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Now the Australians are protesting

430 replies

MiddleAgedMusings · 08/09/2025 23:17

Their main target is Indians.
Indians. Who have come legally - not on boats - but on aeroplanes, with the correct visas, who are students seeking further education in order to train as doctors, nurses, or whatever so that they can give back to Australia - Or they are already trained in a profession that the government has outlined has a shortage.

Australia is absolutely solid to get into with specific qualifications or experience being a mandatory requirement and the financial means to support one self. The whole western world constantly puts Australia on a pedestal for not being a soft touch for immigration. How are these protesters questioning the value of this diaspora's contribution to the Australian economy, and how can anybody deny that it's pure racism?

Australia doesn't have a problem luring white British nurses and doctors to their shores with generous repatriation packages, but an Indian nurse or doctor aren't good enough. Australians don't have a problem with their white teenagers or graduates emigrating to western countries for 10 years before fucking off back to Australia when it's time to settle down, but god forbid anybody does it the other way

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/sep/05/melbourne-immigration-migrated-indians-targeted-racist-messaging-asking-why-ntwnfbArticle
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'Is this the same Melbourne I migrated to?' Indians targeted by racist messaging are asking why them

Shock and concern as ‘peace-loving and law-abiding’ community subjected to ‘hateful behaviour’

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/sep/05/melbourne-immigration-migrated-indians-targeted-racist-messaging-asking-why-ntwnfb

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SerafinasGoose · 09/09/2025 08:58

It's a horribly racist country, and the whole thing is deeply ironic. Sally Morgan, a First Nation writer and artist, wrote a biography of her quest to find her aboriginal identity - precisely because she'd been raised until 15 years of age to believe she was Indian.

First Nation people had to pretend they were Indian on fear of being removed from their own families and raised in orphanages. Morgan had a white father. In the event of a divorce, first nation mothers were not allowed to keep children fathered by white men.

That history is shamefully recent so this news surprises me not one iota.

ThatBlackCat · 09/09/2025 08:59

MissKomodoDragonsBrunch · 09/09/2025 08:57

Not sure where in Australia that would have been? I’ve lived in 4 states and never heard anyone use the term in real life.

Yes. It's not a word that has ever even existed. 'curry muncher' is the racist slur used for those from Pakistan and India.

JHound · 09/09/2025 09:00

HoppingPavlova · 09/09/2025 00:03

Australian here, who has close friends who are many different nationalities by birth (including Indian, Chinese) but are Australian, and I fully expect likely all my kids will partner and marry ‘non-white’ Australians, which is absolutely fine.

I’m not protesting but I think you are confused about what is being protested about. It’s not about not wanting non-white people in Australia at all, it’s not about not wanting Indian doctors and nurses in Australia, it’s about not wanting white Australians to be made second class citizens under non-white Australians which is where white Australians now see Australia going.

Here are some personal examples:

Some of my kids were looking to purchase a place, and DH and/or I would go with them to viewings (so experienced this first hand), around a third of places viewed the real estate agent straight up said they refused to sell to them as they were not Indian. They said we didn’t understand but the suburbs we were looking in were only for Indians so they would only sell to Indians. Refused to take offers. One literally threatened us when I joked and said I should get an Indian friend to come to viewings and make offers, indicated lives would be in danger if a white Australian purchased.

In other suburbs kids were looking at, many new build unit blocks. All brochures and sales were in Chinese only for that suburb and the minute you tried to talk to a sales rep ‘No English, Chinese only’ (said in English). All of this nonsense about white Australians not being able to live in certain suburbs means being pushed back from the CBD’s with longer commutes in.

With the place some of my kids ended up in, the Strata committee for the building are trying to hold meetings in a non-English language only. Kids are happy for it to be held in both languages given the majority of residents are native speakers of another language, but that’s not good enough, the committee don’t want English used at all, which means my kids can’t attend meetings or vote.

I was recently refused service at another nationalities restaurant. Went there with friends of that nationality. We sat down, restaurant made it clear to my friends that they didn’t serve white-Australians and didn’t want them in the restaurant. It’s a large restaurant in a CBD suburb. Friends were mortified, had a huge fight with restaurant and we left as they were not going to budge.

None of this is new per se, when my adult kids were at school, there was usually less than 5% white Australian kids there. That was the demographic of the areas we lived in as our preference was to live close to my work (major city hospitals) rather than out in the ‘white’ beach suburbs. The kids at school were fine but many of the parents would tell their kids not to associate with white Australians as they were ‘stupidly and lazy, and will make you get bad grades’ because I guess somehow you catch that??? Not all, I’ve got some great non-white Australian parents who became great friends, but it was the majority. My great hope was those parents would see first hand this was not true and that would stamp this nonsense out but it’s just gone further and further over the years.

