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Now the Australians are protesting

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MiddleAgedMusings · 08/09/2025 23:17

Their main target is Indians.
Indians. Who have come legally - not on boats - but on aeroplanes, with the correct visas, who are students seeking further education in order to train as doctors, nurses, or whatever so that they can give back to Australia - Or they are already trained in a profession that the government has outlined has a shortage.

Australia is absolutely solid to get into with specific qualifications or experience being a mandatory requirement and the financial means to support one self. The whole western world constantly puts Australia on a pedestal for not being a soft touch for immigration. How are these protesters questioning the value of this diaspora's contribution to the Australian economy, and how can anybody deny that it's pure racism?

Australia doesn't have a problem luring white British nurses and doctors to their shores with generous repatriation packages, but an Indian nurse or doctor aren't good enough. Australians don't have a problem with their white teenagers or graduates emigrating to western countries for 10 years before fucking off back to Australia when it's time to settle down, but god forbid anybody does it the other way

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/sep/05/melbourne-immigration-migrated-indians-targeted-racist-messaging-asking-why-ntwnfbArticle
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'Is this the same Melbourne I migrated to?' Indians targeted by racist messaging are asking why them

Shock and concern as ‘peace-loving and law-abiding’ community subjected to ‘hateful behaviour’

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/sep/05/melbourne-immigration-migrated-indians-targeted-racist-messaging-asking-why-ntwnfb

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hmmmmmmm1990 · 09/09/2025 04:09

@HoppingPavlova also, there were quite a few 1/2 generation migrants who thought it was about excessive migration, once there realised it was a neo nazi rally. Other than those neo nazis I’ve never heard anyone claim they marched against ‘prejudice aimed at white Australians’.
Until you did, just now.

BeanQuisine · 09/09/2025 04:23

No, "the Australians" are not protesting. A handful of racist Australians may be "protesting", but most Australians are fine with Indians and appreciative of the many Indian medical staff in our hospitals etc.

Not surprised though that racist Brits will stereotype all Australians in this way.

InWalksBarberalla · 09/09/2025 04:25

hmmmmmmm1990 · 09/09/2025 04:09

@HoppingPavlova also, there were quite a few 1/2 generation migrants who thought it was about excessive migration, once there realised it was a neo nazi rally. Other than those neo nazis I’ve never heard anyone claim they marched against ‘prejudice aimed at white Australians’.
Until you did, just now.

Agree with this as a mixed heritage Australian. Many Australians I know (from a wide range of background) have concerns regarding housing and infrastructure although I didnt ever intend to go to the protest as I saw the neo nazi involvment. Also the anti-indian sentiment came as a surprise to many people I've talked to. I'm not usually a conspiracy theorist but this appears to be deliberately driven from somewhere as it doesn't align with the general sentiment of even the most racist.

Howseitgoin · 09/09/2025 04:28

MiddleAgedMusings · 08/09/2025 23:17

Their main target is Indians.
Indians. Who have come legally - not on boats - but on aeroplanes, with the correct visas, who are students seeking further education in order to train as doctors, nurses, or whatever so that they can give back to Australia - Or they are already trained in a profession that the government has outlined has a shortage.

Australia is absolutely solid to get into with specific qualifications or experience being a mandatory requirement and the financial means to support one self. The whole western world constantly puts Australia on a pedestal for not being a soft touch for immigration. How are these protesters questioning the value of this diaspora's contribution to the Australian economy, and how can anybody deny that it's pure racism?

Australia doesn't have a problem luring white British nurses and doctors to their shores with generous repatriation packages, but an Indian nurse or doctor aren't good enough. Australians don't have a problem with their white teenagers or graduates emigrating to western countries for 10 years before fucking off back to Australia when it's time to settle down, but god forbid anybody does it the other way

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/sep/05/melbourne-immigration-migrated-indians-targeted-racist-messaging-asking-why-ntwnfbArticle
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I agree its racism but it's only some Australians that isn't helped by over simplistic propaganda campaigns pretending immigrants = housing crisis as cover for racism.

It's important to meet disinformation with information.
I often post this link that clarifies the economic benefits of immigration that needs to be promoted:

https://grattan.edu.au/news/cutting-permanent-migration-may-make-housing-cheaper-but-it-will-definitely-make-us-poorer/

Cutting permanent migration may make housing cheaper, but it will definitely make us poorer - Grattan Institute

Migrants contribute greatly to Australia’s prosperity and shape our diverse society. Skilled migrants in particular lift the productivity of local workers and boost government budgets.

https://grattan.edu.au/news/cutting-permanent-migration-may-make-housing-cheaper-but-it-will-definitely-make-us-poorer

SeriaMau · 09/09/2025 04:39

Remaker · 09/09/2025 03:23

Wow you’re such an expert about a country you once visited. I’m married to an English guy and visit the UK every couple of years but I wouldn’t be telling my in-laws that I understand their culture better than they do.

