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To think England flags are intimidating?

201 replies

Nikki7506 · 07/09/2025 09:09

Let me start by saying I LOVE MY COUNTRY!🥰🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿
I am an Army veteran. I fly a tonne of flags for St Georges Day, major sporting tournaments, Royal occasions because I love the monarchy!! I'm the only person on my street who bothers to get the flags and bunting out, although, there is one other house on the next road who does too👍
Woke up one morning to find England flags all the way down the street. They were well high up on the lamp posts. I couldn't reach them so I complained to the council. I feel like I'm living in an EDL rally. The council finally sent an email saying they had removed the flags but they hadn't. They were still there.
So I decided to fly two pride flags from the lamp posts opposite my house. Before the end of the day an angry GAMMON 😡 ripped them down with such vigour I thought he might have a heart attack.
It made me really sad because to me the pride flag is a symbol of acceptance and kindness to everyone LGTBQ+, disabilities and everyone who is neither white nor English!!🏳️‍🌈
So I have to look at their flags (and its not the flag, the reason they're flying them is because Nigel wants everyone to hate immigrants and they are happy to use the England flag as a dog whistle ) but I can't fly mine😡
Am I being too upset by this? I'm seriously thinking of using a water gun with food dye in it. We have a diverse community here💖 The other day a man said hello to me in mandarin with his little toddler on his shoulders and it was lovely🌈 I don't just want to cut my neighbours loose and keep quiet😔 they are lovely people who deserve respect.
This feels like a Trump/Farage takeover😡
This sudden display of patriotism (Flag shagging) from folks who don't normally bother is a worry😬

OP posts:
Theunamedcat · 07/09/2025 09:10

Give up your obvious

thebabayaga2025 · 07/09/2025 09:16

Are you 12 or 13? This reads and looks like a parody post written by a 12 or 13 year old who believes they're terribly clever.

Fluffyholeysocks · 07/09/2025 09:16

Not the point of the thread but did you find learning mandarin easy? I'm really struggling.
Any tips to help?

vodkaredbullgirl · 07/09/2025 09:17

🤔

KhakiTiger · 07/09/2025 09:18

Whats the difference between these posts starting with ‘I’m a patriot but…..’ and ‘I’m not racist, but…..’.

These people are just as hysterical and batshit.

smallpinecone · 07/09/2025 09:18

What a beautiful morning it is! Have a lovely Sunday everyone 😊

Keeho · 07/09/2025 09:19

YANBU. As white, english speaking immigrant I find them hostile. They signal "brown/black people unwelcome here"... "rich or poor, white racists welcome here".

KhakiTiger · 07/09/2025 09:20

‘A man said hello to me in Mandarin’ hahah PMSL

This post is some kind of parody of bad satire.

NorfolkandBad · 07/09/2025 09:20

You ok this morning ?

PandoraSocks · 07/09/2025 09:22

Deleted as OP is a genuine poster and not a bored school child, which is very surprising.

Pollqueen · 07/09/2025 09:22

Batshit

EmpressaurusKitty · 07/09/2025 09:23

It made me really sad because to me the pride flag is a symbol of acceptance and kindness to everyone LGTBQ+, disabilities and everyone who is neither white nor English!!🏳️‍🌈

To everyone, in fact, except people who think sex matters more than gender. I remember when it simply stood for the rights of same-sex-attracted people, regardless of race or whether they had disabilities.

I’m a lesbian & I used to love the rainbow flag but nowadays it feels actively hostile.

KhakiTiger · 07/09/2025 09:23

Keeho · 07/09/2025 09:19

YANBU. As white, english speaking immigrant I find them hostile. They signal "brown/black people unwelcome here"... "rich or poor, white racists welcome here".

The irony in this post is staggering.

If a non-white person was to go to another country and say they find the host country’s flag offensive, imagine how this would go down. Yet this post is written (presumably) with a straight face.

Some people like to think it’s their mission in life to be offended on behalf of others, whether others are offended are not.

CatAsstrophe · 07/09/2025 09:23

I don't just want to cut my neighbours loose and keep quiet😔 they are lovely people who deserve respect.

Why would the flags cause anyone to cut their neighbours loose or stop being respectful to said neighbours? Cut them loose from what?

WetSlates · 07/09/2025 09:25

Actually it’s interesting that no British people generally say they’re an ‘Army veteran’, they say ‘ex forces’, don’t they?

HelpMeGetThrough · 07/09/2025 09:25

你好 OP!!!

LimbOnTheBranchBranchOnTheTreeTheTreeInTheBog · 07/09/2025 09:26

An army veteran in the UK?

Meadowfinch · 07/09/2025 09:27

No flag is intimidating. The Union Jack and the Cross of St George are national emblems. They are part of living in England. The pride flag isn't scary either.

We have two Union Jacks hanging from a road bridge near our village. You have to crick your neck to see them.

Didn't it all start when a school girl was disciplined for wearing a Union Jack dress on a school project day - which was ludicrous.

Were the Spice Girls racist or were they part of Cool Britannia?

Just ignore the flags and they'll fade away with the autumn weather.

TranceNation · 07/09/2025 09:27

It feels like so many people are loosing the plot at the moment, those on both sides of the flags craze. I swear so many people have come out of lockdown absolutely batshit bonkers.

Ponoka7 · 07/09/2025 09:33

"the pride flag is a symbol of acceptance and kindness to everyone LGTBQ+, disabilities and everyone who is neither white nor English"
There's a few black lesbians I know would disagree with that. As well as gender critical women. No one flag represents complete kindness and acceptance. Do people who are heterosexual, white and British not deserve kindness?

RobustPastry · 07/09/2025 09:34

Some very naive posters on here. Wake up. The St George’s flags are being put up by organised racist groups to intimidate at the moment. Territorial pissing.

The white road markings and the white street furniture getting red crosses painted on to them is the same racist vandalism which is designed to ‘mark territory’. It’s disgusting.

WetSlates · 07/09/2025 09:35

HelpMeGetThrough · 07/09/2025 09:25

你好 OP!!!

I hope you’re a cute toddler on your granddad’s shoulders?

HelpMeGetThrough · 07/09/2025 09:35

TranceNation · 07/09/2025 09:27

It feels like so many people are loosing the plot at the moment, those on both sides of the flags craze. I swear so many people have come out of lockdown absolutely batshit bonkers.

Seems to me many in this country make it their mission to find something to be offended about these days and then shout about it endlessly.

WetSlates · 07/09/2025 09:36

HelpMeGetThrough · 07/09/2025 09:35

Seems to me many in this country make it their mission to find something to be offended about these days and then shout about it endlessly.

Maybe you should design a flag to represent your position?

HelpMeGetThrough · 07/09/2025 09:37

WetSlates · 07/09/2025 09:35

I hope you’re a cute toddler on your granddad’s shoulders?

Grandad was a strapping Army veteran, but he would have struggled to have me on his shoulders.

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