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New DP useless around the house

428 replies

HanhanRuns · 11/09/2025 15:48

DP moved in with me in July - his first time living away from home. I feel like I have to micro manage what he does to help out in terms of chores/housework and it’s already starting to grate. Even basic stuff like the toilet seat and lack of aim - when I raise it he says he forgot and ‘he’s learning’.

Any tips for dealing with this? Other than sexual incentives or withdrawal of these services which seems to be the only advice I get from my friends and a couple of work colleagues!

OP posts:
BatchCookBabe · 11/09/2025 19:58

ParmaVioletTea · 11/09/2025 17:25

Indeed.

And I keep reading threads in MN of women despairing over their sons whom they can’t control. Because they’ve never raised them to be responsible humans.

So those sons who are addicted to gaming, don’t go to school and their mothers are scared of disciplining them, turn into fuckwits who can’t look after themselves in the most basic ways as an adult.

And women like the OP indulge them then come on here despairing. And do the cycle goes on.

This.

It's not very often I am speechless and aghast, but this thread/the OP's posts have knocked me sideways!

As a pp said @HanhanRuns see a solicitor now, to see how you can minimise your loss(s.) Get get out of this 'relationship' with this man baby, AND the financial ties you have with him... He sounds grotesque. 😱

How can you possibly be physically attracted to him?! 😖

MissRaspberry · 11/09/2025 20:01

HanhanRuns · 11/09/2025 15:51

Yes I have. He’s 28.

At 28 surely he should know the basics of pissing in a toilet rather than all over the seat. Seems he wants another mummy figure to clean up after him. I'd pack him back there and tell his mother to teach him properly how to be an adult rather than babying him

thestudio · 11/09/2025 20:03

I think sexual incentives are the worst two words I've ever heard

HonestOpalHelper · 11/09/2025 20:04

BatchCookBabe · 11/09/2025 19:58

This.

It's not very often I am speechless and aghast, but this thread/the OP's posts have knocked me sideways!

As a pp said @HanhanRuns see a solicitor now, to see how you can minimise your loss(s.) Get get out of this 'relationship' with this man baby, AND the financial ties you have with him... He sounds grotesque. 😱

How can you possibly be physically attracted to him?! 😖

I would strongly advise against dumping and running before the financial issues are resolved.

I suspect from my fairly decent knowledge of property law that the TiC created by the severance of the JT will default to 50/50

An agreed deed of trust / signatures of both parties will be needed to register uneven shares.

If I'm right, you want him signing on the dotted and it registered before you tell him to do one.

Remember also, irrespective of his share, he can petition to force a sale to recover his share of the property and pay off his share of the mortgage.

Canthelpmyselffromjoiningin · 11/09/2025 20:06

HonestOpalHelper · 11/09/2025 19:49

As far as I'm aware a deed of trust cannot be used with Joint Tenants, because joint tenants effectively own overlapping 100% stakes, which die with them leaving the other party as the sole owner immediately and cannot be willed elsewhere.

That's why Joint tenancy can invalidate all sorts of clauses in a will.

It would require changing to TiC, which OP can do unilaterally, but that will automatically create 50/50 TiC - if you can then apply a deed of trust, possibly but that would require agreement of all parties.

Yeah my bad, skim reading I read mortgage and thought she meant joint liability on the mortgage. Declaration of Trust can absolutely be registered for joint tenants though (my solicitor drew one up). It might be different on death, but I was advised that it can be used in the event of a relationship breakdown.
Regardless, OP urgently needs legal advice as someone who knows what they are doing needs to see what she's signed, and I hope people stop piling in on her, she must be feeling terrible.

flatsourdough · 11/09/2025 20:08

Just posting to say I hope you're ignoring the negative and focusing on the good advice given. Good luck OP and prioritise yourself here.

Hotflushesandchilblains · 11/09/2025 20:09

OP, this is not unusual situation and it is always a bit of a surprise. If you come back and want to discuss these with him. look up fair play cards - and the website. It is to help couples talk about how they split responsibility. It might help you start a conversation. But the fact he thinks he is 'still learning' is not great - usually it only takes once to do something that someone else does not like.

HonestOpalHelper · 11/09/2025 20:10

Canthelpmyselffromjoiningin · 11/09/2025 20:06

Yeah my bad, skim reading I read mortgage and thought she meant joint liability on the mortgage. Declaration of Trust can absolutely be registered for joint tenants though (my solicitor drew one up). It might be different on death, but I was advised that it can be used in the event of a relationship breakdown.
Regardless, OP urgently needs legal advice as someone who knows what they are doing needs to see what she's signed, and I hope people stop piling in on her, she must be feeling terrible.

Absolutely with you she needs legal advice - and not to LTB / break up / fall out with him until that is sorted, because I'm sure it needs both parties to agree to the declaration.

Shoulderss · 11/09/2025 20:11

Honestly OP, you have been so played.
Get on to Women's aid.
Why wouldn't you rent out your spare bedrooms?
Hand him half your house.
Of course his friend wasn't looking out for you.
Contact his regulatory body and report him.
Wake up.
He's making a spectacular fool of you.

BatchCookBabe · 11/09/2025 20:13

HonestOpalHelper · 11/09/2025 20:04

I would strongly advise against dumping and running before the financial issues are resolved.

