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MiddleAgedMusings · 2025-09-08T22:17:51+00:00

Their main target is Indians. Indians. Who have come legally - not on boats - but on aeroplanes, with the correct visas, who are students seeking further education in order to train as doctors, nurses, or whatever so that they can give back to Australia - Or they are already trained in a profession that the government has outlined has a shortage. Australia is absolutely solid to get into with specific qualifications or experience being a mandatory requirement and the financial means to support one self. The whole western world constantly puts Australia on a pedestal for not being a soft touch for immigration. How are these protesters questioning the value of this diaspora's contribution to the Australian economy, and how can anybody deny that it's pure racism? Australia doesn't have a problem luring white British nurses and doctors to their shores with generous repatriation packages, but an Indian nurse or doctor aren't good enough. Australians don't have a problem with their white teenagers or graduates emigrating to western countries for 10 years before fucking off back to Australia when it's time to settle down, but god forbid anybody does it the other way [[https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/sep/05/melbourne-immigration-migrated-indians-targeted-racist-messaging-asking-why-ntwnfb https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/sep/05/melbourne-immigration-migrated-indians-targeted-racist-messaging-asking-why-ntwnfbArticle]] Link will work without paywall, press downwards arrow.

ThisTaupeZebra · 09/09/2025 07:29

Remaker · 08/09/2025 23:50

I am Australian, lived here all my life. It took me so much by surprise that seemingly out of nowhere it’s the Indian community that are being targeted. It’s like the racists spun a wheel or something and their number came up.

My son goes to a very multicultural school and the vast majority of his friends are not white (we are). It stresses me out that these lovely, intelligent boys could be targeted by racist thugs just for going about their business.

Its this complete lack of self-awareness that makes me deeply skeptical of the 'promised land' rhetoric around Australia. Its lawful evil dressed up as chaotic neutral imo.

Remaker · 09/09/2025 07:31

Simonjt · 09/09/2025 06:18

When I was in Australia (two years ago), the word P**i was common place,

The protests seem quite small and not overly widespread, they’re also yet to report competitive rowers or boy scouts.

OMG more lies! No it is not, that is a British slur, not common here at all. Australia has other repulsive names for South Asian people but actually here everyone assumes anyone from that region is from India. Is it not possible to make a point without spouting complete and utter bullshit? And the irony that a thread about racism attracts so many people who want to insult everyone from Australia.

Berlinlover · 09/09/2025 07:31

SlieveMiskish · 08/09/2025 23:25

If you want a real laugh, they’re also flying flags at half mast over immigration in Ireland. I mean we Irish people have been emigrating since God knows when. I think the statistic in England is that up to 25% of British people have an Irish ancestry. And as for the Irish Americans, I don’t know how we got them.🙈 We are in Australia too! the Worlds gone daft.

The protests in Ireland are about ILLEGAL immigration.

ClawsandEffect · 09/09/2025 07:31

IllBeLookingAtTheMoon · 09/09/2025 06:54

I'm an Immigrant in the UK and really don't think that British posters have too much of a leg to stand on when sneering at Australians for their alleged xenophobia.

100%. I say this as a Brit. Attitudes to immigration here are disgusting and I apologise for the racists among us. They should be ashamed.

nomas · 09/09/2025 07:34

Dangermoos · 09/09/2025 00:17

I thought her post wouldn't sit right with some. You're part of the reason why patriots are flying their flags and out protesting.

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Are neo-Nazis patriots then?

It’s obvious why you would support her post.

WhereIsMyJumper · 09/09/2025 07:36

HoppingPavlova · 09/09/2025 00:03

Australian here, who has close friends who are many different nationalities by birth (including Indian, Chinese) but are Australian, and I fully expect likely all my kids will partner and marry ‘non-white’ Australians, which is absolutely fine.

I’m not protesting but I think you are confused about what is being protested about. It’s not about not wanting non-white people in Australia at all, it’s not about not wanting Indian doctors and nurses in Australia, it’s about not wanting white Australians to be made second class citizens under non-white Australians which is where white Australians now see Australia going.

Here are some personal examples:

Some of my kids were looking to purchase a place, and DH and/or I would go with them to viewings (so experienced this first hand), around a third of places viewed the real estate agent straight up said they refused to sell to them as they were not Indian. They said we didn’t understand but the suburbs we were looking in were only for Indians so they would only sell to Indians. Refused to take offers. One literally threatened us when I joked and said I should get an Indian friend to come to viewings and make offers, indicated lives would be in danger if a white Australian purchased.

