Now the Australians are protesting

SlieveMiskish · 08/09/2025 23:25

If you want a real laugh, they’re also flying flags at half mast over immigration in Ireland. I mean we Irish people have been emigrating since God knows when. I think the statistic in England is that up to 25% of British people have an Irish ancestry. And as for the Irish Americans, I don’t know how we got them.🙈 We are in Australia too! the Worlds gone daft.

HoskinsChoice · 08/09/2025 23:34

Australia is well known for having a deep-seated culture of racism going back years. Far, far longer and more widespread than the recent issues of the far right upsurge we have seen in Europe and the US. This is not new news although it doesn't make the story any the less saddening.

Remaker · 08/09/2025 23:50

I am Australian, lived here all my life. It took me so much by surprise that seemingly out of nowhere it’s the Indian community that are being targeted. It’s like the racists spun a wheel or something and their number came up.

My son goes to a very multicultural school and the vast majority of his friends are not white (we are). It stresses me out that these lovely, intelligent boys could be targeted by racist thugs just for going about their business.

HoppingPavlova · 09/09/2025 00:03

Australian here, who has close friends who are many different nationalities by birth (including Indian, Chinese) but are Australian, and I fully expect likely all my kids will partner and marry ‘non-white’ Australians, which is absolutely fine.

I’m not protesting but I think you are confused about what is being protested about. It’s not about not wanting non-white people in Australia at all, it’s not about not wanting Indian doctors and nurses in Australia, it’s about not wanting white Australians to be made second class citizens under non-white Australians which is where white Australians now see Australia going.

Here are some personal examples:

Some of my kids were looking to purchase a place, and DH and/or I would go with them to viewings (so experienced this first hand), around a third of places viewed the real estate agent straight up said they refused to sell to them as they were not Indian. They said we didn’t understand but the suburbs we were looking in were only for Indians so they would only sell to Indians. Refused to take offers. One literally threatened us when I joked and said I should get an Indian friend to come to viewings and make offers, indicated lives would be in danger if a white Australian purchased.

In other suburbs kids were looking at, many new build unit blocks. All brochures and sales were in Chinese only for that suburb and the minute you tried to talk to a sales rep ‘No English, Chinese only’ (said in English). All of this nonsense about white Australians not being able to live in certain suburbs means being pushed back from the CBD’s with longer commutes in.

With the place some of my kids ended up in, the Strata committee for the building are trying to hold meetings in a non-English language only. Kids are happy for it to be held in both languages given the majority of residents are native speakers of another language, but that’s not good enough, the committee don’t want English used at all, which means my kids can’t attend meetings or vote.

I was recently refused service at another nationalities restaurant. Went there with friends of that nationality. We sat down, restaurant made it clear to my friends that they didn’t serve white-Australians and didn’t want them in the restaurant. It’s a large restaurant in a CBD suburb. Friends were mortified, had a huge fight with restaurant and we left as they were not going to budge.

None of this is new per se, when my adult kids were at school, there was usually less than 5% white Australian kids there. That was the demographic of the areas we lived in as our preference was to live close to my work (major city hospitals) rather than out in the ‘white’ beach suburbs. The kids at school were fine but many of the parents would tell their kids not to associate with white Australians as they were ‘stupidly and lazy, and will make you get bad grades’ because I guess somehow you catch that??? Not all, I’ve got some great non-white Australian parents who became great friends, but it was the majority. My great hope was those parents would see first hand this was not true and that would stamp this nonsense out but it’s just gone further and further over the years.

That’s the basis of the current protests. Yes, it is about racism I guess, but it’s that white Australians are now sick and tired of the racism being directed at them and that they are being pushed out, and just want the current environment rolled back to an even footing.

Daygloboo · 09/09/2025 00:07

MiddleAgedMusings · 08/09/2025 23:17

Their main target is Indians.
Indians. Who have come legally - not on boats - but on aeroplanes, with the correct visas, who are students seeking further education in order to train as doctors, nurses, or whatever so that they can give back to Australia - Or they are already trained in a profession that the government has outlined has a shortage.