That’s the basis of the current protests. Yes, it is about racism I guess, but it’s that white Australians are now sick and tired of the racism being directed at them and that they are being pushed out, and just want the current environment rolled back to an even footing.

Name the restaurant.

Name the suburb where only Indians can live.

Name the suburb where only Chinese can live or where strata organisations only speak in non-English.

This seems like a convenient set of circumstances to justify a racist protest.

BeanQuisine · 09/09/2025 09:01

EasternStandard · 09/09/2025 08:51

You’ve got to stop attributing any racism you have now with us. It’s nothing to do with here. It’s your own actions now that count. It’s no longer to do with the British.

It's a lingering aspect of our British heritage, but fortunately we've overcome most of it.

Have you?

Dangermoos · 09/09/2025 09:01

JHound · 09/09/2025 09:00

Name the restaurant.

Name the suburb where only Indians can live.

Name the suburb where only Chinese can live or where strata organisations only speak in non-English.

This seems like a convenient set of circumstances to justify a racist protest.

Now apply your interrogation to when a black poster talks about their experience of racism.

JHound · 09/09/2025 09:02

GAJLY · 09/09/2025 08:03

Finally the truth emerges that makes all this make sense. It didn't appear out of no where! I live near an area in the UK that's Muslims only. Only Muslims can live there, attend their school and college and travel through. Once I tried and it was not a good experience. One man told me to "go home".

There is no area in the UK that is for muslims only. Not one.

Dangermoos · 09/09/2025 09:02

JHound · 09/09/2025 09:02

There is no area in the UK that is for muslims only. Not one.

Not formally, no.

JHound · 09/09/2025 09:03

Dangermoos · 09/09/2025 09:01

Now apply your interrogation to when a black poster talks about their experience of racism.

Why are you bringing posters race into things? Take your racism elsewhere. I am an Australian so that’s why I am questioning her claims.

Dangermoos · 09/09/2025 09:04

JHound · 09/09/2025 09:03

Why are you bringing posters race into things? Take your racism elsewhere. I am an Australian so that’s why I am questioning her claims.

Err, because we are discussing racism.

JHound · 09/09/2025 09:04

Dangermoos · 09/09/2025 09:02

Not formally, no.

So none.

Which is what I said.

BeanQuisine · 09/09/2025 09:05

JHound · 09/09/2025 08:51

You can’t keep blaming it on the British. The people protesting NOW are Australians and oppression of indigenuous Australians continued long after independence.

Saying “it was not us it was the Brits” is disingenuous. Many Australians now are the descendants of those “Brits”.

Many Australians now are the descendants of those “Brits”.

That's right, and the remnants of racism that linger in Australia are part of our British heritage. But we're doing a good job of overcoming such negative attitudes, while the British themselves still appear to be struggling.

PrincessFairyWren · 09/09/2025 09:05

JHound · 09/09/2025 08:55

That’s how the Australian education system works. Anything bad was “The Brits”. My friend’s young son is learning about The Stolen Generation and on learning I was British wanted to interrogate me about why the “British stole aboriginal children.”

It’s a very weird way in which modern Australia tries to whitewash his history.

That is not my experience. The stolen generation persisted well into the twentieth century long after Federation. No one that I have ever encountered is blaming the British for that.

However it cannot be denied that colonization of Australia occurred under British rule.

But also many many other immigrants in Australia are also racist. British and Australians don’t have the monopoly on that.

Dangermoos · 09/09/2025 09:05

JHound · 09/09/2025 09:04

So none.

Which is what I said.

Then you don't know the changing culture of Birmingham, for instance.

Dangermoos · 09/09/2025 09:07

BeanQuisine · 09/09/2025 09:05

Many Australians now are the descendants of those “Brits”.

That's right, and the remnants of racism that linger in Australia are part of our British heritage. But we're doing a good job of overcoming such negative attitudes, while the British themselves still appear to be struggling.

The British are now saying they've had enough of being called racists, when they share their concerns about mass immigration.

EasternStandard · 09/09/2025 09:08

BeanQuisine · 09/09/2025 09:05

Many Australians now are the descendants of those “Brits”.

That's right, and the remnants of racism that linger in Australia are part of our British heritage. But we're doing a good job of overcoming such negative attitudes, while the British themselves still appear to be struggling.

No just take responsibility for your country instead. No ‘remnants’. It’s Australians who are accountable.

JHound · 09/09/2025 09:09

BeanQuisine · 09/09/2025 09:01

It's a lingering aspect of our British heritage, but fortunately we've overcome most of it.

