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Now the Australians are protesting

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MiddleAgedMusings · 08/09/2025 23:17

Their main target is Indians.
Indians. Who have come legally - not on boats - but on aeroplanes, with the correct visas, who are students seeking further education in order to train as doctors, nurses, or whatever so that they can give back to Australia - Or they are already trained in a profession that the government has outlined has a shortage.

Australia is absolutely solid to get into with specific qualifications or experience being a mandatory requirement and the financial means to support one self. The whole western world constantly puts Australia on a pedestal for not being a soft touch for immigration. How are these protesters questioning the value of this diaspora's contribution to the Australian economy, and how can anybody deny that it's pure racism?

Australia doesn't have a problem luring white British nurses and doctors to their shores with generous repatriation packages, but an Indian nurse or doctor aren't good enough. Australians don't have a problem with their white teenagers or graduates emigrating to western countries for 10 years before fucking off back to Australia when it's time to settle down, but god forbid anybody does it the other way

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/sep/05/melbourne-immigration-migrated-indians-targeted-racist-messaging-asking-why-ntwnfbArticle
Link will work without paywall, press downwards arrow.

'Is this the same Melbourne I migrated to?' Indians targeted by racist messaging are asking why them

Shock and concern as ‘peace-loving and law-abiding’ community subjected to ‘hateful behaviour’

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/sep/05/melbourne-immigration-migrated-indians-targeted-racist-messaging-asking-why-ntwnfb

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GAJLY · 09/09/2025 08:03

HoppingPavlova · 09/09/2025 00:03

Australian here, who has close friends who are many different nationalities by birth (including Indian, Chinese) but are Australian, and I fully expect likely all my kids will partner and marry ‘non-white’ Australians, which is absolutely fine.

I’m not protesting but I think you are confused about what is being protested about. It’s not about not wanting non-white people in Australia at all, it’s not about not wanting Indian doctors and nurses in Australia, it’s about not wanting white Australians to be made second class citizens under non-white Australians which is where white Australians now see Australia going.

Here are some personal examples:

Some of my kids were looking to purchase a place, and DH and/or I would go with them to viewings (so experienced this first hand), around a third of places viewed the real estate agent straight up said they refused to sell to them as they were not Indian. They said we didn’t understand but the suburbs we were looking in were only for Indians so they would only sell to Indians. Refused to take offers. One literally threatened us when I joked and said I should get an Indian friend to come to viewings and make offers, indicated lives would be in danger if a white Australian purchased.

In other suburbs kids were looking at, many new build unit blocks. All brochures and sales were in Chinese only for that suburb and the minute you tried to talk to a sales rep ‘No English, Chinese only’ (said in English). All of this nonsense about white Australians not being able to live in certain suburbs means being pushed back from the CBD’s with longer commutes in.

With the place some of my kids ended up in, the Strata committee for the building are trying to hold meetings in a non-English language only. Kids are happy for it to be held in both languages given the majority of residents are native speakers of another language, but that’s not good enough, the committee don’t want English used at all, which means my kids can’t attend meetings or vote.

I was recently refused service at another nationalities restaurant. Went there with friends of that nationality. We sat down, restaurant made it clear to my friends that they didn’t serve white-Australians and didn’t want them in the restaurant. It’s a large restaurant in a CBD suburb. Friends were mortified, had a huge fight with restaurant and we left as they were not going to budge.

None of this is new per se, when my adult kids were at school, there was usually less than 5% white Australian kids there. That was the demographic of the areas we lived in as our preference was to live close to my work (major city hospitals) rather than out in the ‘white’ beach suburbs. The kids at school were fine but many of the parents would tell their kids not to associate with white Australians as they were ‘stupidly and lazy, and will make you get bad grades’ because I guess somehow you catch that??? Not all, I’ve got some great non-white Australian parents who became great friends, but it was the majority. My great hope was those parents would see first hand this was not true and that would stamp this nonsense out but it’s just gone further and further over the years.