Australia is absolutely solid to get into with specific qualifications or experience being a mandatory requirement and the financial means to support one self. The whole western world constantly puts Australia on a pedestal for not being a soft touch for immigration. How are these protesters questioning the value of this diaspora's contribution to the Australian economy, and how can anybody deny that it's pure racism?

Australia doesn't have a problem luring white British nurses and doctors to their shores with generous repatriation packages, but an Indian nurse or doctor aren't good enough. Australians don't have a problem with their white teenagers or graduates emigrating to western countries for 10 years before fucking off back to Australia when it's time to settle down, but god forbid anybody does it the other way

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/sep/05/melbourne-immigration-migrated-indians-targeted-racist-messaging-asking-why-ntwnfbArticle
Link will work without paywall, press downwards arrow.

Australia's always been racist. What about their treatment if aboriginal people. Why are you so shocked. This idea that,Australia is some promised land is bollocks.

Remaker · 09/09/2025 00:13

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alwayscrashinginthesamecar1 · 09/09/2025 00:14

Daygloboo · 09/09/2025 00:07

Australia's always been racist. What about their treatment if aboriginal people. Why are you so shocked. This idea that,Australia is some promised land is bollocks.

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Australia has some racists, like every other country. It is no more racist than the UK or Ireland, I have lived in all three countries. So please stop with the lazy generalisations, most Aussies I know are horrified by these protests as they are used to and enjoy living in a very multi-cultural community.

Dangermoos · 09/09/2025 00:17

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I thought her post wouldn't sit right with some. You're part of the reason why patriots are flying their flags and out protesting.

Clonakilla · 09/09/2025 00:17

HoppingPavlova · 09/09/2025 00:03

Australian here, who has close friends who are many different nationalities by birth (including Indian, Chinese) but are Australian, and I fully expect likely all my kids will partner and marry ‘non-white’ Australians, which is absolutely fine.

I’m not protesting but I think you are confused about what is being protested about. It’s not about not wanting non-white people in Australia at all, it’s not about not wanting Indian doctors and nurses in Australia, it’s about not wanting white Australians to be made second class citizens under non-white Australians which is where white Australians now see Australia going.

Here are some personal examples:

Some of my kids were looking to purchase a place, and DH and/or I would go with them to viewings (so experienced this first hand), around a third of places viewed the real estate agent straight up said they refused to sell to them as they were not Indian. They said we didn’t understand but the suburbs we were looking in were only for Indians so they would only sell to Indians. Refused to take offers. One literally threatened us when I joked and said I should get an Indian friend to come to viewings and make offers, indicated lives would be in danger if a white Australian purchased.

In other suburbs kids were looking at, many new build unit blocks. All brochures and sales were in Chinese only for that suburb and the minute you tried to talk to a sales rep ‘No English, Chinese only’ (said in English). All of this nonsense about white Australians not being able to live in certain suburbs means being pushed back from the CBD’s with longer commutes in.

With the place some of my kids ended up in, the Strata committee for the building are trying to hold meetings in a non-English language only. Kids are happy for it to be held in both languages given the majority of residents are native speakers of another language, but that’s not good enough, the committee don’t want English used at all, which means my kids can’t attend meetings or vote.

I was recently refused service at another nationalities restaurant. Went there with friends of that nationality. We sat down, restaurant made it clear to my friends that they didn’t serve white-Australians and didn’t want them in the restaurant. It’s a large restaurant in a CBD suburb. Friends were mortified, had a huge fight with restaurant and we left as they were not going to budge.

None of this is new per se, when my adult kids were at school, there was usually less than 5% white Australian kids there. That was the demographic of the areas we lived in as our preference was to live close to my work (major city hospitals) rather than out in the ‘white’ beach suburbs. The kids at school were fine but many of the parents would tell their kids not to associate with white Australians as they were ‘stupidly and lazy, and will make you get bad grades’ because I guess somehow you catch that??? Not all, I’ve got some great non-white Australian parents who became great friends, but it was the majority. My great hope was those parents would see first hand this was not true and that would stamp this nonsense out but it’s just gone further and further over the years.

That’s the basis of the current protests. Yes, it is about racism I guess, but it’s that white Australians are now sick and tired of the racism being directed at them and that they are being pushed out, and just want the current environment rolled back to an even footing.