In other suburbs kids were looking at, many new build unit blocks. All brochures and sales were in Chinese only for that suburb and the minute you tried to talk to a sales rep ‘No English, Chinese only’ (said in English). All of this nonsense about white Australians not being able to live in certain suburbs means being pushed back from the CBD’s with longer commutes in.

With the place some of my kids ended up in, the Strata committee for the building are trying to hold meetings in a non-English language only. Kids are happy for it to be held in both languages given the majority of residents are native speakers of another language, but that’s not good enough, the committee don’t want English used at all, which means my kids can’t attend meetings or vote.

I was recently refused service at another nationalities restaurant. Went there with friends of that nationality. We sat down, restaurant made it clear to my friends that they didn’t serve white-Australians and didn’t want them in the restaurant. It’s a large restaurant in a CBD suburb. Friends were mortified, had a huge fight with restaurant and we left as they were not going to budge.

None of this is new per se, when my adult kids were at school, there was usually less than 5% white Australian kids there. That was the demographic of the areas we lived in as our preference was to live close to my work (major city hospitals) rather than out in the ‘white’ beach suburbs. The kids at school were fine but many of the parents would tell their kids not to associate with white Australians as they were ‘stupidly and lazy, and will make you get bad grades’ because I guess somehow you catch that??? Not all, I’ve got some great non-white Australian parents who became great friends, but it was the majority. My great hope was those parents would see first hand this was not true and that would stamp this nonsense out but it’s just gone further and further over the years.

That’s the basis of the current protests. Yes, it is about racism I guess, but it’s that white Australians are now sick and tired of the racism being directed at them and that they are being pushed out, and just want the current environment rolled back to an even footing.

Wow - let the lesson here be that there are always two sides to every story.

Before I even came across your post I thought there must be more to it!

MontereyK · 09/09/2025 07:36

It was an isolated Neo Nazi protest that had nothing to do with most Australians. Every country has it's racists, but Australia is a pretty successful multicultural country. I'm visiting the UK at the moment from there and am pretty shocked to see English flags on every motorway bridge, co-opted by the right wing, and Reform leading in the polls. It must feel very threatening to non-white Britons and definitely no longer feels like the country I grew up in.
Australia comprehensively rejected Peter Dutton and his version of right wing populism recently and his party has been reduced to a small rump.

ThisTaupeZebra · 09/09/2025 07:37

Berlinlover · 09/09/2025 07:31

The protests in Ireland are about ILLEGAL immigration.

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As though the concept of illegal/legal immigration isn't completely made up by racists.

NeelyOHara · 09/09/2025 07:41

breakfastdinnerandtea · 09/09/2025 05:34

The irony in your last sentence? Racist Brits? What, all of us??

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I know right! Slight hypocrisy.

Remaker · 09/09/2025 07:43

InWalksBarberalla · 09/09/2025 04:25

Agree with this as a mixed heritage Australian. Many Australians I know (from a wide range of background) have concerns regarding housing and infrastructure although I didnt ever intend to go to the protest as I saw the neo nazi involvment. Also the anti-indian sentiment came as a surprise to many people I've talked to. I'm not usually a conspiracy theorist but this appears to be deliberately driven from somewhere as it doesn't align with the general sentiment of even the most racist.

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I am a bit the same. Deeply suspicious that one of our shady billionaires is bored of funding failed defamation cases for rapists and war criminals and thinks they’ll try their hand at something new. It’s just so bizarre to target a community that seemingly offends nobody and brings so much to our society.

HoppingPavlova · 09/09/2025 07:49

@Zooeyzebra Which area of Sydney is this? Does not sound familiar for me in the area I live in. Or the many, many different areas I travel to on a weekly basis for kids sport. What a load of rubbish to stir up trouble. You should be ashamed of yourself

Will PM you the exact suburbs I’m referring to. Will not put it here as it will be outing given easy to identify as a person whose kids have banded together in different to buy properties in those particular suburbs, so a combination of suburbs that would be identifiable.

MyHeartyCoralSnail · 09/09/2025 07:51

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Your personal experience does not make anyone else’s experience untrue. We have experienced the same in the UK.