Well I’ve been in Australia for 2 weeks now and I’m upset by the contempt in which the indigenous population is held. Doesn’t mean I know very much about the society but this is obvious.

RonnyRite · 09/09/2025 04:40

I used to live in Brisbane. The majority of taxi drivers there were Indian and told us they had come over on student visas (but not studied). That was their way in and they stayed.

Weepixie · 09/09/2025 04:56

@HoppingPavlova i don’t believe a word you said.

PurpleChrayn · 09/09/2025 05:23

Australia has a huge antisemitism problem too. A lot of my Jewish friends are planning to leave.

breakfastdinnerandtea · 09/09/2025 05:34

BeanQuisine · 09/09/2025 04:23

No, "the Australians" are not protesting. A handful of racist Australians may be "protesting", but most Australians are fine with Indians and appreciative of the many Indian medical staff in our hospitals etc.

Not surprised though that racist Brits will stereotype all Australians in this way.

The irony in your last sentence? Racist Brits? What, all of us??

Whatswrongherethen · 09/09/2025 05:35

HoppingPavlova · 09/09/2025 00:03

Australian here, who has close friends who are many different nationalities by birth (including Indian, Chinese) but are Australian, and I fully expect likely all my kids will partner and marry ‘non-white’ Australians, which is absolutely fine.

I’m not protesting but I think you are confused about what is being protested about. It’s not about not wanting non-white people in Australia at all, it’s not about not wanting Indian doctors and nurses in Australia, it’s about not wanting white Australians to be made second class citizens under non-white Australians which is where white Australians now see Australia going.

Here are some personal examples:

Some of my kids were looking to purchase a place, and DH and/or I would go with them to viewings (so experienced this first hand), around a third of places viewed the real estate agent straight up said they refused to sell to them as they were not Indian. They said we didn’t understand but the suburbs we were looking in were only for Indians so they would only sell to Indians. Refused to take offers. One literally threatened us when I joked and said I should get an Indian friend to come to viewings and make offers, indicated lives would be in danger if a white Australian purchased.

In other suburbs kids were looking at, many new build unit blocks. All brochures and sales were in Chinese only for that suburb and the minute you tried to talk to a sales rep ‘No English, Chinese only’ (said in English). All of this nonsense about white Australians not being able to live in certain suburbs means being pushed back from the CBD’s with longer commutes in.

With the place some of my kids ended up in, the Strata committee for the building are trying to hold meetings in a non-English language only. Kids are happy for it to be held in both languages given the majority of residents are native speakers of another language, but that’s not good enough, the committee don’t want English used at all, which means my kids can’t attend meetings or vote.

I was recently refused service at another nationalities restaurant. Went there with friends of that nationality. We sat down, restaurant made it clear to my friends that they didn’t serve white-Australians and didn’t want them in the restaurant. It’s a large restaurant in a CBD suburb. Friends were mortified, had a huge fight with restaurant and we left as they were not going to budge.

None of this is new per se, when my adult kids were at school, there was usually less than 5% white Australian kids there. That was the demographic of the areas we lived in as our preference was to live close to my work (major city hospitals) rather than out in the ‘white’ beach suburbs. The kids at school were fine but many of the parents would tell their kids not to associate with white Australians as they were ‘stupidly and lazy, and will make you get bad grades’ because I guess somehow you catch that??? Not all, I’ve got some great non-white Australian parents who became great friends, but it was the majority. My great hope was those parents would see first hand this was not true and that would stamp this nonsense out but it’s just gone further and further over the years.

That’s the basis of the current protests. Yes, it is about racism I guess, but it’s that white Australians are now sick and tired of the racism being directed at them and that they are being pushed out, and just want the current environment rolled back to an even footing.

I call bullshit

Summerlilly · 09/09/2025 05:38

That protest was arranged by neo nazis. Most
Australians regardless of colour or immigration status condemned it. As they saw through the immigration is why we have a housing crisis bollocks. (It’s not at all btw)

Don’t throw the entire country under the bus. It wasn’t targeted at “Indians” it was anyone who wasn’t white basically. The nazis then went on to attack a sacred indigenous site and assault some indigenous Australians while they were there.

BeanQuisine · 09/09/2025 05:41

breakfastdinnerandtea · 09/09/2025 05:34

The irony in your last sentence? Racist Brits? What, all of us??

