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To think grief is often performative, especially on social media?

173 replies

CandidGreyCrow · 06/09/2025 11:38

Endless posts, hashtags, photo dumps… AIBU to think a lot of public grieving is more about performance and attention than genuine mourning?

OP posts:
YorkshirePuddingsGreatestFan · 06/09/2025 21:02

My Aunt (mother's sister) and her family never keep in touch apart from sending Christmas cards. We'd not seen them for years.

My Dad had cancer and was ill for several years. My Aunt was aware of this but they never bothered to visit him even though they only live 20 mins drive away.

Dad died. Both my Mum and me posted two messages about this on Facebook about this. One letting people know he'd died, then a second message with the funeral details in.

My Aunt and my cousin (her daughter) made numerous social media posts. Each time I logged on, they were posting pictures of flowers because they were thinking of him or glasses of wine as they were raising a toast to him and stuff like that. The even did funeral selfies showing their outfits off!

As they never bothered with him when he was alive and made no effort to come and see the rest of us apart from at the actual funeral, it just felt like they were using his death for likes and attention seeking. It really upset my Mum seeing all their posts when they didn't offer support to my Mum while Dad was poorly with the cancer or offer to help with the funeral arrangements etc.

MorrisseysMisery · 06/09/2025 21:40

I used to work with a lady (well, 32 year old lass) who was obsessed with death, dying and grieving, having endured no bereavement yet herself, thankfully.
She would kind of muscle herself into situations of death and kind of ingratiate herself with the family.
One particular time was especially strange. A neighbour of hers from a few streets down suffered the horrendous loss of a late term pregnancy and in the lady swooped, crying, offering help etc.
One day said lady came into the office bearing about 50 single white roses and a roll of cellophane with which to carefully wrap each one.
She then handed these out at the church doorway without prior agreement from dear bereaved mother, much to her bemusement.
I could not believe the overstepping of that day.
She had zero right.
She was well meaning and meant no ill will.
I think she needed real help.

Fizbosshoes · 07/09/2025 07:43

Pricelessadvice · 06/09/2025 15:46

I hate social media platforms like FB and the like, so I’m probably not the best person to talk to about that 😂

If it was up to me, it would all be banned and people would go back to living their lives privately and actually communicating in person with the people close to them.

But MN didnt used to exist either, would you have started a conversation with strangers at a bus stop, to criticise how someone grieved, in a past time?

MizzeryGuts · 07/09/2025 07:46

What do you think about cultures where people wail in the street and at funerals? Is that performative and unnecessary?

Stop judging people.

Avantiagain · 07/09/2025 07:50

I think judging someone for how they grieve the loss of a family member or friend is in poor taste.

NameChange23456790 · 07/09/2025 08:00

In some cultures grief is expressed more publically, there is a culture here of getting on with it - when perhaps you can’t just get on with it

Pricelessadvice · 07/09/2025 08:47

Fizbosshoes · 07/09/2025 07:43

But MN didnt used to exist either, would you have started a conversation with strangers at a bus stop, to criticise how someone grieved, in a past time?

If they’d started a conversation about it, I’d have engaged yes. Someone started a conversation about it on here and I responded.

What’s the problem with that? It’s how conversation works. Humans have been judging other humans for ever. Back in Tudor times, you got your head lopped off for doing or saying things others didn’t agree with.

The internet didn’t start people judging, it just gave them a bigger outlet.

Pricelessadvice · 07/09/2025 08:48

MizzeryGuts · 07/09/2025 07:46

What do you think about cultures where people wail in the street and at funerals? Is that performative and unnecessary?

Stop judging people.

Yes. I think it’s ridiculous.

Just as people from those cultures probably find my lack of emotion ridiculous.

MistressoftheDarkSide · 07/09/2025 09:02

As a "bereaved person" I always read these threads with interest. I could be accused of picking a scab by doing so of course, but I use the experience to observe, feel and analyse the emotions that come - which are mostly mild irritation, tolerance and resignation.

Solidarity and hugs to all those on the shitty club, by the way. All our experiences are unique, but the common ground is that big fuck off hole in our lives that we cannot fill.

One thing that strikes me is that our modern, technologically driven world,and the plethora of social media platforms means the lines between "reality" and the online world are increasingly blurred, and of course it is altering how we think and interact with each other.

If the Victorians had social media, their selfies would have been of them and their deceased relative dressed and posed to look alive, as for some this was the only opportunity they might have had for a family photo. I'm sure many thought this inappropriate but it was a technology driven fashion.....not much different to posting on Facebook in terms of evolution. Back then, mortality was a huge issue, so grief and mourning were big business, and part of every day life. The rituals were commonplace but gave people a framework that helped them process their losses.

I'm not advocating a return to 6 months of black slowly arriving back into the real world via lavender by any means, but as with everything, as society has changed, things like social media have become part of the landscape of everything we do. If you're on it that is, it's certainly not compulsory. But for a vast majority, especially younger generations, it's ingrained. They've never been without it, so it's part of their lexicon of communication. And we "oldies" got on board to "get down with the kids" (keep track of them in my case in their teens) keep up with the Jones and if you have a business for quick cheap advertising.

