Do people really think PIP claimants are fraudsters?!

[Greedybilly]

As someone with a chronic illness in the middle of claiming PIP I think it's important to point out it's very stressful to go through the process and actually get the benefit.
To those who were inferring it's an easy blag - I would say yes there will always be a few scammers who claim fraudulently ( though god knows how tbh?) the majority have to struggle for years/go through appeals/give up.
Just saying this for balance as I feel MN is turning slghtly into the Daily Fail.

The cynic in me thinks that the powers that be see it as money well spent if it precipitates death for intractable addicts.

Disabled people are easy targets

My dad was rejected for PIP he has COPD and many many other things wrong with him he is now actively dying and has been accepted for attendance allowance its made life much easier he could have had an easier life years ago had he not been rejected

Then why are you asking people on here?

I get the lowest level of PIP and it’s not easy at all. It was a 90 question form to fill in and a few hundred pages of evidence to send then a 75 minute interview. I’m sure there are blaggers but would be amazed if it’s anywhere near a majority. I am DD’s appointee, she is transitioning from DLA so I’ve had to fill the huge form out again. send off the evidence and have her interview next week. It’s a massive worry.

They don't have autism. They must be claiming on grounds of mental health I guess.

Blagging it is highly unlikely these days as you have to support your claim with medical evidence and details of your medical care team. It is a far from easy way to get a few quid. It’s not big money and many of the questions feel personal and intrusive and require huge detail. I’m certainly not living it up off pip which took 6 months to be processed. It all goes on things that enable me to be able to care for my self, non nhs funded treatments for pain and neuropathy etc. people are spiteful and judgemental when the reality is that the very vast majority of claimants need that money to ease some of the pressures they are under.

It's the same with other benefits. But why does everything think pip should be vouchers or we have to submit receipts as to what we've spent it on? I don't see anyone say the same about child benefit

Surely if you know a person enough to know their financial situation you know them enough to know their medical conditions or be able to ask. Its only on mumsnet people know neighbours and friends of friends financial situation in real life people don't know these things

Most likely the vast majority are genuine claimants but a few will be making up lies in a convincing way to claim. If it's a mental health claim the GP or consultant will just record what you tell them and Bingo there is your medical evidence. As I say I think most claims for MH are genuine but I can see how it might be easier to fake MH claims.

@notgettinganyyounger-- I've asked for help from a disability charity and FB not because I'm blagging it but because the forms are hard and without understanding the reasoning behind each question/think about ur worst days and how best to word your response - you'renot going to get the benefit.

Attendance Allowance is hugely easier to claim. I'm sorry your dad was refused sooner.

PIP is not an out of work benefit. Some people claim PIP for MH and they work.

Utter bollox. That's not even daily mail logic. No government has ever said they expect people with a disability to be self sufficient without government funding. Christ. Do you seriously not understand the difference between legitimate claims and fraudulent ones? I give up.

Agree 👍

The bottom line is there’s too many people claiming benefits and it’s bankrupting us . There are no doubt fraudsters amongst the genuine but I can understand higher paying tax payers being dubious .

I claim PIP and I found the process very easy and straightforward. I just had a ten minute telephone assessment.

And taking hard earned money away from taxpayers.

The people who think it's easy to claim PIP have never had to try for it. Instead of thanking their lucky stars for their good health and normal functioning body, they pick on those they see as societies dregs. How dare we have something that makes life a bit easier for us.

Because I'm effing curious how my seemingly fit and healthy relatives, with enough energy to workout 2+ hours a day, are essentially being paid out of tax payers money to not work and have holidays abroad. Surely you can understand people being dubious in these situations.

It is views like his that means people who claim for MH are just looked at like they are cheating.
I have stacks of evidence for my MH struggles. I didnt just go to my GP and ask them to tick a box.
My evidence was things like sections etc. You cant fake that.

You know them better so I am curious as to why you would think anyone on here would know any better.
PIP is not an out of work benefit.

@NuovaPilbeamwhat are u basing that on? Maybe all those snowflakes need a stint in the army or something to toughen them up.

Hate how MN is so right wing now but I guess reflects our society right now.

Agreed. PIP for ADHD for instance.

Maybe schizophrenia.