I suspect from my fairly decent knowledge of property law that the TiC created by the severance of the JT will default to 50/50

An agreed deed of trust / signatures of both parties will be needed to register uneven shares.

If I'm right, you want him signing on the dotted and it registered before you tell him to do one.

Remember also, irrespective of his share, he can petition to force a sale to recover his share of the property and pay off his share of the mortgage.

Yes you're right of course. But how can the OP do this without giving away that she plans on dumping him? (That's if she has the sense to do this!)

Also, like another poster, I am also grimacing at her offering sexual incentives to try and convince him to 'do better.' 😬

My mind is working overtime! 😂 👅 ( ๏ 人 ๏ ) (‿ˠ‿) Ɑ͞ ̶͞ ̶͞ ̶͞ لں͞

TakeMeDancing · 11/09/2025 20:15

HanhanRuns · 11/09/2025 17:05

I meant from the perspective of looking at equity, a fair amount for him to pay, future options with regards to Mortgage term etc. He’s regulated so hardly going to suggest anything untoward given it’s his job/reputation on the line, and it meant he gave us a good deal when it came to fees.

Why didn’t he just rent? That’s what I did when I first moved in with DH before we were engaged or married, Monthly rent helps financially, no? Now you’re stuck with the floor pisser unless you sell the house (spoiler alert: you won’t get the same amount of house for what you sell your portion of the house for). Did someone advise you to go into this—someone besides BF/his friends?

DownThePubWithStevieNicks · 11/09/2025 20:17

This is why I fervently believe women should not move in with men who have not lived away from their parents for at least two years, and that you’ve witnessed them managing their home for a significant period of time.

Rosesanddaffs · 11/09/2025 20:33

@HanhanRuns just echoing what others have said, get rid, next he will be asking you to wipe his arse because he doesn’t know how to xx

Lourdes12 · 11/09/2025 20:49

I guess his mum kept wiping the toilet seat after him. His mum has probably not trained him very well

Mookie81 · 11/09/2025 20:59

HanhanRuns · 11/09/2025 16:44

Yea he’s on the Mortgage with me and paid a lump sum which really helped me out as I was in a bit of a pickle job wise (now resolved), not ideal I know as would have been better to wait a few months.

You're a bloody fool.

carly2803 · 11/09/2025 21:01

oh fuck that - send him back to mummy - they DO NOT change, learn etc

word of advice - never ever live with someone who has not lived on their own first!

Hoardasauruskaren · 11/09/2025 21:05

I honestly never understand how so many men can’t use a toilet properly! Lived with my DH for almost 30 yrs & have 2 DS (now young men) and its never been an issue in our house! Sheer laziness imo.

BatchCookBabe · 11/09/2025 21:07

I do have to ask, why is the onus on this man's MUM to train him/raise him properly? There is a father here somewhere. Why isn't HE getting any stick?!

Princessconsuelabananahammock9 · 11/09/2025 21:12

HanhanRuns · 11/09/2025 16:51

No, but we did speak to a broker who he’s friends with so were protected that way.

This can’t be real…

ERthree · 11/09/2025 21:15

He is a grown man. Get rid now because the roles have been st, you will always have to play mummy,

PigletSanders · 11/09/2025 21:15

HanhanRuns · 11/09/2025 16:44

Yea he’s on the Mortgage with me and paid a lump sum which really helped me out as I was in a bit of a pickle job wise (now resolved), not ideal I know as would have been better to wait a few months.

Oh for fuck’s sake.

🤦🏻‍♀️

Princessconsuelabananahammock9 · 11/09/2025 21:16

Lourdes12 · 11/09/2025 20:49

I guess his mum kept wiping the toilet seat after him. His mum has probably not trained him very well

Why do we always blame Mothers? Presumably it’s the Dad who also has a penis?

PigletSanders · 11/09/2025 21:17

HanhanRuns · 11/09/2025 17:15

To be honest a lot of what was discussed went over my head, the Broker advised that was the most suitable option and given he’s the professional I wasn’t going to argue it!

My good god, OP. I hope you’re beginning to realise what an utter, utter fool you’ve been.

Him and his broker friend must have raised a few drinks to you behind your back… 🤦🏻‍♀️

PigletSanders · 11/09/2025 21:18

ERthree · 11/09/2025 21:15

He is a grown man. Get rid now because the roles have been st, you will always have to play mummy,

Too late, she’s given him half her house.

Whatislife73 · 11/09/2025 21:20

@HanhanRuns mumsnet is the worst place to ask a question like this! If you’d said he doesn’t load the dishwasher properly many would still tell you to chuck him out!

Do you love this man? If so stick with it. He’s probably has had most things done for him at home and at least he’s open to being better. Have a proper conversation about the peeing on loo, ask him to check after to ensure it’s all clean. Use loving, positive words rather than getting annoyed.

moving in together is a big change at all ages and you have to learn to live together, it won’t all be pretty.

for context I’m 50, I met my husband at 42. He’s quite messy and a clean house is a low priority for him, but I love a clean house. It took about a year to work on this and my god we had some huge arguments, I nearly left! Slowly he’s got better and make more effort, but I’ve also loosened up a bit (and we got a cleaner)!