Back to bereavement posting though, as I didn't intend to give a Ted Talk, grieving people are expected to do so much, consider so much, organise so much, and so quickly, that actual "grieving" sometimes doesn't even kick in until long after all the practical stuff has been dealt with. Time becomes a very surreal thing. A loss can seem like yesterday and a lifetime ago at the same time. Then suddenly you realise it's a birthday, an anniversary, a death date, and while you might try and hold it down, you're desperate for some outlet or connection - and up goes the post. If the alternative is vodka shots through the eyeballs or picking a fight with someone for no apparent reason, then yay for performative grieving.

A pp mentioned widowhood - as a woman's place is usually in the wrong, this particular hell can make one wish to have just popped oneself into the grave on the day of the funeral and save everyone the bother of what to do with the widow. And social media can play its part in all that too.

But like it or lump it, people like to remember their dead. How they do it isn't up for judgement in my book. Other people can just look away, hopefully hiding their disdain if they don't like it. ,We're sorry / not sorry that it's awkward, or distasteful, or however you want to dress it up, but not as sorry as we are that we're in the position to cause you discomfort, trying to rebuild our lives without the person / people who made everything worthwhile.

For me, in five years, I've lost my Mum, my DP, and this year, three friends of varying closeness, plus my Dad, my MIL, and my Uncle. The last three since March. I've posted to let people know mainly, and to diarise little tributes to them. If I posted on every birthday, or special date, my feed would be one long roll call of death, so yeah, I'm not going to do that. I don't need RSI on top of everything else.

But those who do - I say go for it. Put your love and memories out there. We are but a short time here, and we live as long as we're remembered. As we're always being told - we have the technology and we're all supposed to be using it.

LizzieW1969 · 07/09/2025 09:03

User37482 · 06/09/2025 20:46

Losing a bad parent is complicated, had a few in my family, it’s not straight forward at all.

^Yes, this. My F sexually abused my DSis and me. We repressed the memories for years and it was only years alter his death when the memories resurfaced (when we had young DC).

He was bullying and controlling, too, and I avoided being around him where possible. But he was disabled with Parkinson’s Disease when I was a teenager and young adult, and I did want to be there for my DM.

He finally had a major stroke and was in hospital, where he developed septicaemia and died. I actually found myself hoping he would die so I could be free of him.

This all led to enormous guilt and I ended up grieving for him in a way that I never would have expected and it was a long time before I processed it all in therapy. That happened after the memories of the SA resurfaced, which helped me to understand my very complex feelings about it all.

Goldplatedhinges · 07/09/2025 09:31

i don’t know about other people but I didn’t leave the house. I found solace on social media - I was going crazy in my head, I needed to be around people who understood and I was ready to face life outside my house for a long time.

laura246810 · 07/09/2025 10:53

I kinda understand it I feel. They need to 'do' something with the grief but theres nothing to do, its too late.

ABitOfCompassionPlease · 07/09/2025 11:24

Yes there are some people who over involve themselves in other people's losses and that's a different thing. BUT I'll give my perspective on the OP.
When someone dies, the collective naturally moves on. That's human nature. At my husband's funeral the celebrant said this is the point where our relationship with him moves from the present to the past and we cherish our memories.
For those significantly affected it becomes isolating because one of the most difficult things to come to terms with is that everyone else moves on while you struggle with having to let go. Over time this will appear to others that your wallowing or attention seeking, but really it's a level of pain you can't understand unless you've been there.
My social media is mine. Yours is yours... ive always used mine as a diary of events, reflection of my life. You can use yours however YOU want to. Whether your comfortable or not I will share a picture of my Husband on his birthday, our wedding photo on our anniversary, a message on the anniversary of his death and this is because I desperately want others to remember that he existed... that he mattered and still does, to you he is a memory, to me he is still, and always will be the love of my life and my everything.
The fact that you can't understand that makes me envious because you don't have to live this absolute hell for the rest of your life. It's been 3 years and my life has Imploded and continues to. Do we function? ... yes, do we accomplish new things? Yes but we never forget and I'll be damned if I'm going to let someone judging me who has no understanding of it tell me it's time to move on because they feel uncomfortable or think I'm doing it for attention. You lucky lucky bitch.

SwingTheMonkey · 07/09/2025 11:25

LoveSandbanks · 06/09/2025 12:17

I often meant to respond

”you know he can’t see this”?

I actually think you should do this. To give the person you’re responding to the opportunity to see what sort of person you really are.

The fact that a grieving person cannot say happy birthday to their lost loved one in person, ever again features pretty heavily in the thoughts, without you snarkily needing to point it out.

