My son has gone on the march

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Hi, have been on here years but only lurk, don’t post. But today is the day.
I am in bits. My 22yr old DS is in London on this march. I am shaking and utterly appalled. We differ on politics massively and have done for some time. I work in education, have travelled and am bit of a lefty hippy but to be honest it’s becoming more about values and morals. He is fully immersed in the manosphere algorithm and I’ve always thought he is exploring himself and things and have chats about why he has the opinions he does and try and understand his point of view. I try not to belittle him but try and get him to critically think about things.
But this I can’t deal with. I am so upset that my son has gone to this, and that it is something that is so far away from me and my values, something that I thought I had instilled in him as well.
I am totally aware that it’s triggered embarrassment but that is my issue and I’m not putting that on him. He is still my son and I love him and his passion and interest in the world, just in something I believe is so wrong and makes me sad.
Please talk some sense into me.

Yup. What makes you so certain you have the moral high ground, OP?

I thought it was a free speech march?

Gutted for you. Completely understand your dismay.

I guess it's a case of compartmentalising this issue and continuing to love and enjoy your son. Hopefully he'll wise up/grow out of it.
Gaaah.

Please read my post properly before quoting me.

Where did it say I was attending????

I couldn't care who organised it tbh it has absolutely no impact on my life whatsoever but good on the people who are there to protect our freedom of speech!!

Of course you can. I considered it?

Yes. Time was the left opposed mass immigration because it lowers wages. Turns out they were right.

Really?
What about his previous assault on a police officer?
Or are you going to justify that too?

There are reasons why increasing numbers of young people are identifying more with the right than the left. It’s a mistake to believe they are all misguided or indoctrinated. A big mistake.

I'm middle of the road and don't like any fars especially the far left as well as right .it's always the far right that's mentioned but the far left is just as bad. And they do meet in the middle actually with their views.

But I wouldnt dream of trying to police my children's views ,if one goes far left or right so be it.
I trust In my children and their education and everything will work out but that's their journey not mine
I can't believe the sense of control some people want to exert over a 22 year old man who could be married with kids of his own ??

But unfortunately controlling people and trying to police their views and gently ask questions to faux understand them goes hand in hand with any extremism and far left / right .

There's nothing open minded about beleiveing that immigrant men are the biggest risk to women and children, that's just ignoring facts. Women and children are at most risk from partners and family members.

Far right beliefs are based on emotion - fear of the other, fear of loss of status or access to benefits - it's very hard to have a balanced engagement with someone who isn't responding to facts.

Would be happy if your child had diametrically opposed views to you - say you're anti-choice, would you be happy if your daughter worked in an abortion clinic? Of course we hope our children will share our values.

You said yourself you’re a lefty hippy……

You’re being ridiculous. Let your son have his own politics. You’ve done your job as a parent, encouraging him to be independent and have his own mind.

Maybe he’s embarrassed by your politics.

So as a lefty hippy, how many illegals immigrants are you housing at your pad?

I'm very sorry, OP, I would be horrified and devastated too. You speak about him as a decent and sensible person; I am sure then that when he sees what kind of people go on these marches he will be pretty appalled by it too. The far-right radicalisation taking place online is very scary, but a lot of young people will realise and extricate themselves from its clutches. This march and the things he's likely to see and hear might be the wake-up call he needs.

I'm very sorry, OP, I would be horrified and devastated too. You speak about him as a decent and sensible person; I am sure then that when he sees what kind of people go on these marches he will be pretty appalled by it too. The far-right radicalisation taking place online is very scary, but a lot of young people will realise and extricate themselves from its clutches. This march and the things he's likely to see and hear might be the wake-up call he needs.

this isn’t about labour v Tory views. It’s about the far right. Unless they espouse the same beliefs, I expect most parents would be upset and disappointed that their child aligned themselves with far right thugs such as SYL, whether now or 20yrs ago.

Useful these threads for the spreadsheet. Licks pencil. 😘

Apparently it has been organised by Tommy Robinson the man who speaks up about grown men marrying children.

Oh no what a big bad monster he is 🙄

Far left beliefs are also based on emotions and what ‘feels’ good, as opposed to what actually works.

Utter and complete bullshit. He was imprisoned for contempt of court which almost caused the collapse of a trial involving such a gang and he played no part whatsoever in exposing them.

I imagine he’ll hear a LOT of racist rhetoric at this March. Things that they are not (yet) daring to say on social media.

😂
The march is not about protecting freedom of speech.

The organiser:

Yep, this is how the left have framed it and they have a very short window to backtrack in.

What are those reasons?

It sounds like you also have the same deficiencies as the OP.

Closed minds are dangerous.

I’d be interested in know what his relationship with his Dad is like, and what his view on all this is?