That’s the basis of the current protests. Yes, it is about racism I guess, but it’s that white Australians are now sick and tired of the racism being directed at them and that they are being pushed out, and just want the current environment rolled back to an even footing.

Finally the truth emerges that makes all this make sense. It didn't appear out of no where! I live near an area in the UK that's Muslims only. Only Muslims can live there, attend their school and college and travel through. Once I tried and it was not a good experience. One man told me to "go home".

ThatBlackCat · 09/09/2025 08:04

BeanQuisine · 09/09/2025 07:53

Yes. According to media reports, the British may well elect Farage and his mob as their next PM/government.

There's no way that could happen in Australia. The Reform equivalents here - like One Nation - never get more than a handful of votes.

At the last federal election, Opposition Leader Dutton went in for various racist dog-whistling, and his party scored their worst ever result, with Dutton himself losing his seat.

All indications are that populist right-wing racism is far more popular in the Old Country than Down Under.

It's also handy that we have compulsory preferential voting here, that would see these minor parties fail. I remember when Pauline Hanson jumped from Oxley to Blair in 1998 (I remember it because I was the campaign secretary for one of the candidates), she came in first on 1 votes, but preferences pushed the Liberal candidate, Cameron Thompson, who was in 3rd place, to first place Two Party Preferred.

If we had first past the post like the UK does, Pauline Hanson would have won that seat. However having to number every square meant Hanson dropped from 1st place to 2nd or third (forget now which, but I know the successful candidate jumped from 3rd to 1st TPP).

I suspect in some seats where One Nation/Palmer United etc poll above say 5 to 10%, if we had the UK system we'd have a similar problem as UK with Reform. Thank god/godess/Australia/whatever that we have compulsory preferential voting!

raininginlanzarote · 09/09/2025 08:04

It would be fascinating to see a map of populations if everyone went back to ‘where they came from’.

I am predominantly Anglo Saxon with a bit of Germanic blood, my husband has a bit of Irish. If you say go back 10 generations ( a random figure) or 500 years, I wonder what the countries would look like. Australia would be pretty empty!!

Bringmeahigherlove · 09/09/2025 08:05

HoskinsChoice · 08/09/2025 23:34

Australia is well known for having a deep-seated culture of racism going back years. Far, far longer and more widespread than the recent issues of the far right upsurge we have seen in Europe and the US. This is not new news although it doesn't make the story any the less saddening.

Correct, it is sadly no surprise. The whole country was created on racist beliefs - the idea that the indigenous people were wasteful, barbarians, uncivilised and only white Europeans could truly make use of the land.

EasternStandard · 09/09/2025 08:06

HoppingPavlova · 09/09/2025 00:03

Australian here, who has close friends who are many different nationalities by birth (including Indian, Chinese) but are Australian, and I fully expect likely all my kids will partner and marry ‘non-white’ Australians, which is absolutely fine.

I’m not protesting but I think you are confused about what is being protested about. It’s not about not wanting non-white people in Australia at all, it’s not about not wanting Indian doctors and nurses in Australia, it’s about not wanting white Australians to be made second class citizens under non-white Australians which is where white Australians now see Australia going.

Here are some personal examples:

Some of my kids were looking to purchase a place, and DH and/or I would go with them to viewings (so experienced this first hand), around a third of places viewed the real estate agent straight up said they refused to sell to them as they were not Indian. They said we didn’t understand but the suburbs we were looking in were only for Indians so they would only sell to Indians. Refused to take offers. One literally threatened us when I joked and said I should get an Indian friend to come to viewings and make offers, indicated lives would be in danger if a white Australian purchased.

In other suburbs kids were looking at, many new build unit blocks. All brochures and sales were in Chinese only for that suburb and the minute you tried to talk to a sales rep ‘No English, Chinese only’ (said in English). All of this nonsense about white Australians not being able to live in certain suburbs means being pushed back from the CBD’s with longer commutes in.