What a pile of shit.

White Australians - I am one - don’t experience racism.

I’m also a migrant. Just not the kind of migrant these disgusting protestors mean. I’m white, speak English, and now have an Australian accent.

I can only be grateful that such a small number of racists turned up to the recent protests.

powershowerforanhour · 09/09/2025 00:19

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Remaker · 09/09/2025 00:20

Daygloboo · 09/09/2025 00:07

Australia's always been racist. What about their treatment if aboriginal people. Why are you so shocked. This idea that,Australia is some promised land is bollocks.

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Well it might blow your mind that it was an indigenous politician who has accused the government of deliberately targeting the Indian community as migrants because they will all apparently vote Labor. Gosh their elections must be boring in India if 1.5 billion people all vote the same way!

And this is the problem. It’s self serving politicians with no morals who try to harness the prejudices of the voters to further their own careers. Not just in Australia either.

ReadingSoManyThreads · 09/09/2025 00:20

SlieveMiskish · 08/09/2025 23:25

If you want a real laugh, they’re also flying flags at half mast over immigration in Ireland. I mean we Irish people have been emigrating since God knows when. I think the statistic in England is that up to 25% of British people have an Irish ancestry. And as for the Irish Americans, I don’t know how we got them.🙈 We are in Australia too! the Worlds gone daft.

There's a huge difference between legal immigration and illegal immigration.

Daygloboo · 09/09/2025 00:21

alwayscrashinginthesamecar1 · 09/09/2025 00:14

Australia has some racists, like every other country. It is no more racist than the UK or Ireland, I have lived in all three countries. So please stop with the lazy generalisations, most Aussies I know are horrified by these protests as they are used to and enjoy living in a very multi-cultural community.

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That's not true. The truly appalling treatment of Aboriginal people is very well known. Why are you trying to.minimize that? Everybody knows about that.

2021x · 09/09/2025 00:26

Daygloboo · 09/09/2025 00:21

That's not true. The truly appalling treatment of Aboriginal people is very well known. Why are you trying to.minimize that? Everybody knows about that.

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British and Irish people treated aborigial people appaulingingly.. they then became Australian.

Colonisation is the history of how every civilisation existing today is still here.

Australians in general are no more racist than any other society.

Shitmonger · 09/09/2025 00:57

SlieveMiskish · 08/09/2025 23:25

If you want a real laugh, they’re also flying flags at half mast over immigration in Ireland. I mean we Irish people have been emigrating since God knows when. I think the statistic in England is that up to 25% of British people have an Irish ancestry. And as for the Irish Americans, I don’t know how we got them.🙈 We are in Australia too! the Worlds gone daft.

Presumably because over 6 million Irish immigrated to the United States, which is more than the current population of 5.2 million and therefore quite statistically significant.

sweetgingercat · 09/09/2025 01:25

@Remaker · Yesterday 23:50

It took me so much by surprise that seemingly out of nowhere it’s the Indian community that are being targeted. It’s like the racists spun a wheel or something and their number came up.

I'm surprised you're surprised. I spent a year in Australia thirty years ago and the racism against Aborigines was deeply, deeply upsetting and amazingly brushed off as insignificant by most Australians I met. At the same time Strictly Ballroom was just out, with its sub-plot about racism against Spanish immigrants. If you tolerate racism against one ethnic group, then it's too easy to spin the wheel like that and target another.

HoppingPavlova · 09/09/2025 01:40

@Clonakilla What a pile of shit

Not a pile of shit. That’s lived experience. In Sydney. In 2025 (although the stuff with my kids at school did go back 20 years, but all else is recent).

VoulezVouz · 09/09/2025 01:47

Daygloboo · 09/09/2025 00:21

That's not true. The truly appalling treatment of Aboriginal people is very well known. Why are you trying to.minimize that? Everybody knows about that.

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Who colonised Australia? Which country imported their criminals and more wealthy settlers? Let’s see … England. It was the British that inflicted these traumas on the indigenous people of Australia.

