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To be alarmed at the number of women who are throwing support behind causes that are clearly anti-woman?

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DorothyGaleFromKansas · 13/09/2025 13:18

With the recent threads about flags/immigrants and Charlie Kirk etc, there seem to be a bewildering number of women supporting causes that directly go against their own interests, and it’s baffling and frankly a bit disturbing.

Reform have voted against tougher laws on stalking, sexual harassment and upskirting, against clamping down on revenge porn, and against further protections in the workplace. Farage cited Andrew Tate as “an important voice for men”.

Then you have Trump, who was found to have committed rape, forced himself into changing rooms where teenagers were undressing, made sexual comments about his own daughter, not to mention 34 other felonies, and that’s before we even get to the Epstein files.

Charlie Kirk said that women should only vote if they were voting for the candidate chosen by their husband, that women shouldn’t go on to higher education unless it was to find a husband, that women should have to submit to their husbands, and that little girls as young as 9 or 10 including his own daughters should be forced to give birth to babies conceived as a result of rape.

What has happened to us that there are so many women willing to endorse attitudes like this? And how do we fix it?! How have we sunk so low that there are women who think this is what we all deserve? It’s terrifying.

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Plastictreees · 18/09/2025 21:24

nomas · 18/09/2025 21:15

I’ve noticed this too, people reporting every single post of someone they disagree with, desperately hoping one will stick.

Edited

If this isn’t censorship then what is?! Hilarious!

BunfightBetty · 18/09/2025 21:24

Plastictreees · 18/09/2025 21:05

Nah. You just report posts that call you out, rather than form a coherent debate. Free speech for all apart from those who disagree with you!

Absolutely laughable hypocrisy 🤣🤣

I didn’t report you, I didn’t see your comment. Someone else must have reported, or else MN are watching the thread. I got an email from MN to say you’d replied and when I clicked to read it, it took me to the deleted comment.

Did you say something very naughty?

nomas · 18/09/2025 21:26

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 18/09/2025 21:20

‘Thank goodness for some sanity on what has sadly become an echo chamber cess pit of a thread.’

@Plastictreees yet here you still are, scolding.

It’s hilarious that people always make this inane remark to someone they disagree with.

Why not tell the people tagging Plastictrees to pack it in.

Plastictreees · 18/09/2025 21:27

DorothyGaleFromKansas · 18/09/2025 21:19

I mean, it’s very Charlie Kirk and Donald Trump, and they all love the two of them, so at least they are on brand Grin

Yes! Something that is consistent at least. 40 pages in and we are still none the wiser as to how people can support bigots like Trump and Kirk and also claim to be feminists. It’s a perfect example of cognitive dissonance. And utter hypocrisy.

TheKeatingFive · 18/09/2025 21:27

Plastictreees · 18/09/2025 21:24

If this isn’t censorship then what is?! Hilarious!

Oh fgs, just post within guidelines and you'll be fine.

I didn't see your post either. MN will give you an explanation if you follow up.

BunfightBetty · 18/09/2025 21:27

DorothyGaleFromKansas · 18/09/2025 21:19

I mean, it’s very Charlie Kirk and Donald Trump, and they all love the two of them, so at least they are on brand Grin

I’m only one voice in this thread but I can’t stand Kirk or Trump. I’m a centre left voter.

I also despise dick-pandering misogyny, so currently that leaves me politically homeless in the UK, such is the dire calibre of our current political class.

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 18/09/2025 21:28

DorothyGaleFromKansas · 18/09/2025 21:19

I mean, it’s very Charlie Kirk and Donald Trump, and they all love the two of them, so at least they are on brand Grin

‘Women who refused to be bullied by us into believing that people can change sex are all right wing and LOVE Donald Trump’.

JFC can you hear yourself? You sound like a stroppy 12 year old who can’t form a coherent argument so falls back on name calling. It isn’t even original, we’ve heard it all before, and it’s actually really boring.

nomas · 18/09/2025 21:29

BunfightBetty · 18/09/2025 21:24

I didn’t report you, I didn’t see your comment. Someone else must have reported, or else MN are watching the thread. I got an email from MN to say you’d replied and when I clicked to read it, it took me to the deleted comment.

Did you say something very naughty?

What a creepy turn of phrase. Naughty 🤮

Plastictreees · 18/09/2025 21:30

nomas · 18/09/2025 21:29

What a creepy turn of phrase. Naughty 🤮

🤣🤣🤣🤣

Plastictreees · 18/09/2025 21:30

Thank you @DorothyGaleFromKansas for the thread. It has been illuminating!

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 18/09/2025 21:31

Plastictreees · 18/09/2025 21:24

If this isn’t censorship then what is?! Hilarious!

It seems that you don’t understand the meaning of the words ‘censorship’ or ‘free speech’. This board is moderated by @mnhq not by the posters, when you sign up, you agree to abide by their rules, break them and you get deleted. Simples.