With the place some of my kids ended up in, the Strata committee for the building are trying to hold meetings in a non-English language only. Kids are happy for it to be held in both languages given the majority of residents are native speakers of another language, but that’s not good enough, the committee don’t want English used at all, which means my kids can’t attend meetings or vote.

I was recently refused service at another nationalities restaurant. Went there with friends of that nationality. We sat down, restaurant made it clear to my friends that they didn’t serve white-Australians and didn’t want them in the restaurant. It’s a large restaurant in a CBD suburb. Friends were mortified, had a huge fight with restaurant and we left as they were not going to budge.

None of this is new per se, when my adult kids were at school, there was usually less than 5% white Australian kids there. That was the demographic of the areas we lived in as our preference was to live close to my work (major city hospitals) rather than out in the ‘white’ beach suburbs. The kids at school were fine but many of the parents would tell their kids not to associate with white Australians as they were ‘stupidly and lazy, and will make you get bad grades’ because I guess somehow you catch that??? Not all, I’ve got some great non-white Australian parents who became great friends, but it was the majority. My great hope was those parents would see first hand this was not true and that would stamp this nonsense out but it’s just gone further and further over the years.

That’s the basis of the current protests. Yes, it is about racism I guess, but it’s that white Australians are now sick and tired of the racism being directed at them and that they are being pushed out, and just want the current environment rolled back to an even footing.

I can’t attest to your experience but didn’t Labor just get back in? Are they seen as responsible for what’s happening or are they still well liked?

Dangermoos · 09/09/2025 08:13

EasternStandard · 09/09/2025 08:06

I can’t attest to your experience but didn’t Labor just get back in? Are they seen as responsible for what’s happening or are they still well liked?

Yes, the poster's experience would seem to reflect Labour's denigration of the white man and woman. A bit like a few other posters on this thread.

Daygloboo · 09/09/2025 08:16

Bringmeahigherlove · 09/09/2025 08:05

Correct, it is sadly no surprise. The whole country was created on racist beliefs - the idea that the indigenous people were wasteful, barbarians, uncivilised and only white Europeans could truly make use of the land.

Quite. Amd some Australians on here are clearly suffering from.ammesia

Galdownunder · 09/09/2025 08:18

HoppingPavlova · 09/09/2025 00:03

Australian here, who has close friends who are many different nationalities by birth (including Indian, Chinese) but are Australian, and I fully expect likely all my kids will partner and marry ‘non-white’ Australians, which is absolutely fine.

I’m not protesting but I think you are confused about what is being protested about. It’s not about not wanting non-white people in Australia at all, it’s not about not wanting Indian doctors and nurses in Australia, it’s about not wanting white Australians to be made second class citizens under non-white Australians which is where white Australians now see Australia going.

Here are some personal examples:

Some of my kids were looking to purchase a place, and DH and/or I would go with them to viewings (so experienced this first hand), around a third of places viewed the real estate agent straight up said they refused to sell to them as they were not Indian. They said we didn’t understand but the suburbs we were looking in were only for Indians so they would only sell to Indians. Refused to take offers. One literally threatened us when I joked and said I should get an Indian friend to come to viewings and make offers, indicated lives would be in danger if a white Australian purchased.

In other suburbs kids were looking at, many new build unit blocks. All brochures and sales were in Chinese only for that suburb and the minute you tried to talk to a sales rep ‘No English, Chinese only’ (said in English). All of this nonsense about white Australians not being able to live in certain suburbs means being pushed back from the CBD’s with longer commutes in.

With the place some of my kids ended up in, the Strata committee for the building are trying to hold meetings in a non-English language only. Kids are happy for it to be held in both languages given the majority of residents are native speakers of another language, but that’s not good enough, the committee don’t want English used at all, which means my kids can’t attend meetings or vote.

I was recently refused service at another nationalities restaurant. Went there with friends of that nationality. We sat down, restaurant made it clear to my friends that they didn’t serve white-Australians and didn’t want them in the restaurant. It’s a large restaurant in a CBD suburb. Friends were mortified, had a huge fight with restaurant and we left as they were not going to budge.

