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Children having their own seat on a packed train.

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user1493559472 · 11/09/2025 09:59

I am on a packed train. A child who is about 3 years old is sat in their own seat and not on the parents lap, would you ask to sit down and the child sits on parents lap? People were standing.
Thank you

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Wherehasthecatgone · 13/09/2025 12:27

MasterBeth · 13/09/2025 10:58

Again, I don't think you have a grasp of what you are talking about here.

I am not the stranger in this scenario. I am the three year olds' parent. I am not demanding the three year olds seat. I am offering to sacrifice some of my comfort - and instructing my 3 year old to sacrifice a little of their comfort - to help a stranger in need

My experience with my three children (all well over three years old now)

So you are not the parent in that situation, you are dictating what you think the parent should do so you can get the seat you are after.

GleisZwei · 13/09/2025 12:51

MasterBeth · 13/09/2025 11:31

It's not the same, no. It's a bit less comfortable. But three year olds are... small children.

And?
Small children are also people, equally valuable people.

GleisZwei · 13/09/2025 12:53

MasterBeth · 13/09/2025 11:41

And where in that post do I say children are less important than adults?

Pretty much every post you've written has suggested this.

Swissmeringue · 13/09/2025 12:54

I put my kids on my lap on a busy train, or we'll squeeze onto 2 seats between the 3 of us if I've got them both with me.

I wouldn't approach someone and ask them to move their kid though.

MasterBeth · 13/09/2025 13:59

GleisZwei · 13/09/2025 12:53

Pretty much every post you've written has suggested this.

Complete nonsense, and the fact that you can't find one example of me saying it, tells it's own story.

MasterBeth · 13/09/2025 14:02

GleisZwei · 13/09/2025 12:51

And?
Small children are also people, equally valuable people.

And, while their small size has nothing to do with their value but it clearly makes it much easier for them to sit on an adult's lap.

MasterBeth · 13/09/2025 14:04

Wherehasthecatgone · 13/09/2025 12:27

My experience with my three children (all well over three years old now)

So you are not the parent in that situation, you are dictating what you think the parent should do so you can get the seat you are after.

Can you read?

I am not dictating what anyone should do. I am telling you what I would do and have done.

MasterBeth · 13/09/2025 14:06

Wherehasthecatgone · 13/09/2025 12:24

You directly contrasted an overtired upset child with a well behaved child, clearly implying an overtired upset child is badly behaved.

I have not implied it. You have inferred it. Incorrectly.

BananaPeels · 13/09/2025 14:06

MasterBeth · 13/09/2025 14:04

Can you read?

I am not dictating what anyone should do. I am telling you what I would do and have done.

But is it acceptable to judge others who don’t do the same when you have no idea about why the parent in question doesn’t want to give up the seat? Or is it a case that a 3 year old needs to give it up regardless?

MasterBeth · 13/09/2025 14:14

BananaPeels · 13/09/2025 14:06

But is it acceptable to judge others who don’t do the same when you have no idea about why the parent in question doesn’t want to give up the seat? Or is it a case that a 3 year old needs to give it up regardless?

Can you show me where I have judged others who don't do the same?

Are you just having a general argument with the rest of the thread?

GleisZwei · 13/09/2025 14:17

MasterBeth · 13/09/2025 14:02

And, while their small size has nothing to do with their value but it clearly makes it much easier for them to sit on an adult's lap.

It's not easier for them or the adult they have to sit on.

GleisZwei · 13/09/2025 14:18

MasterBeth · 13/09/2025 14:14

Can you show me where I have judged others who don't do the same?

Are you just having a general argument with the rest of the thread?

Lots of us agree with @BananaPeels.

BananaPeels · 13/09/2025 14:19

MasterBeth · 13/09/2025 14:14

Can you show me where I have judged others who don't do the same?

Are you just having a general argument with the rest of the thread?

I didn’t say you had judged someone - I asked you the question ‘is it acceptable to judge someone?’

it was a question to further probe views on this. That is the point of a debate.

the answer would be no. Others on here have said yes to similar questions. It is interesting to see a range of views

MasterBeth · 13/09/2025 14:25

It is not acceptable to judge someone in those circumstances.

Wherehasthecatgone · 13/09/2025 14:32

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Wherehasthecatgone · 13/09/2025 14:34

MasterBeth · 13/09/2025 14:04

Can you read?

I am not dictating what anyone should do. I am telling you what I would do and have done.

Except don’t have a three year old.

MasterBeth · 13/09/2025 15:03

GleisZwei · 13/09/2025 14:17

It's not easier for them or the adult they have to sit on.

Good grief!

It is easier for a small person (3 year old) to sit on a lap than for a large person (adult). Do you understand?

underthecokesign · 13/09/2025 15:16

GleisZwei · 12/09/2025 11:58

Have you not RTFT then?

Yes thanks. Inconvenience has been talked about in a variety of contexts, but no one has accused children of being a 'major inconvenience', and pp was the only person to say anything about martyrdom. They're being absurd.

HTH.

MasterBeth · 13/09/2025 15:17

GleisZwei · 13/09/2025 14:18

Lots of us agree with @BananaPeels.

How can you know that?. She has clarified that she was just asking a question.

GleisZwei · 13/09/2025 15:28

underthecokesign · 13/09/2025 15:16

Yes thanks. Inconvenience has been talked about in a variety of contexts, but no one has accused children of being a 'major inconvenience', and pp was the only person to say anything about martyrdom. They're being absurd.

HTH.

No, it doesn't help.
HTH you.

GleisZwei · 13/09/2025 15:29

MasterBeth · 13/09/2025 15:17

How can you know that?. She has clarified that she was just asking a question.

How can i know agree with her many posts? Well, being asI have read them all......🤣

GleisZwei · 13/09/2025 15:30

MasterBeth · 13/09/2025 15:03

Good grief!

It is easier for a small person (3 year old) to sit on a lap than for a large person (adult). Do you understand?

I understand you think it's easier.
I'm stating that it's, in fact, not easier.
Good grief indeed.
HTH

underthecokesign · 13/09/2025 16:04

GleisZwei · 13/09/2025 15:30

I understand you think it's easier.
I'm stating that it's, in fact, not easier.
Good grief indeed.
HTH

So you are claiming that it's just as hard for a toddler to sit on an adult's lap (for both parties) than it is for a bigger child or an adult to sit on an adult's lap... 🤔

GleisZwei · 13/09/2025 16:10

underthecokesign · 13/09/2025 16:04

So you are claiming that it's just as hard for a toddler to sit on an adult's lap (for both parties) than it is for a bigger child or an adult to sit on an adult's lap... 🤔

No, I'm stating that it's not easier for the child or the parent to give the child's seat to another adult.
There's some really, really weird perspectives and comments on this thread.

Thechaseison71 · 13/09/2025 16:29

Wherehasthecatgone · 13/09/2025 12:24

You directly contrasted an overtired upset child with a well behaved child, clearly implying an overtired upset child is badly behaved.

Well they often do behave badly when tired or upset. Thats nothing new