PIP Fraud- now even the DWP staff themselves are it!

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Clifford Redman, 57, claimed he had severe mobility issues and needed daily help - but he was caught out after being filmed going to the gym and on long walks https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/2105390/dwp-fraudster-claimed-19k-caught-gym

Tip of the iceberg, serious reform needed.

I never understand why people openly discuss their finances and freely admit that they are apparently claiming frauendtly
I suspect they don't, t
And posters just make massive assumptions.

My GP wouldn’t even complete and sign his para athlete form so he could continue to compete for the country as a para athlete to agree he has the disability he has - and his is genetic so you can’t even “fake” that 🤦🏼‍♀️😂

I'm sorry, but your response was actually typical of a benefits bashing PIP sceptic. A little very basic thought could have led you to the same conclusion I drew.

I'm glad you appreciate my posts on alcoholism, but would suggest you work on your empathy a little.

It is not actually about a diagnosis anymore. that was changed when PIP was introduced. It is how your symptoms affect your day to day life. so you don't get a letter from a private clinic saying you ADHD and then automatically qualify for PIP. It is an extremely arduous and humiliating process.

Another benefit bashing thread, full of ignorant and ableist comments. Yippee.

I have a chronic condition. I can’t work currently, I’m under pain management and physio. I go to the gym and swimming as to improve my condition I need to strengthen my core. I have days where I can walk my son to school(with crutches) and drive ten minutes to the gym and do a work out. But I will need to rest after. There’s also days where I can’t get out of bed and everything in between. But every day I’m in pain and limited on my mobility.

Well, I can’t leave the house really so rely on deliveries which are more costly. I had my driving license removed so depend on taxis to appointments. Things like that.

Claiming fraudulently according to whom?

You?
Them?

there will always be people who claim things fraudulently, avoid tax, drink drive etc regardless of what’s morally or legally correct.

But when it comes to disability benefits people seem to think that’s a reason to demonise all disabled people.

I’ve not yet heard someone suggest we ban alcohol because someone was killed by a drunk driver. Or cars.

Thank you, but they will on a couple of years when I am reassessed.

Report them then

PIP is literally in order to help disabled people ‘fund a lifestyle’ in terms of being able to go
out and do things.

And as per it will be left to stand because mnhq don't give a shiney shite

You can be pissed off about two things at the same time!

Benefit fraud is wrong, so is tax evasion. I think action should be taken on both.

Yes it certainly seems that way, it’s often the case with racist threads too.

Where are all of the tax evasion bashing threads then? I barely see them compared to benefit bashing ones.

I don’t disagree with you but for the majority of us who claim PIP it isn’t that easy. Multiple doctors & consultants letters have to be submitted none of which are based only on patients reports, blood results medications, face to face interviews are all to be submitted, they can actually approach your GP to get further info.
do hope you aren’t tarring everyone with the same brush. My friend who I trained with as a nurse with in the 80’s left nursing as she got ill with Chronic illnesses, she did a return to practice then got a brain tumour & had surgery has left her with some slight brain damage she got turned down for PIP had to take it to tribunal not fair really to put someone through that when they were at their most vulnerable. Do you think she shouldn’t be awarded it?

Jesus Christ, do you think I support the fraudsters? What do you think I can actually do practically about it when I'm suicidal, and have major health conditions? I know you probably think I'm weak and pathetic, but I'm genuinely scared. But that's not your problem.

Well, quite. My DS submitted a stack of evidence an inch thick. Took him half a day to photograph and upload. He has many complex comorbid conditions. And it isn't based on diagnosis, it's based on how your condition affects you - so he had OT and physio reports.

My da is a paraswimmer. Has competed for Britain. Is a software developer. Trains 21 hours a week pool and gym.

He’s still (legitimately!) entitled to PIp because it isn’t what you can do but rather what you cant.

He can’t cook because he has a tremor and poor hand grip, he has to do physio everyday as a minimum and more when his legs spasm to 90° and gets stuck, he uses a wheelchair. He’s also in daily pain.

He’s also a software developer so earns well.

You don’t need to justify why you get PIP nor why you can’t work. You get it and any other benefits you’re entitled to because life with a disability is already hard enough and expensive.

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This is really not true. You have to have lists of medications, blood tests, consultant letters. My neurologist definitely didn't forge my MRI & CAT scan.

I honestly don't know why anyone who receives disability benefits posts on these threads.

I mean, I do know because they're always so utterly wrong and frustrating, but it's just pointless.

Some folk just love to point the finger at disabled people. Amazing how they always "know someone".

Absolutely NOTHING we say will convince them that the majority of PIP claimants are genuine. They'll triumphantly hold up the rare proven case of fraud as some kind of proof that all PIP claimants are charlatans.

These whispers spread and ultimately influence public opinion. In the meantime, there are people in dire need of disability benefits who live in abject fear that the next government is going to bow to public demand and take the benefits away, leaving them unable to manage and shockingly, still disabled.

I mean, let's look at what the Labour proposals were. They were going to drastically slash the entitlement to PIP but weren't planning on bringing in the supportive measures - like improved access to the workplace - for another three years. So what were disabled people supposed to do in the meantime??

Still, fuck them, right?

Point of note - I don't claim PIP myself. I do however have two DC who will never live independently due to disabilities and have a mum who has cerebral palsy. I fear for my kids' future due to the nasty kind of stuff that's spread around on posts like this.

I think it’s easy to overlook, or be wilfully blind to the fact, that any of us could become sick or disabled. We are all vulnerable. To be ill is not a moral failing or sign of weakness.

Life with chronic illness and/or disability comes with many hidden costs, psychologically, emotionally, financially. I want to live in a society which offers support to those in need, not shames them. It is easier to other and blame people rather than acknowledge our own fears and vulnerabilities.

If she can't work it all goes in the same pot after all. We don't know her family circumstances. Taxis could be for medical appointments. I have someone who helps with my cleaning and shopping. I know that sounds like a luxury, but it's degrading and embarrassing.

Depends where you live really, for me to get a taxi one way to a hostipal appointment costs me £55 and then back again so £110. I usually have 2-3 appointments a month.
My insurance & car tax is cheaper than that.