Have you?

So racism in modern Australian, conducted by people of diverse origins (there were people on the march who were recent migrants and others who claimed to be Australian of Greek, Lebanese, Italian etc descent) their racism is all due to “The British”.

😂

EasternStandard · 09/09/2025 09:10

BeanQuisine · 09/09/2025 09:01

It's a lingering aspect of our British heritage, but fortunately we've overcome most of it.

Have you?

You clearly haven’t got rid of trying to pass the buck. Time to move on.

BeanQuisine · 09/09/2025 09:11

EasternStandard · 09/09/2025 09:08

No just take responsibility for your country instead. No ‘remnants’. It’s Australians who are accountable.

True, as we've been saying for a long time. It's our more independent attitude that has enabled us to cast aside a lot of the more regrettable aspects of British culture, such as the racism that used to be as common here as it still is in the old country.

Absentosaur · 09/09/2025 09:12

Also, things like trans rights (I won't linger on that as I have my own views) are more 'progressive' than the UK

The Australian view on women is anything but progressive (no surprise whatsoever).

Australia has ruled, as you said that anyone who says they are a woman, is a woman.

So ‘women’ as a sex cease to exist because men can be women, apparently. The opposite ruling to the Supreme Court in the UK who confirmed (😶) that yes biological sex is real and biological sex matters. Thank god.

I support 💯 % all women in Australia campaigning to overturn the original ruling.

JHound · 09/09/2025 09:16

Dangermoos · 09/09/2025 09:05

Then you don't know the changing culture of Birmingham, for instance.

LOL!!

I am literally a born and bred Brummie. And have only lived in inner city areas.

I lived for years in Perry Barr which has a huge muslim population and apart from our neighbour leaving out food for birds we had no issues.

There are no Muslim only areas in the UK.

Your repeated racism and Islamophobia and commenting on cities you are clearly ignorant of bores me.

We’re done here.

Dangermoos · 09/09/2025 09:20

JHound · 09/09/2025 09:16

LOL!!

I am literally a born and bred Brummie. And have only lived in inner city areas.

I lived for years in Perry Barr which has a huge muslim population and apart from our neighbour leaving out food for birds we had no issues.

There are no Muslim only areas in the UK.

Your repeated racism and Islamophobia and commenting on cities you are clearly ignorant of bores me.

We’re done here.

Edited

Ah, so Sparkhill and Bordesley Green are budding examples of white people being welcomed with open arms. I taught in a college in Bordesley Green - sexism was rife but a different thread. Aside from also being born in Brum, my teaching experience qualifies me to discuss, while avoiding the lazy accusation of Islamophobia.

GAJLY · 09/09/2025 09:23

JHound · 09/09/2025 09:02

There is no area in the UK that is for muslims only. Not one.

Before you reply to me I urge you to walk and use public transport through sparkhill, birmingham. It is true. Even though I'm perceived as white, my grandparents came from another country. So I'm not anti anyone.

Now the Australians are protesting
EasternStandard · 09/09/2025 09:24

BeanQuisine · 09/09/2025 09:11

True, as we've been saying for a long time. It's our more independent attitude that has enabled us to cast aside a lot of the more regrettable aspects of British culture, such as the racism that used to be as common here as it still is in the old country.

Yes good to have an independent attitude. Keep going with it. Whether Australia has good or bad parts is entirely down to Australians, not the British. Time to really move on.

Lottie2shoes · 09/09/2025 09:25

Dangermoos · 09/09/2025 09:07

The British are now saying they've had enough of being called racists, when they share their concerns about mass immigration.

This post makes me laugh!!
Seriously, look at all your posts on this thread only, never mind all the other threads i have encountered you on.
You have had enough of being called racist?

IwasatClaines · 09/09/2025 09:28

Dangermoos · 09/09/2025 09:07

The British are now saying they've had enough of being called racists, when they share their concerns about mass immigration.

You won’t like Australia then. We have 30% overseas born here, compared to the UK’s 17%! 50% of the population here has at least one parent born overseas too.

To be fair if the British are fed up with immigration they need to have large families to correct the demographics of an aging population and a smaller young tax base of skilled workers to pay for the essential services. However we are a free society and many women today do not personally want big families. That’s why even the Conservatives couldn’t turn off the immigration tap. Immigrants are on average younger and more skilled than the resident population.

I predict if Reform gets into government, they will dramatically reduce permanent immigration but go with temporary visas, which will allow businesses to bring in large numbers of overseas workers. That’s what the previous “stop the boats!” Government did in Australia. It was their slogan actually and the British have borrowed it. Temporary workers had the effect of reducing wages, because they were put on contracts paying less.