VoulezVouz · 09/09/2025 01:51

sweetgingercat · 09/09/2025 01:25

@Remaker · Yesterday 23:50

It took me so much by surprise that seemingly out of nowhere it’s the Indian community that are being targeted. It’s like the racists spun a wheel or something and their number came up.

I'm surprised you're surprised. I spent a year in Australia thirty years ago and the racism against Aborigines was deeply, deeply upsetting and amazingly brushed off as insignificant by most Australians I met. At the same time Strictly Ballroom was just out, with its sub-plot about racism against Spanish immigrants. If you tolerate racism against one ethnic group, then it's too easy to spin the wheel like that and target another.

You spent some time in a place 30 years ago and you think your anecdote might still be relevant?

Zooeyzebra · 09/09/2025 01:52

HoppingPavlova · 09/09/2025 00:03

Australian here, who has close friends who are many different nationalities by birth (including Indian, Chinese) but are Australian, and I fully expect likely all my kids will partner and marry ‘non-white’ Australians, which is absolutely fine.

I’m not protesting but I think you are confused about what is being protested about. It’s not about not wanting non-white people in Australia at all, it’s not about not wanting Indian doctors and nurses in Australia, it’s about not wanting white Australians to be made second class citizens under non-white Australians which is where white Australians now see Australia going.

Here are some personal examples:

Some of my kids were looking to purchase a place, and DH and/or I would go with them to viewings (so experienced this first hand), around a third of places viewed the real estate agent straight up said they refused to sell to them as they were not Indian. They said we didn’t understand but the suburbs we were looking in were only for Indians so they would only sell to Indians. Refused to take offers. One literally threatened us when I joked and said I should get an Indian friend to come to viewings and make offers, indicated lives would be in danger if a white Australian purchased.

In other suburbs kids were looking at, many new build unit blocks. All brochures and sales were in Chinese only for that suburb and the minute you tried to talk to a sales rep ‘No English, Chinese only’ (said in English). All of this nonsense about white Australians not being able to live in certain suburbs means being pushed back from the CBD’s with longer commutes in.

With the place some of my kids ended up in, the Strata committee for the building are trying to hold meetings in a non-English language only. Kids are happy for it to be held in both languages given the majority of residents are native speakers of another language, but that’s not good enough, the committee don’t want English used at all, which means my kids can’t attend meetings or vote.

I was recently refused service at another nationalities restaurant. Went there with friends of that nationality. We sat down, restaurant made it clear to my friends that they didn’t serve white-Australians and didn’t want them in the restaurant. It’s a large restaurant in a CBD suburb. Friends were mortified, had a huge fight with restaurant and we left as they were not going to budge.

None of this is new per se, when my adult kids were at school, there was usually less than 5% white Australian kids there. That was the demographic of the areas we lived in as our preference was to live close to my work (major city hospitals) rather than out in the ‘white’ beach suburbs. The kids at school were fine but many of the parents would tell their kids not to associate with white Australians as they were ‘stupidly and lazy, and will make you get bad grades’ because I guess somehow you catch that??? Not all, I’ve got some great non-white Australian parents who became great friends, but it was the majority. My great hope was those parents would see first hand this was not true and that would stamp this nonsense out but it’s just gone further and further over the years.

That’s the basis of the current protests. Yes, it is about racism I guess, but it’s that white Australians are now sick and tired of the racism being directed at them and that they are being pushed out, and just want the current environment rolled back to an even footing.

Which area of Sydney is this? Does not sound familiar for me in the area I live in. Or the many, many different areas I travel to on a weekly basis for kids sport. What a load of rubbish to stir up trouble. You should be ashamed of yourself

Remaker · 09/09/2025 03:16

HoppingPavlova · 09/09/2025 01:40

@Clonakilla What a pile of shit

Not a pile of shit. That’s lived experience. In Sydney. In 2025 (although the stuff with my kids at school did go back 20 years, but all else is recent).

Sydney? That’s been my home for almost 40 years. My kids have had their entire schooling in very multicultural schools - not 20 years ago, right now. We live in a suburb with a significant percentage of south Asian residents. We spend every weekend on the sports sidelines with people from all over the world. Kind, friendly, hilarious, down to earth parents who work hard and love supporting their kids. I’d spend time with them every day of the week over brainless idiots waving flags and calling themselves patriots.

