PIP Fraud- now even the DWP staff themselves are it!

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Clifford Redman, 57, claimed he had severe mobility issues and needed daily help - but he was caught out after being filmed going to the gym and on long walks https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/2105390/dwp-fraudster-claimed-19k-caught-gym

Tip of the iceberg, serious reform needed.

Exactly.

There's those posts and the ones about a cashier who's ruined someone's experience buying a pint of milk because they didn't make eye contact, and when it's pointed out that that is something that often comes with certain conditions or mental illness, they shouldn't be doing that job then because they're not capable, and likely to be the same people who come on threads like this and demand that the same people they don't think should be working in those customer facing roles should certainly not be getting benefits because they can work.

Like I said in a pp, if people with disabilities, conditions and mental illness are to work, they need to be accepted generally first!

@Freud2 How do you know what your patients are writing on their forms?

You have an odd attitude as a counsellor, I am a mental health professional and wouldn’t disparage and speak badly of my patients, online or otherwise.

how do you know what they have written on their forms? You are highly unprofessional and I hope your cilents see this & put two and two together that you are badmouthing them online. You deserved to be sacked.

The largest amounts of benefit fraud is with Universal Credit.🤷‍♀️

Why keep banging on about PIP? 🙄

They're quite open about it. I am obviously not naming names but this is a complete scandal so feel hard working tax payers should know what's happening. The system needs a complete overhaul.

Why don't you report them ?

And how do they get the evidence too back up their claim?
And why do they see you for mild anxiety?

I honestly don't care about benefit fraud. DWP do their best to stop it with what meagre resources they have and most of us would rather allow the tiny bit of fraud that is inevitable than have actual claimants miss out.

If you see my DS walking down the street you won’t have a clue why he gets PIP especially if it’s a route he knows. Yet he gets full PIP because he is blind with limited usable vision.

He is off to uni soon and we’ve had to buy adapted kitchen equipment which has cost over £100 so far. He will have to spend more on prepared food as chopping stuff up is tricky.
He may get himself a long cane (white stick) for navigating his new environment which he will buy with his PIP.

A lot of disabilities aren’t immediately obvious so you don’t know how people are really affected.

Often because they want me to write a report to back up their claims. I do if I think it's valid.

@Freud2 Right, do you are admitting that often claims ARE valid then.

I have worked in mental health services for years, I am also a senior manager. The only scandal I see is 14 years of Tory cuts and the decimation of public services, resulting in further ill health. The benefit scrounger narrative is ableist nonsense which should be in the bin alongside other 00s derogatory terms such as ‘chav’ and the shit show that was the Jeremy Kyle show.

I don’t know how you can be in your job and hold such ignorant views.

Your views are naive and ignorant if you can't see what is going on. And of course some claims are valid when they are severe mental health conditions.

No I think the only ignorance here is coming from you, quite clearly and in abundance.

The core conditions of counselling, unconditional positive regard, clearly does not apply to your practice.

Well that makes no sense they have mild anxiety which they see yoy for and you write a report for some ,so those you write a report for you must feel their claim is valid?
Where do the ones who you feel their claim isn't valid get their evidence from ?
Anyone can put in a claim but that doesn't mean they will get am awarded.

Quite often their GP who often admit that due to time restraints they wave them through or to another counsellor who they can persuade to back up their claim.

Luckily balanced our by the two people who can't leave their beds and yet were refused PIP.

Your go.

I think there are exhausted, under pressure, full time single working mums up and down the country who are close to breaking point who would "feel mentally better" for having their hair and nails done regularly 😂

Not all disabilities require any extra money. Some disabilities require much more than is awarded. Some disabled folk (including myself) have a pretty great life. Some have a shit life.

I really do think there should be a better way of awarding disability benefits. I don't know what the answer is though...

I think that's the million pound question. No one seems to have the answer as to a better way to award disability benefits without it negatively affecting those who are genuine.

I think there are exhausted, under pressure, full time single working mums up and down the country who are close to breaking point who would "feel mentally better" for having their hair and nails done regularly 😂

Yeah, the difference is that people mostly choose to have children, and those children eventually grow up.

Why would that Counsellor write a report if they didn't feel it was valid?

Isn't that why there are different levels of DLA/PIP?

I think the re-designed system in Scotland is better, ADP replaces PIP here. It certainly seems less distressing for claimants, and decisions are often based on the evidence provided, without needing to attend an assessment. There’s a lot of research which shows how dehumanising, humiliating and re-traumatising these assessments can be.

The DWP is fucked, IMO.

That seems most unlikely that GPs are prepared to write fraudulent letters. They could get struck off for that.

All the Gp can write is patient reports
Which isn't great evidence.

I worked in GP surgeries for years and doctors admitted that they gave patients the benefit of the doubt to continue good relations.