Do people really think PIP claimants are fraudsters?!

[Greedybilly]

As someone with a chronic illness in the middle of claiming PIP I think it's important to point out it's very stressful to go through the process and actually get the benefit.
To those who were inferring it's an easy blag - I would say yes there will always be a few scammers who claim fraudulently ( though god knows how tbh?) the majority have to struggle for years/go through appeals/give up.
Just saying this for balance as I feel MN is turning slghtly into the Daily Fail.

Apparently Starmer's newly appointed DWP minister is set to make things tougher with benefits.

OP, well, the consensus on MN appears to be that PIP recipients are a bunch of lying free loaders. I think most of those making these far fetched claims have no experience of battling the system (apart from knowing every detail of their neighbours claims) and are reading too much in the daily fail. Loads of idiots on here who have no clue. Don't overthink it.

The only people I know who l claim PIP happen to have ADHD. They are not claiming for it. When you apply you have to list all the conditions you have.
The only people I know who who claim for ADHD are kids, so it is DLA.

So, judging from the information I've provided, how on earth are they entitled to PIP?

I just would genuinely love to know. Because it baffles me. And if I tried to ask they would get really nasty and defensive. Something about it all doesn't sit right with me.

I'm sure the vast majority are genuine cases, but I can assure you that there are some people who are making up bullshit because they simply don't want to work.

Read David Rose ham (1973). 8 perfectly sane people lied to get themselves sectioned.

You would need to be under secondary care and one of the questions is how many of hours of treatment do you have a week when was your last hospital or care home admission and for how long . People wrongly have the impression you go to the gp get told your depressed get given some antidepressants and then you can claim pip it doesn't work like that. Most people claiming purely for mental illness you are talking schizophrenia, bipolar, eupd, autism etc. When people are getting it for adhd, depression or anxiety they usually have other medical conditions alongside that. You also need to remember pip is a scale at the lowest end its less then £30 a week.

PIP is not an out of work benefit

The vast majority of pip recipients are not in work. Have a look at the statistics, they are publicly available.

Read David Rosenhan (1973). 8 perfectly sane people got themselves sectioned just to show how easy it is to fool Psychiatrists.

Exactly this. You’d think the jealous ignorants would get their facts right before spouting rubbish.🙄

You think they should not have PIP because they exercise. I said that people that compete in the Paralympics are most likely all on PIP and are doing sports in full view of the public and DWP on the TV.

Exercise can help with some conditions. You seem to have a view that anyone claiming PIP should be totally incapable of anything and stuck at home.

Your relative could be claiming for MH reasons. They applied and were assessed and awarded. It is not really any of your business.

One of my clients just go awarded it for ten years. Had a breakdown a few years ago after marriage breakdown but steadily improving. Absolutely no indication of any long term schizophrenia or anything. Crazy to give a ten year award when someone is improving. In my experience people rarely report improvements just deterioration.

The mental health system is significantly different now to 1973. Years ago they sectioned people for having epilepsy now they don't even section people who attempt suicide.

Out of sheer necessity. Do you ever read a newspaper? Watch the news? £2.9tn of public debt not bother you? Interest on this debt of £100bn a year not an issue you think the government need worry about?

They don't do 10 year awards for mental health so thats a lie

No I wont because you are clearly trying to use it as justification that anyone on PIP for MH reasons is taking the piss.

People get sectioned because they are refusing help or are in denial they are ill.

Yeah sure I just made it up! 👏carry on in you little ignorant bubble!

PIP is £73.90 standard weekly payments or enhanced £110.40 per week. Where do you get £30 week from?

I claim pip and work

This!!!!

Again people who don’t know what they’re talking about spouting rubbish. You don’t get sectioned for repeated suicide attempts and self harm, you’re bloody lucky to get any proper treatment at all bar a few calls from crisis for a while.

Well that's funny because I helped with the PIP form and saw the award letter. he is just under state pension age so maybe that makes a difference? Nice of you to call me a liar though.

I know someone claiming PIP for ADHD that uses it to fund their ADHD medication as the NHS refused (no ADHD diagnosis for adults in their area, and GP won’t take on shared care).

Their ADHD medication allows them to work.

Would you rather they didn’t get PIP, didn’t work, and claimed more from the taxpayer in Universal Credit?

What, all people? Which ones?

I assume DLA is a cash payment too? Why on earth would you need cash for ADHD?

That does not matter. It is not an out of work benefit. You could not live off PIP. It is there to account for the extra costs that come with living with disability. It is not a payment to pay bills, rent and food costs. That would be ESA or UC.

Its split into 2 categories mobility and daily living standard mobility is £29.70 a week