Remaker · 09/09/2025 03:23

sweetgingercat · 09/09/2025 01:25

@Remaker · Yesterday 23:50

It took me so much by surprise that seemingly out of nowhere it’s the Indian community that are being targeted. It’s like the racists spun a wheel or something and their number came up.

I'm surprised you're surprised. I spent a year in Australia thirty years ago and the racism against Aborigines was deeply, deeply upsetting and amazingly brushed off as insignificant by most Australians I met. At the same time Strictly Ballroom was just out, with its sub-plot about racism against Spanish immigrants. If you tolerate racism against one ethnic group, then it's too easy to spin the wheel like that and target another.

Wow you’re such an expert about a country you once visited. I’m married to an English guy and visit the UK every couple of years but I wouldn’t be telling my in-laws that I understand their culture better than they do.

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Timeforabitofpeace · 09/09/2025 03:56

SlieveMiskish · 08/09/2025 23:25

If you want a real laugh, they’re also flying flags at half mast over immigration in Ireland. I mean we Irish people have been emigrating since God knows when. I think the statistic in England is that up to 25% of British people have an Irish ancestry. And as for the Irish Americans, I don’t know how we got them.🙈 We are in Australia too! the Worlds gone daft.

Oh, in every country it’s often the same people who think they should be able to do it. I’m not sure how aware they are of the hypocrisy.

hmmmmmmm1990 · 09/09/2025 04:03

HoppingPavlova · 09/09/2025 00:03

Australian here, who has close friends who are many different nationalities by birth (including Indian, Chinese) but are Australian, and I fully expect likely all my kids will partner and marry ‘non-white’ Australians, which is absolutely fine.

I’m not protesting but I think you are confused about what is being protested about. It’s not about not wanting non-white people in Australia at all, it’s not about not wanting Indian doctors and nurses in Australia, it’s about not wanting white Australians to be made second class citizens under non-white Australians which is where white Australians now see Australia going.

Here are some personal examples:

Some of my kids were looking to purchase a place, and DH and/or I would go with them to viewings (so experienced this first hand), around a third of places viewed the real estate agent straight up said they refused to sell to them as they were not Indian. They said we didn’t understand but the suburbs we were looking in were only for Indians so they would only sell to Indians. Refused to take offers. One literally threatened us when I joked and said I should get an Indian friend to come to viewings and make offers, indicated lives would be in danger if a white Australian purchased.

In other suburbs kids were looking at, many new build unit blocks. All brochures and sales were in Chinese only for that suburb and the minute you tried to talk to a sales rep ‘No English, Chinese only’ (said in English). All of this nonsense about white Australians not being able to live in certain suburbs means being pushed back from the CBD’s with longer commutes in.

With the place some of my kids ended up in, the Strata committee for the building are trying to hold meetings in a non-English language only. Kids are happy for it to be held in both languages given the majority of residents are native speakers of another language, but that’s not good enough, the committee don’t want English used at all, which means my kids can’t attend meetings or vote.

I was recently refused service at another nationalities restaurant. Went there with friends of that nationality. We sat down, restaurant made it clear to my friends that they didn’t serve white-Australians and didn’t want them in the restaurant. It’s a large restaurant in a CBD suburb. Friends were mortified, had a huge fight with restaurant and we left as they were not going to budge.

None of this is new per se, when my adult kids were at school, there was usually less than 5% white Australian kids there. That was the demographic of the areas we lived in as our preference was to live close to my work (major city hospitals) rather than out in the ‘white’ beach suburbs. The kids at school were fine but many of the parents would tell their kids not to associate with white Australians as they were ‘stupidly and lazy, and will make you get bad grades’ because I guess somehow you catch that??? Not all, I’ve got some great non-white Australian parents who became great friends, but it was the majority. My great hope was those parents would see first hand this was not true and that would stamp this nonsense out but it’s just gone further and further over the years.

That’s the basis of the current protests. Yes, it is about racism I guess, but it’s that white Australians are now sick and tired of the racism being directed at them and that they are being pushed out, and just want the current environment rolled back to an even footing.

Absolute bullshit.