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To ask DH to keep our BTL

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Nosdoc · 10/09/2025 13:50

We own a BTL property that generates a decent income for me - it’s set up so that most of the income is directed to me. DH plans to refurbish and sell the property and us the proceeds to pay of the mortgage on our house. All very sensible but as I don’t work, the BTL is my only source of income. DH doesn’t plan on reducing the monthly payments on our mortgage, but he is going to reduce the term, so we won’t see any immediate benefit from lower repayments. I am feeling distressed because this money provides me with considerable financial freedom.

My husband is refusing to discuss and has told me the plan to sell is final.

OP posts:
Shewasafaireh · 11/09/2025 15:09

Reasontoreason · 11/09/2025 11:23

Life is meant for living” goes both ways. Sure, the partner who goes out to work carries the financial load, but the stay at home parent is carrying a different load that doesn’t show up on a payslip.
It’s not some glossy “Mad Men” fantasy, it’s just a practical division of roles that makes family life run smoother. A SAHM also saves the working parent from all that extra time and workload at home, which means he can focus on hobbies out side of work and then actually have time to relax when he gets in. As long as both people in the marriage agree and it works for them . Everyone life’s are not the same and have different set ups . Doesn’t mean one is right and one is wrong

Thank god it’s not a glossy Mad Men fantasy because no one in their right mind would wish for Bett Draper’s miserable life.

Shewasafaireh · 11/09/2025 15:11

@Nosdoc good luck! I’m sure you’ll do brilliantly and you’ll all be better off for it.

hungryduck · 11/09/2025 15:12

Phatgurslyms · 11/09/2025 05:58

She is his wife not his woman.

Hence the " "

Wife implies equal partnership, which this is not.

Bruisername · 11/09/2025 15:13

Shewasafaireh · 11/09/2025 15:09

Thank god it’s not a glossy Mad Men fantasy because no one in their right mind would wish for Bett Draper’s miserable life.

Glad I’m not the only one who saw that lifestyle as a cautionary tale and not something to aspire to!

JimPanzee · 11/09/2025 15:16

Nosdoc · 11/09/2025 11:45

I will look at working part time.

We sell the HMO and we’ll increase the cleaners’ hours.
Posters have made me release I need to do more.

Are you taking the piss?
You realise you need to do more, so you'll increase the cleaners' hours?

(Edit: needed to pluralise the cleaners, as op did - so there's more than one!)

Bruisername · 11/09/2025 15:19

JimPanzee · 11/09/2025 15:16

Are you taking the piss?
You realise you need to do more, so you'll increase the cleaners' hours?

(Edit: needed to pluralise the cleaners, as op did - so there's more than one!)

Edited

I assume once she has a job

JimPanzee · 11/09/2025 15:33

Bruisername · 11/09/2025 15:19

I assume once she has a job

Ah OK. I didn't connect the dots... my bad!
Of course with a part-time job you definitely need to up the hours of your multiple cleaners 🙄

Arran2024 · 11/09/2025 15:34

Digdongdoo · 11/09/2025 09:29

You're making a lot of assumptions about the "type of family" they are. But even if OP was hoping to be a lady who lunches forever, her DH is allowed to decide he no longer wants to work himself to the bone to facilitate it. For goodness sake he's reducing his workload a bit, not shipping her off to a gulag.
Marriages should never be built upon an expectation that one party will provide a certain lifestyle forever more with no compromise. What on earth.

She will be contributing in other ways besides financial. I bet he doesn't lift a finger with the children, the meals, the day to day household chores, the running around picking up dry cleaning etc. He is benefiting from this. He agreed to it. He shouldn't arbitrarily change the rules 100% in his favour just because he can

Arran2024 · 11/09/2025 15:39

the7Vabo · 11/09/2025 09:49

This is a cartoon stereotype of a working man & a housewife.

On what planet does a man who works not spend a moment of time on his house of kids?

The only men this might possibly apply to are men at the absolute top of their game - hospital consultants, CEOs. They are select view. And in my experience these men still do stuff with their kids because it’s 2025 and old fashioned stereotypes of what men & women do are long gone.

I know plenty of families who operate like this. Yes, top of their game. My daughter works in an upmarket nursery and it is full of families like this too. Not saying every top of their game dad is like this but plenty are. And loads of them live in huge houses where they want a stay at home wife to manage everything. I don't understand why some people think these families don't exist.

Digdongdoo · 11/09/2025 15:40

Arran2024 · 11/09/2025 15:34

She will be contributing in other ways besides financial. I bet he doesn't lift a finger with the children, the meals, the day to day household chores, the running around picking up dry cleaning etc. He is benefiting from this. He agreed to it. He shouldn't arbitrarily change the rules 100% in his favour just because he can

OP hasn't mentioned any of that. So you don't know. And perhaps selling this BTL will help balance the load further.

Digdongdoo · 11/09/2025 15:47

Arran2024 · 11/09/2025 15:39

I know plenty of families who operate like this. Yes, top of their game. My daughter works in an upmarket nursery and it is full of families like this too. Not saying every top of their game dad is like this but plenty are. And loads of them live in huge houses where they want a stay at home wife to manage everything. I don't understand why some people think these families don't exist.

I don't know what sort of circles you move in but this is a very old fashioned set up that staggeringly few can afford.
And even if a family has been run like this, they are allowed to change things. Men financing a life of leisure isn't a contractual thing, they are allowed to make lifestyle changes.