If you listen to any of the debates, the word you hear more often than not is integration. We lived in an area which became a desirable area for immigration- my son had a class in which he was the only native English speaker. People will only mix in their own communities. It destroys existing communities. Local amenities change to serve the incoming communities rather than existing ones? People who have lived there years suddenly isolated as the new neighbours only want to mix in their own communities. Local events/traditions which have been going on for years ending as there’s no one to take over running them as people leave the area - no one attends them as in incomers are only concerned with their own events:traditions.

BeanQuisine · 09/09/2025 07:53

ClawsandEffect · 09/09/2025 07:31

100%. I say this as a Brit. Attitudes to immigration here are disgusting and I apologise for the racists among us. They should be ashamed.

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Yes. According to media reports, the British may well elect Farage and his mob as their next PM/government.

There's no way that could happen in Australia. The Reform equivalents here - like One Nation - never get more than a handful of votes.

At the last federal election, Opposition Leader Dutton went in for various racist dog-whistling, and his party scored their worst ever result, with Dutton himself losing his seat.

All indications are that populist right-wing racism is far more popular in the Old Country than Down Under.

beAsensible1 · 09/09/2025 07:54

Australia is honestly one of the most racist places I have ever been.

mamagogo1 · 09/09/2025 07:54

@BeanQuisine

but British people aren’t protesting either, it’s a tiny minority of bigoted racists. My town has zero flags up (apart from the Union flag on the town hall and the flag on the church town as per schedule), go 12 miles south to a very different town and there’s loads, but they have a reform councillor elected too (ghastly chap according to our councillor) that town is mostly lower income and very white, here we don’t have a high immigrant/non British decent population but people do integrate if here very well and no racism (that’s according to my friend who is Jamaican descent)

ThatBlackCat · 09/09/2025 07:55

HoppingPavlova · 09/09/2025 00:03

Australian here, who has close friends who are many different nationalities by birth (including Indian, Chinese) but are Australian, and I fully expect likely all my kids will partner and marry ‘non-white’ Australians, which is absolutely fine.

I’m not protesting but I think you are confused about what is being protested about. It’s not about not wanting non-white people in Australia at all, it’s not about not wanting Indian doctors and nurses in Australia, it’s about not wanting white Australians to be made second class citizens under non-white Australians which is where white Australians now see Australia going.

Here are some personal examples:

Some of my kids were looking to purchase a place, and DH and/or I would go with them to viewings (so experienced this first hand), around a third of places viewed the real estate agent straight up said they refused to sell to them as they were not Indian. They said we didn’t understand but the suburbs we were looking in were only for Indians so they would only sell to Indians. Refused to take offers. One literally threatened us when I joked and said I should get an Indian friend to come to viewings and make offers, indicated lives would be in danger if a white Australian purchased.

In other suburbs kids were looking at, many new build unit blocks. All brochures and sales were in Chinese only for that suburb and the minute you tried to talk to a sales rep ‘No English, Chinese only’ (said in English). All of this nonsense about white Australians not being able to live in certain suburbs means being pushed back from the CBD’s with longer commutes in.

With the place some of my kids ended up in, the Strata committee for the building are trying to hold meetings in a non-English language only. Kids are happy for it to be held in both languages given the majority of residents are native speakers of another language, but that’s not good enough, the committee don’t want English used at all, which means my kids can’t attend meetings or vote.

I was recently refused service at another nationalities restaurant. Went there with friends of that nationality. We sat down, restaurant made it clear to my friends that they didn’t serve white-Australians and didn’t want them in the restaurant. It’s a large restaurant in a CBD suburb. Friends were mortified, had a huge fight with restaurant and we left as they were not going to budge.

None of this is new per se, when my adult kids were at school, there was usually less than 5% white Australian kids there. That was the demographic of the areas we lived in as our preference was to live close to my work (major city hospitals) rather than out in the ‘white’ beach suburbs. The kids at school were fine but many of the parents would tell their kids not to associate with white Australians as they were ‘stupidly and lazy, and will make you get bad grades’ because I guess somehow you catch that??? Not all, I’ve got some great non-white Australian parents who became great friends, but it was the majority. My great hope was those parents would see first hand this was not true and that would stamp this nonsense out but it’s just gone further and further over the years.

That’s the basis of the current protests. Yes, it is about racism I guess, but it’s that white Australians are now sick and tired of the racism being directed at them and that they are being pushed out, and just want the current environment rolled back to an even footing.