Plastictreees · 18/09/2025 21:31

nomas · 18/09/2025 21:26

It’s hilarious that people always make this inane remark to someone they disagree with.

Why not tell the people tagging Plastictrees to pack it in.

Edited

Nah, they love a pile on and to bully people off threads. It’s not worked in this case 😘

nomas · 18/09/2025 21:32

TheKeatingFive · 18/09/2025 21:27

Oh fgs, just post within guidelines and you'll be fine.

I didn't see your post either. MN will give you an explanation if you follow up.

It depends on who is moderating. Some of the mods are more zealous than other. So one day you may say someone’s post is full of ignorance and it gets reported and deleted, but another day it doesn’t get deleted.

Knowing Plastictrees posts, the chances of her saying anything offensive are nil.

Talkinpeace · 18/09/2025 21:33

Plastictreees · 18/09/2025 21:31

Nah, they love a pile on and to bully people off threads. It’s not worked in this case 😘

Only MNHQ can take people off a thread.

I was barred for several years.
It is not down to any, or many, posters
who gets deleted.

Its down to the moderators who implement the rules
get over yourself

decenteringmen · 18/09/2025 21:34

I don't have time to coddle women who defend misogynist men, not anymore. I leave them to it. They can find out the hard way and go crying to someone else when they finally realise.

nomas · 18/09/2025 21:35

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 18/09/2025 21:31

It seems that you don’t understand the meaning of the words ‘censorship’ or ‘free speech’. This board is moderated by @mnhq not by the posters, when you sign up, you agree to abide by their rules, break them and you get deleted. Simples.

See, if I reported you to MNHQ for saying she sounds like a stroppy 12 year old, there’s a good chance you would be deleted. Saying someone ‘sounds like x’ doesn’t always save you.

But I won’t report you, in the name of free speech! You can thank me whenever you like. 😇

Plastictreees · 18/09/2025 21:36

Talkinpeace · 18/09/2025 21:33

Only MNHQ can take people off a thread.

I was barred for several years.
It is not down to any, or many, posters
who gets deleted.

Its down to the moderators who implement the rules
get over yourself

No, people are frequently piled on and bullied off threads. It’s happening frequently here.

A bit ironic, you attempting to chastise me when you’ve been banned for years?!?!

This thread is a case study in hypocrisy and projection.

Plastictreees · 18/09/2025 21:38

decenteringmen · 18/09/2025 21:34

I don't have time to coddle women who defend misogynist men, not anymore. I leave them to it. They can find out the hard way and go crying to someone else when they finally realise.

Probably for the best tbh.

Talkinpeace · 18/09/2025 21:51

@Plastictreees
The only reasons people leave a thread are
(a) they break the rules and MNHQ ban them
(b) they chicken out

I am not chicken
I asked MNHQ to review my ban
they did, I am here

I do not give two hoots what you think
but I get bored of hypocrites on here and in real life

nomas · 18/09/2025 22:04

Talkinpeace · 18/09/2025 21:51

@Plastictreees
The only reasons people leave a thread are
(a) they break the rules and MNHQ ban them
(b) they chicken out

I am not chicken
I asked MNHQ to review my ban
they did, I am here

I do not give two hoots what you think
but I get bored of hypocrites on here and in real life

This is a bit simplistic, no? MN don’t ban people from just one thread, they ban them from the whole site.

And saying that people leave threads because they’re ‘chicken’ doesn’t factor in the OPs who are bullied off their threads. Have you never seen MN delete threads due to pile ons? How long have you been on MN?

BunfightBetty · 18/09/2025 22:06

nomas · 18/09/2025 21:29

What a creepy turn of phrase. Naughty 🤮

😂 Bless you.

Talkinpeace · 18/09/2025 22:07

@nomas
I believe I originally joined about 15 years ago
and yes I was totally banned from the site

FWIW it would appear that the person who organised the pile on that caused my departure may have the surname Horwood/Watson
which I only realised very recently

I am very aware of how pile ons work

Ereshkigalangcleg · 18/09/2025 22:11

nomas · 18/09/2025 21:32

It depends on who is moderating. Some of the mods are more zealous than other. So one day you may say someone’s post is full of ignorance and it gets reported and deleted, but another day it doesn’t get deleted.

Knowing Plastictrees posts, the chances of her saying anything offensive are nil.

ive seen that poster post several posts that were clearly not within talk guidelines.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 18/09/2025 22:11

Talkinpeace · 18/09/2025 22:07

@nomas
I believe I originally joined about 15 years ago
and yes I was totally banned from the site

FWIW it would appear that the person who organised the pile on that caused my departure may have the surname Horwood/Watson
which I only realised very recently

I am very aware of how pile ons work

Wow, really?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 18/09/2025 22:12

Plastictreees · 18/09/2025 21:30

Thank you @DorothyGaleFromKansas for the thread. It has been illuminating!

It really has.

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