None of this is new per se, when my adult kids were at school, there was usually less than 5% white Australian kids there. That was the demographic of the areas we lived in as our preference was to live close to my work (major city hospitals) rather than out in the ‘white’ beach suburbs. The kids at school were fine but many of the parents would tell their kids not to associate with white Australians as they were ‘stupidly and lazy, and will make you get bad grades’ because I guess somehow you catch that??? Not all, I’ve got some great non-white Australian parents who became great friends, but it was the majority. My great hope was those parents would see first hand this was not true and that would stamp this nonsense out but it’s just gone further and further over the years.

That’s the basis of the current protests. Yes, it is about racism I guess, but it’s that white Australians are now sick and tired of the racism being directed at them and that they are being pushed out, and just want the current environment rolled back to an even footing.

I live in Sydney and have done all my life. There is literally nowhere that people can be refused properly because theyre black or white, or service, or attendance at a school. The poster above inhabits fictional realms at best. We do have a lot to answer for in our history with regard to the indigenous peoples- that is a shame we'll never recover from but the story above is complete fantasy. If it's not I hope the poster will name this suburb.

grizzlyoldbear · 09/09/2025 08:19

Disgraceful and sickening behaviour

Soukmyfalafel · 09/09/2025 08:19

VoulezVouz · 09/09/2025 01:47

Who colonised Australia? Which country imported their criminals and more wealthy settlers? Let’s see … England. It was the British that inflicted these traumas on the indigenous people of Australia.

What makes me laugh about British people and their views on immigration is that it is perfectly alright to send our retired people who no longer work and our criminals to Spain (people migrate to other countries for a better life and end up getting misled by into crime by gangs, it is not unique to the UK). I think people are totally oblivious to their hypocrisy sometimes.

VoulezVouz · 09/09/2025 08:20

MyHeartyCoralSnail · 09/09/2025 08:03

So you are confirming that the poster is correct and areas exist how she describes - the fact you can identify areas that meet her description (whether or not these are the areas she means) seems to confirm her comments.

So you are basically saying there’s areas of Sydney where white Australians should live and areas they shouldn’t?

I’m saying that, as it has always been since people have moved from one place to another, they seek out familiarity. That is human nature. However, I don’t agree that entire suburbs are closed off to other ethnicities, nor that real estate agents would refuse to sell to Caucasian Australians.

zaazaazoom · 09/09/2025 08:22

alwayscrashinginthesamecar1 · 09/09/2025 00:14

Australia has some racists, like every other country. It is no more racist than the UK or Ireland, I have lived in all three countries. So please stop with the lazy generalisations, most Aussies I know are horrified by these protests as they are used to and enjoy living in a very multi-cultural community.

Sorry but in my experience it is much more racist. My friends who are asian (Pakistani and Indian heritage) i had lived in the uk couldn't believe how much raciam hey came across in only 6 months. Compared to their whole lives.

VoulezVouz · 09/09/2025 08:23

Daygloboo · 09/09/2025 08:03

Do you ?

I do. What do you know about mass slaughter of the indigenous population by the British?

Dangermoos · 09/09/2025 08:24

VoulezVouz · 09/09/2025 08:23

I do. What do you know about mass slaughter of the indigenous population by the British?

Not even 9 am and we've got a day ahead of British bashing. Lovely.

ThatBlackCat · 09/09/2025 08:25

Dangermoos · 09/09/2025 08:24

Not even 9 am and we've got a day ahead of British bashing. Lovely.

This thread appears to be about Aussie bashing. Not British bashing.

KimberleyClark · 09/09/2025 08:26

Daygloboo · 09/09/2025 00:21

That's not true. The truly appalling treatment of Aboriginal people is very well known. Why are you trying to.minimize that? Everybody knows about that.

