PIP Fraud- now even the DWP staff themselves are it!

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Clifford Redman, 57, claimed he had severe mobility issues and needed daily help - but he was caught out after being filmed going to the gym and on long walks https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/2105390/dwp-fraudster-claimed-19k-caught-gym

Tip of the iceberg, serious reform needed.

I don’t mean to sound harsh but what about the other children with severe dyslexia who would benefit from a tutor, and my anxious, school refusing niece who would massively benefit from play therapy?

Disability clubs should be free. Tutors should be given to ALL who need them by the education department. Play therapy should be provided to those who have a need for it.

It seems totally crazy to give the money to
the parent on the off chance that it will be put to the correct use.

I work FT. I also work my arse off, whilst being disabled and with chronic pain and fatigue. I also claim PIP.

Nowhere does it say what pip has to be used on. And what do you define as proper use of pip money? There are so many hidden costs and people have needs not mentioned on the pip form

But there are hundred of people on waiting lists for therapy because the NHS is so underfunded due to so much being handed out for PIP. An actively suicidal child has to wait 6 months to get therapy on the NHS where I live. Why should someone in less need who has filled out the right forms in the right way get therapy before others in more need? Take back the PIP money and plough it into the NHS.

Wheelchairs are not available on the NHS, not unless you're completely unable to walk at all.. that doesn't help ambulatory wheelchair users who need them.. mine cost me £750, and that's just for a self propelling one. If i wanted/needed an electric one, i'd be talking £5000}+
I don't use it all the time, sometimes i use my crutches, which cost me £150, or my walking stick, which cost £50, but need replacing every couple of years due to wear and tear.
I sometimes use a rollator, they start at £130, but the one i need, that has a seat, is £300. Then there are my supports for my wrists, knees, and ankles, the heated pads for my back and hands, my specialist shoes, my tens machine and its pads that need replenishing.

Physio is available on the NHS. It's 15 minutes, once a month, where they pack you off with a list of exercises, but don't actually lay a hand on you, or show you how to do them.
My private physio, who is a sport rehab specialist, cost £50 an appt, and i see him every other week, does massage and manipulation, dedicates a whole hour to me, addresses all of my MSK issues from head to toe, he keeps me mostly out of that £750 wheelchair and on those £150 crutches. I also get shockwave therapy on some really bad feet/ankles issues i have as a result of the pronounced limp i walk with, which the NHS don't provide at all.

The NHS didn't pay for the hand rails on my stairs, the step outside my back door, the bath seat, the toilet frame, or the rails in my bathroom, the perching stool in my kitchen and all the specialist cooking aids i use, the council did. The NHS nor council will pay for the bathroom renovation i need to take out the bath and install a walk-in shower.

The NHS doesn't cover the automatic car i need to drive, the fuel it costs to run it, the tax, insurance or MOT to maintain it.

The NHS doesn't cover my raised bed, or my raised sofa either.

How pray tell, do you anticipate a 'tiny amount' helping with ANY of that additional cost?

Erm, it proves that ONE person committed fraud.

I'm very thankful you are not a scientist, or did you go to the 'University of Life' instead. 🙄

It's all the fault of PIP that the NHS is so underfunded? Ok then.

You have no idea that they are in less need, you are just making assumptions.

Last time I checked Nadim Zahawi wasn’t a billionaire and it was £3.7m.

Billionaires and large companies are not evading tax. I work in the tax industry. It’s not something that is going to fund the vast ballooning in disability benefits.

Who is in more need than an actively suicidal child? 6 months is the wait. 6 months. And yet people are being handed money to piss up the wall. It’s totally indefensible in its current state.

As a fraud manager ^ this.

Because they can only report the ones that get caught! Why does no one get this. Loads of people abusing it. Whether abusing it/taking the piss is enough to be classed as fraud is another point too, as someone else said above.

There are so many aids I've had to buy over the years that NHS won't cover. I have higher bills due to my disability. How will putting money into the NHS help ?

And then theres the little things such as ear plugs because of my sensitivity to noise and having to buy lock laces because after a certain size, very few trainers are velcro. They're all laces which are difficult for me to do up properly

God, I wish people would educate themselves before they froth on threads like this…

Don’t you think it’s shit that the NHS doesn’t provide this? Don’t you think it’s fairer that we all have access to better healthcare, rather than just those with long term conditions. I recently damaged my back and needed 2 operations. After being discharged from hospital it was one physio appointment, repeated after 6 weeks. Agree with you. It was shit. So I funded my own, £80 per hour. Why is yours funded and not mine? Why can’t we both get adequate free physio?

But you’ve just proved that tax evasion exists.

Farage is currently being paid £40k a year to work for a company that holds conferences teaching people how to become “economic migrants” and hold multiple passports and citizenships to avoid paying taxes in one place - including the U.K.

People will always exploit a loophole if they can and in regards to tax those who shout loudest are the ones who have more to lose by closing those loopholes.

With regards disability the 99% (probably a little less) of genuine claimants have most to lose from the very small amount of fraudulent claims which are discovered.

Back when I was young I had NHS glasses. These were the basic model. If you wanted posher you’d have to fund them yourself. This is a bit harsh as NHS specs weren’t the nicest. I think that we should provide a nice pair of specs - not designer but not basic. What PIP seems to be doing is handing out the cash for a nice pair but telling you if you don’t want to spend it on a nice paid of glasses you don’t have to. Some think this is a good thing to do. I’d disagree.

ive explained yo thread where I spend it. Unfortunately MH services are overstretched so you can’t get much access to therapy.

No i don't think it's shit the NHS doesn't cover it. I'd rather the NHS was covering more for Mental Health.

i'd rather that the government started chasing the millionairs/billionaires who're defrauding the country of taxes that should be covering ALL of this and more.

I'd rather the focus were on the disgusting travesty that is Carers Allowance, keeping family carers in poverty, while saving the NHS thousands a year per Carer.

You could ask for claimants to account for every penny they spend of their PIP. It would certainly generate a lot of new jobs.

Which would cost the Treasury a great deal of money.

It would also be ableist and patronising, but I guess disabled people aren't allowed dignity.

The government says the fraud rate for PIP was 0.4% for the financial year ending 2025. You can read about it here;

www.gov.uk/government/statistics/fraud-and-error-in-the-benefit-system-financial-year-2024-to-2025-estimates/fraud-and-error-in-the-benefit-system-financial-year-ending-fye-2025

This is a standard thread... "benefit fraud costs the country very little the millionaires need to pay", "what like people avoiding stamp duty when their responsible for housing?", "no not that type of millionaire". It's all so ridiculous.

If a child has high needs then their parents should be able to claim DLA for them. Especially if it is so easy to get, right?

As someone who works in the tax / economics industry I get SO FRUSTRATED by the idea that catching ‘billionaires / multinationals evading tax’. Even if every single billionaire was caught that would be £3.5 billion. It’s small businesses that are shafting us. Focus away from billionaires and multinationals if you want better public services. Look to cash in hand tradies and the very low basic rate of tax we have.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2025/may/16/wealthy-britons-avoiding-more-tax-than-thought-spending-watchdog-says

https://www.taxwatchuk.org/seven-large-tech-groups-estimated-to-have-dodged-2bn-in-uk-tax-in-2021/

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/dec/11/us-multinationals-underpaid-56bn-in-tax-in-uk-last-year-hmrc-believes

https://www.ethicalconsumer.org/ethical-campaigns-boycotts/amazon-uks-substantial-tax-avoidance