Freedom of speech isn't tolerated by some

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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/comment/2025/09/10/charlie-kirks-shooting-terrible-moment-american-democracy/

Political violence on the rise.

People are getting angry when people have Political views they don't agree with. Freedom of speech must be allowed not shutdown.

Tragic news of a young family man shot by someone today. Please remember he was a human with a family. Violence is never ok.

I agree with this. I don’t condone his murder and my heart goes out to his wife and children especially as they witnessed that- impossible trauma. But if you play silly games you win silly prizes. If you support gun ownership and accept collateral deaths why shouldn’t it be you?

As I was referring to you, when you honed in on my post. As for my 'activity' I think I will carry on. It's called freedom of speech, remember? It's something lefties need reminding of, from time to time.

No one has been caught for his murder so we don’t know who did it and why. Of course if you if information I’m sure the FBI would like to hear from you.

Why shouldn't it be you? Should it be anyone?

Blimey, another very busy thread, on a mainly UK based website site while most of the UK is asleep- and the vast majority stating how hateful and looney left anyone who isn't weeping and wailing that a gun advocate was killed by a gun.

If I was his wife, I would be pissed off that he wasn't trying to get rid of guns to make the world safer for my children- to answer those that asked, but then again, I wouldn't have married him.

This thread is a classic, boring, old attempt by those who want to spread hate, to belittle and discredit those who don't think it's OK to spread hate. In my opinion it's vile that they use deaths, any deaths to push their political agenda.

Still no mention from those advocating hard right rhetoric on the school shooting.

I oppose and hate guns, I wouldn’t live in or visit America because of it. But the idea that if you support the right to bear arms you deserve to die is really appalling to me. And very hypocritical.

Are you seriously coming at me with that, when those same people have posted the most disgusting videos, celebrating the assassination of a young husband and father?

Because I don’t live in the US because I disagree with their gun laws among other reasons.

In my opinion- no. In Charlie Kirk’s opinion- it’s one of those things.

Fact? Pure supposition. Until the shooter is identified you've got no idea whether their motivation was political or if it was just some kind of personal grudge.

Of course when Melissa Hortman was assassinated the GOP were falling over each other to claim that it was some kind of Democrat-orchestrated false flag operation. They'd be spitting feathers if anyone claimed that this was a Far-Right inside job, yet the bloke who fired at Trump was a registered Republican.

I was referring to you, as in your quoted "you" about CK. It's one of those things? Well that lovely one goes nicely, with all the other compassionate posts.

Just one of those things is the sort of sentiment CK has when a bunch of school kids get massacred. "God-given" rights to own an AR15 were more important to him, apparently.

Come on, if you think Mamdani is centrist, then I can only assume you think Pol Pot was soft-left.

Have you seen his policies?

His campaign platform includes support for fare-free city buses; public child care; city-owned grocery stores; a rent freezes, and a $30 minimum wage by 2030.

"Apparently". Lots of justification for this murder, with much supposition about the man.

This isn't a new thing in America. The USA has always been like this. The violence has always been there simmering under the surface.

Now he beomes some sort of martyr for Trumps MAGA cause. That's so depressing.

Yes people should be able to voice any view others deem as abhorrent without violence directed at them. I disagree that the motives of people who support freedom of speech are all about avoiding consequences for what they say. There are some of course. Many just care about living in a free society.

This.

We are covered in English flags exercising freedom of expression, but all non English flags that were added on the same posts in response have been removed or destroyed. It was also in the news today that Scarborough council is planing to ban flags that are not British so not even rainbow flags allowed.

Freedom of expression comes both ways, we cannot recreate the tactic of Israel claiming everyone that disagreed with its policies is partaking into antisemitism. Should we silence everyone who disagrees with us?

I have seen far left extremists get nastier and nastier in the past few years. They come out with some really shocking things when things don't go their way.

RIP Charlie Kirk.

Yeah, how boring eh. What are we like telling the hard left that it's actually them responsible for this. Why? Well, you've all spent that much time telling the right how vile and hateful THEY are, that you drive that division. That's the aim though and when people fight back, you "weep and wail". It's why Trump's in office and Farage is heading for No 10 👏

That is absolutely not a comparable example.

Good grief this thread is awful. I’m about as anti gun as it’s possible to be, but I’m beyond horrified at the number of people on mumsnet who think it’s somehow deserved to be shot in front of your family because you support gun ownership.

I’m scared today. I’m scared because of the gloating left - so many of whom seem to think that this act is defendable.

Yes that’s what I hate most. I think he was quite destructive and negative for political discourse but naturally so many glowing posts about him since his death.

I will remember that, when I'm next accused of racism.

Yes, remember that, but also remember that people calling you racist and a bigot are within their rights to express what they think of you.

I think you have this back to front.

The ‘nasty things’ I hear are about abortion, migrants, guns, bombs, Gaza, women.

These things are coming from the right, backed by big money, proliferated by bots, leading to violence and cruelty every day.

Never has the "she was wearing a short skirt so she asked for it" analogy been so relevant. Sick.