There is still institutional racism towards the indigenous population in Australia.

https://news.un.org/en/story/2023/04/1135827

First Person: Aboriginal Australians suffer from ‘violent history’ and ongoing ‘institutional racism’

  Decisions made at the UN can push governments to improve the rights of indigenous peoples, who still face discrimination, says Aboriginal Australian activist and human rights lawyer Hannah McGlade.

https://news.un.org/en/story/2023/04/1135827

VoulezVouz · 09/09/2025 08:27

Dangermoos · 09/09/2025 08:13

Yes, the poster's experience would seem to reflect Labour's denigration of the white man and woman. A bit like a few other posters on this thread.

Disgusting post, and not relevant. In Australia, the spelling is ‘Labor Party’.

VoulezVouz · 09/09/2025 08:30

Dangermoos · 09/09/2025 08:24

Not even 9 am and we've got a day ahead of British bashing. Lovely.

So you don’t know, then? And this thread is all about bashing Australia, isn’t it? Sorry to go against that.

Dangermoos · 09/09/2025 08:30

VoulezVouz · 09/09/2025 08:27

Disgusting post, and not relevant. In Australia, the spelling is ‘Labor Party’.

Oh I do beg your pardon. Wolves in sheeps' clothing have the same effect, no matter how they spell their negative tribe.

EasternStandard · 09/09/2025 08:32

VoulezVouz · 09/09/2025 08:23

I do. What do you know about mass slaughter of the indigenous population by the British?

Australians surely must take responsibility now for whatever is happening there.

BeanQuisine · 09/09/2025 08:35

Bringmeahigherlove · 09/09/2025 08:05

Correct, it is sadly no surprise. The whole country was created on racist beliefs - the idea that the indigenous people were wasteful, barbarians, uncivilised and only white Europeans could truly make use of the land.

True, Australia was founded on European - specifically British - racism.

But while Australia has moved far beyond that, with the majority of the population embracing a much more ethnically diverse population and culture for some generations now, Britain and much of "Old Europe" are still struggling to break out of the old white supremacist mould.

And with the rise and rise of Farage and Reform, it looks like that struggle is set to continue for a long time yet.

VoulezVouz · 09/09/2025 08:36

Dangermoos · 09/09/2025 08:30

Oh I do beg your pardon. Wolves in sheeps' clothing have the same effect, no matter how they spell their negative tribe.

Do you even live in Australia? You seem to be placing an interpretation gained from another country or system entirely on this Labor Party, simply because it is called the Labor Party and is somewhat liberal (although really, it is more centrist). Just a bit strange.

Dangermoos · 09/09/2025 08:37

BeanQuisine · 09/09/2025 08:35

True, Australia was founded on European - specifically British - racism.

But while Australia has moved far beyond that, with the majority of the population embracing a much more ethnically diverse population and culture for some generations now, Britain and much of "Old Europe" are still struggling to break out of the old white supremacist mould.

And with the rise and rise of Farage and Reform, it looks like that struggle is set to continue for a long time yet.

Edited

For your white supremism, I raise you the awakening of the failure of multiculturalism.

Nearly50omg · 09/09/2025 08:38

alwayscrashinginthesamecar1 · 09/09/2025 00:14

Australia has some racists, like every other country. It is no more racist than the UK or Ireland, I have lived in all three countries. So please stop with the lazy generalisations, most Aussies I know are horrified by these protests as they are used to and enjoy living in a very multi-cultural community.

Are you having a laugh???!!! Australia is the most racist country in the world!! Not just racism but discrimination of any disability or difference that makes you stand out in public!

Summerlilly · 09/09/2025 08:40

Dangermoos · 09/09/2025 08:24

Not even 9 am and we've got a day ahead of British bashing. Lovely.

What British bashing?

So far this thread is just a bunch of Brit’s slagging off the Aussies
If the Aussies on here defend themselves they are told they are wrong and racist.
”I was in Aus 20 years ago” “or I was there two weeks last year so I know you’re all racist”

Im a Brit living in Aus with my Irish husband. This country is not perfect, but no one should be throwing stones at one another from the other side of world.
If any stones should be thrown it’s at the scum that aligns themselves with the neo nazis.