Why are they alienating people with nonsense?