G5000 · 11/09/2025 15:48

OP has not mentioned that DH doesn't lift a finger. Considering that DH does even the admin that's in OPs name and provides OPs income, because it's too much for OP, it doesn't sound like DH is a man who just sits on his backside.

ishimbob · 11/09/2025 15:49

Digdongdoo · 11/09/2025 15:47

I don't know what sort of circles you move in but this is a very old fashioned set up that staggeringly few can afford.
And even if a family has been run like this, they are allowed to change things. Men financing a life of leisure isn't a contractual thing, they are allowed to make lifestyle changes.

It's like something out of a time machine!

I know a lot of high earners "at the top of their game" etc (I am one myself) and they are all married to other high earners. I don't know any SAHMs getting the pipe and slippers ready or whatever.

Arran2024 · 11/09/2025 15:53

Digdongdoo · 11/09/2025 15:47

I don't know what sort of circles you move in but this is a very old fashioned set up that staggeringly few can afford.
And even if a family has been run like this, they are allowed to change things. Men financing a life of leisure isn't a contractual thing, they are allowed to make lifestyle changes.

I can't believe you think that a couple agrees to a particular set up where he earns a huge salary and she doesn't and they decide she will stay at home and run the household, making it possible for him to concentrate on his career...and that because he is the wage earner this gives him carte blanche to pull the financial rug any time he likes.

They are both benefiting from one parent at home.

Bruisername · 11/09/2025 15:55

There is a lot of projection on this thread. And a lot of assumptions.

Coffeetime25 · 11/09/2025 15:56

Arran2024 · 11/09/2025 15:34

She will be contributing in other ways besides financial. I bet he doesn't lift a finger with the children, the meals, the day to day household chores, the running around picking up dry cleaning etc. He is benefiting from this. He agreed to it. He shouldn't arbitrarily change the rules 100% in his favour just because he can

she has a cleaner kids are in school and they prob have a nanny how does she contribute other then using the credit card to fund a lavish lifestyle and cant work Incase she breaks a nail

Digdongdoo · 11/09/2025 15:59

Arran2024 · 11/09/2025 15:53

I can't believe you think that a couple agrees to a particular set up where he earns a huge salary and she doesn't and they decide she will stay at home and run the household, making it possible for him to concentrate on his career...and that because he is the wage earner this gives him carte blanche to pull the financial rug any time he likes.

They are both benefiting from one parent at home.

There's no rug to be pulled. It's a very selfish women who would insist their high earning DH work overtime so they don't have to lift a finger all day. It's 2025, women can work and men can share the housework. Thankfully OP is more reasonable than you and they have reached a mutually agreeable compromise.

the7Vabo · 11/09/2025 16:05

Arran2024 · 11/09/2025 15:39

I know plenty of families who operate like this. Yes, top of their game. My daughter works in an upmarket nursery and it is full of families like this too. Not saying every top of their game dad is like this but plenty are. And loads of them live in huge houses where they want a stay at home wife to manage everything. I don't understand why some people think these families don't exist.

They are SAHMs yet your daughter minds the kids in her nursery. So they are not with their mother.

I know families like this and yes, as you pointed out they usually have significant help. I know a couple who have a full time nanny, a cleaner & a gardener.

They are the exception not the rule, and the mother is usually a lady who lunches not a put upon SAHM.

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 11/09/2025 16:51

If the flats in your name how will he force you to sell it?
Have you asked how he will finance your income after the sale?

andthat · 11/09/2025 17:04

Phatgurslyms · 10/09/2025 23:15

She already has a job.

She really doesn’t.

9CTdad · 11/09/2025 17:22

Phatgurslyms · 11/09/2025 13:16

Work it out for yourself.

same difference,

A husband is her wife's man, a wife is her husband's woman, a daughter is her parents' child blah blah.

Woke BS is killing us

Shewasafaireh · 11/09/2025 17:54

Bruisername · 11/09/2025 15:13

Glad I’m not the only one who saw that lifestyle as a cautionary tale and not something to aspire to!

I’m surprised anyone would see it as aspirational?? Poor Betty was just stuck in a marriage she couldn’t really get out of with a man who cheated on her at every turn.

Even Joan was constantly subject to disgusting remarks by men. The show did a great job at portraying what women had to put up with.

Peggy is my girl, probably one of my favourite characters of all time.

CoffeeLipstickKeys · 11/09/2025 18:03

Arran2024 · 11/09/2025 15:39

I know plenty of families who operate like this. Yes, top of their game. My daughter works in an upmarket nursery and it is full of families like this too. Not saying every top of their game dad is like this but plenty are. And loads of them live in huge houses where they want a stay at home wife to manage everything. I don't understand why some people think these families don't exist.

High earning families with a housewife and the children attend upmarket nursery too? How’s that work
So if the children are at nursery,how is the housewife saying she’s too busy with childcare and tasks to be employed. If the children attend nursery what’s the mum doing?

Arran2024 · 11/09/2025 18:11

CoffeeLipstickKeys · 11/09/2025 18:03

High earning families with a housewife and the children attend upmarket nursery too? How’s that work
So if the children are at nursery,how is the housewife saying she’s too busy with childcare and tasks to be employed. If the children attend nursery what’s the mum doing?

There are kids at the nursery full time whose family have a full time nanny AND the mother doesn't work!

These people truly exist.

The father usually has a massive income and they find it convenient to have a nanny for the younger ones, for nursery drop off, for the evenings, for the weekends and holidays.

The wife is continually pregnant and nursing babies.

They have cleaners too of course.

Phatgurslyms · 11/09/2025 18:44

9CTdad · 11/09/2025 17:22

same difference,

A husband is her wife's man, a wife is her husband's woman, a daughter is her parents' child blah blah.

Woke BS is killing us

The phrase I objected to was actually kept woman. I hadn’t wanted to repeat it because I find it objectionable.

In my experience, with men like you around women are safer when they remain wide awake.