Um no, I specified - the racist ones.

Whereas the OP said: "the Australians".

BTW I myself am a British citizen.

pollyglot · 09/09/2025 06:05

A Kiwi, I lived and went to school in Sydney in my youth, many years ago.

My brother was beaten up at his boys' school, for his accent. The other boys accused him of being ................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................
British. The most hated and persecuted ethnicity in the country back then..........
Whinging Poms...

Waterweight · 09/09/2025 06:05

"Their main target is Indians.
Indians. Who have come legally - not on boats - but on aeroplanes, with the correct visas, who are students seeking further education in order to train as doctors, nurses, or whatever so that they can give back to Australia - Or they are already trained in a profession that the government has outlined has a shortage."

I think your being incredibly naive here to try & stoke up your own battle...

IwasatClaines · 09/09/2025 06:13

Summerlilly · 09/09/2025 05:38

That protest was arranged by neo nazis. Most
Australians regardless of colour or immigration status condemned it. As they saw through the immigration is why we have a housing crisis bollocks. (It’s not at all btw)

Don’t throw the entire country under the bus. It wasn’t targeted at “Indians” it was anyone who wasn’t white basically. The nazis then went on to attack a sacred indigenous site and assault some indigenous Australians while they were there.

As a brown Brit in Australia I agree with you. Mainstream Australians don’t seem to be going along with Reform type movements in large numbers as of yet. It’s just the minority politicians who already had form making remarks (and not getting popular support).

In fact, the papers here have had a lot of photos of the flag waving “save the children” tee shirt wearing British protestors and they are not portrayed positively. I was amazed to read an article in. Murdoch owned newspaper the other day outlining why immigrants are essential to the economy and why the spike in immigration is not a spike when averaged against the dip during Covid.

Simonjt · 09/09/2025 06:18

When I was in Australia (two years ago), the word P**i was common place,

The protests seem quite small and not overly widespread, they’re also yet to report competitive rowers or boy scouts.

Sevenamcoffee · 09/09/2025 06:37

I read that a lot of international students who used to come to the UK are now going to Australian universities instead. We made more visa restrictions and created something of a hostile environment so UK higher education sector is increasingly fucked because the money has gone elsewhere. This will inevitably have a knock on effect upon our own young people as well as other wide ranging effects on our resources and culture. Australia could be in danger of doing the same thing by the sound of it.

Lilactimes · 09/09/2025 06:39

Whatswrongherethen · 09/09/2025 05:35

I call bullshit

I have literally never ever heard of this.
i call bullshit too.

TheKhakiQuail · 09/09/2025 06:39

The vast majority of people here in Australia embrace multiculturalism. I looked it up on X beforehand (not to go, just to see what people were saying). The people involved were pretty split between 'everyone's welcome at the march, all colours, migrants who love Australia' and straight out racism. I'd be surprised if there was widespread racism against Indian people, yes Australia has some racism, but it's usually more targeted at African refugees, muslim immigrants, Aboriginal people or more recently among some circles, Jewish people. Not that that makes it ok, but I feel like the media is trying to create a narrative that doesn't reflect either mainstream Australia or it's racist underbelly.

YelloDaisy · 09/09/2025 06:48

Australia stopped the boats - it is a different problem.

IllBeLookingAtTheMoon · 09/09/2025 06:54

I'm an Immigrant in the UK and really don't think that British posters have too much of a leg to stand on when sneering at Australians for their alleged xenophobia.

IllBeLookingAtTheMoon · 09/09/2025 06:55

YelloDaisy · 09/09/2025 06:48

Australia stopped the boats - it is a different problem.

Yes. Australia, like NZ, pay Indonesia a lot of money to stop the boats and also work hard to discourage chancers from hazarding the futile trip in their country of origin.

Fizzer5 · 09/09/2025 07:02

Is there a prejudice against people who keep the links with their homeland? Is there a feeling that if they keep their own language and style of clothes they have not become committed to Australia.
The USA adopted this 'melting pot' idea with all the white immigrants. Most lost their language in 2 generations. Even the German speakers did. Some Italians didn't.

MumWifeOther · 09/09/2025 07:15

This has to to be a joke? The irony 🫠 Hope they realise they are immigrants themselves.

TankFlyBossW4lk · 09/09/2025 07:27

SeriaMau · 09/09/2025 04:39

Well I’ve been in Australia for 2 weeks now and I’m upset by the contempt in which the indigenous population is held. Doesn’t mean I know very much about the society but this is obvious.

Do you mean aboriginals?

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