@HoppingPavlova I hope you reported those places to the relevant authorities (ie real estate institute governing authority/fair trading, same with restaurant). It's illegal in both instances. As is the non-English strata meetings. Might be useful secretly recording these encounters in future.

Gingernessy · 09/09/2025 07:55

The only problem I can see with immigration be it through legal routes or asylum is not adhering to the values, language and beliefs of the host country. Don't move abroad unless you accept those values and are willing to learn to be fluent in the native tongue. I apply this to Brit expats too. Ofcourse you can practice your religion and keep your own customs (providing they don't contravene the host nations values) but you should also assimilate those of your new country. The biggest problem in England to me is the way immigrants seem to have their own segregated communities (rather like our embarrassing Spanish expats!). That doesn't make integration easy for anyone.
Apart from that I don't see that where you were born makes any difference whatsoever.

ThatBlackCat · 09/09/2025 07:56

Simonjt · 09/09/2025 06:18

When I was in Australia (two years ago), the word P**i was common place,

The protests seem quite small and not overly widespread, they’re also yet to report competitive rowers or boy scouts.

The term P**ki is not even known at all in Australia. It's solely a UK slur. Here we'd say Arabic or Middle Eastern or something like that. So, sorry, but I don't believe you there.

Daygloboo · 09/09/2025 07:57

VoulezVouz · 09/09/2025 01:47

Who colonised Australia? Which country imported their criminals and more wealthy settlers? Let’s see … England. It was the British that inflicted these traumas on the indigenous people of Australia.

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Well, how many Austrslias are there? Your comments make absolutely no sense.

VoulezVouz · 09/09/2025 07:57

HoppingPavlova · 09/09/2025 07:49

@Zooeyzebra Which area of Sydney is this? Does not sound familiar for me in the area I live in. Or the many, many different areas I travel to on a weekly basis for kids sport. What a load of rubbish to stir up trouble. You should be ashamed of yourself

Will PM you the exact suburbs I’m referring to. Will not put it here as it will be outing given easy to identify as a person whose kids have banded together in different to buy properties in those particular suburbs, so a combination of suburbs that would be identifiable.

If your post is “outing”, that’s on you. Are you referring to Harris Park, or ‘Little India’? Or Schofield? It is fairly common - across the globe - for emigrants to cluster in particular areas. Happily, in still-reasonably-affordable western Sydney, there’s plenty of areas to choose from.

VoulezVouz · 09/09/2025 07:59

Daygloboo · 09/09/2025 07:57

Well, how many Austrslias are there? Your comments make absolutely no sense.

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Do you know the history of Australia at all?

MyHeartyCoralSnail · 09/09/2025 07:59

mamagogo1 · 09/09/2025 07:54

@BeanQuisine

but British people aren’t protesting either, it’s a tiny minority of bigoted racists. My town has zero flags up (apart from the Union flag on the town hall and the flag on the church town as per schedule), go 12 miles south to a very different town and there’s loads, but they have a reform councillor elected too (ghastly chap according to our councillor) that town is mostly lower income and very white, here we don’t have a high immigrant/non British decent population but people do integrate if here very well and no racism (that’s according to my friend who is Jamaican descent)

And that’s the difference. If you have small numbers of immigrants they tend to integrate very well. If you live in areas of high immigration integration falls by the wayside as the immigrant communities stick together as there is no need to integrate.

romatheroamer · 09/09/2025 08:03

Surely in Australia there's legislation against refusing to serve a certain ethnicity in a restaurant or an estate agent refusing to deal, as there is in the UK?

Daygloboo · 09/09/2025 08:03

VoulezVouz · 09/09/2025 07:59

Do you know the history of Australia at all?

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Do you ?

MyHeartyCoralSnail · 09/09/2025 08:03

VoulezVouz · 09/09/2025 07:57

If your post is “outing”, that’s on you. Are you referring to Harris Park, or ‘Little India’? Or Schofield? It is fairly common - across the globe - for emigrants to cluster in particular areas. Happily, in still-reasonably-affordable western Sydney, there’s plenty of areas to choose from.

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So you are confirming that the poster is correct and areas exist how she describes - the fact you can identify areas that meet her description (whether or not these are the areas she means) seems to confirm her comments.

So you are basically saying there’s areas of Sydney where white Australians should live and areas they shouldn’t?