SwingTheMonkey · 07/09/2025 11:28

And to those who have posted to say that posting on social media has helped after the loss of a child or partner - despite the nasty posts on this thread… please carry on as you are. My friend posts on the birthday of her stillborn daughter and at various points in the year. I always respond to let her know that I still think about her daughter and remember her. Do whatever makes you feel comfortable.

mamagogo1 · 07/09/2025 11:31

People have different ways of coping. Channeling energy into social media may be filling the huge chasm in their life left by the death. If you can’t sleep, the internet can be your saviour

MistressoftheDarkSide · 07/09/2025 11:35

ABitOfCompassionPlease · 07/09/2025 11:24

Yes there are some people who over involve themselves in other people's losses and that's a different thing. BUT I'll give my perspective on the OP.
When someone dies, the collective naturally moves on. That's human nature. At my husband's funeral the celebrant said this is the point where our relationship with him moves from the present to the past and we cherish our memories.
For those significantly affected it becomes isolating because one of the most difficult things to come to terms with is that everyone else moves on while you struggle with having to let go. Over time this will appear to others that your wallowing or attention seeking, but really it's a level of pain you can't understand unless you've been there.
My social media is mine. Yours is yours... ive always used mine as a diary of events, reflection of my life. You can use yours however YOU want to. Whether your comfortable or not I will share a picture of my Husband on his birthday, our wedding photo on our anniversary, a message on the anniversary of his death and this is because I desperately want others to remember that he existed... that he mattered and still does, to you he is a memory, to me he is still, and always will be the love of my life and my everything.
The fact that you can't understand that makes me envious because you don't have to live this absolute hell for the rest of your life. It's been 3 years and my life has Imploded and continues to. Do we function? ... yes, do we accomplish new things? Yes but we never forget and I'll be damned if I'm going to let someone judging me who has no understanding of it tell me it's time to move on because they feel uncomfortable or think I'm doing it for attention. You lucky lucky bitch.

High five, solidarity, a hug 🫂

You said this so well ❤️‍🔥

mamagogo1 · 07/09/2025 11:35

I’ve also seen the long term effect on people, women specifically who were told to forget about their still born or neonatal death child “and have another child because you are young”, 50 years on they still have that grief partly because for 30+ years that loss was taboo to mention, thankfully we are more enlightened now. I host an annual memorial service and I will get names of those who died 60+ years ago often, I also always add a line “those who were born too soon to have a name” because in the past women were encouraged not to dwell

mamagogo1 · 07/09/2025 11:41

@ABitOfCompassionPlease

so well put. There’s no set path, no time limitations on grief. Whilst I’m empathetic to others’ grief, I will not necessarily remember anniversaries and pictures do jog my memory to text a friend. Take care of yourselves, do allow yourself to do those new things, make new memories but I get it , it will always be tinged with sadness but doesn’t mean you can’t have a good happy life (I have friends who met in a grief support group even!)

Wadadli · 07/09/2025 11:44

EmeraldShamrock000 · 06/09/2025 11:48

It is a generational thing, younger people grieve this way.
Not keen on doing it myself but each to their own.
@Shutupkeith That is very sad. x

The people I know who mark every single anniversary of their deceased loved ones tend to be in their 50s & 60s. However, I don’t judge them - people deal with grief in a myriad of ways

EasternEcho · 07/09/2025 11:54

It's not new, and I don't believe it is performative. It's just the medium that has changed. Before social media, “in memory of” notices in newspapers were the standard way families publicly acknowledged a loved one’s death on anniversaries. Families would place these in newspapers on the anniversary of a loved one’s death, often with a small message or poem. It was widely understood as a ritual of remembrance. I don't think we should judge expressions of grief differently just because the audience and format changed. Simply because now you can see the likes, and comments, which might feel performative, I don't think the intent for the poster is any different than it has always been.

Pricelessadvice · 07/09/2025 11:59

ABitOfCompassionPlease · 07/09/2025 11:24

Yes there are some people who over involve themselves in other people's losses and that's a different thing. BUT I'll give my perspective on the OP.
When someone dies, the collective naturally moves on. That's human nature. At my husband's funeral the celebrant said this is the point where our relationship with him moves from the present to the past and we cherish our memories.
For those significantly affected it becomes isolating because one of the most difficult things to come to terms with is that everyone else moves on while you struggle with having to let go. Over time this will appear to others that your wallowing or attention seeking, but really it's a level of pain you can't understand unless you've been there.
My social media is mine. Yours is yours... ive always used mine as a diary of events, reflection of my life. You can use yours however YOU want to. Whether your comfortable or not I will share a picture of my Husband on his birthday, our wedding photo on our anniversary, a message on the anniversary of his death and this is because I desperately want others to remember that he existed... that he mattered and still does, to you he is a memory, to me he is still, and always will be the love of my life and my everything.
The fact that you can't understand that makes me envious because you don't have to live this absolute hell for the rest of your life. It's been 3 years and my life has Imploded and continues to. Do we function? ... yes, do we accomplish new things? Yes but we never forget and I'll be damned if I'm going to let someone judging me who has no understanding of it tell me it's time to move on because they feel uncomfortable or think I'm doing it for attention. You lucky lucky bitch.

Please don’t assume that people haven’t lost anyone close and don’t understand grief just because they don’t feel like you do. You have absolutely no idea what horrors a person might have been through. People process grief completely differently, not everyone reacts the same, but it doesn’t mean that they are a “lucky bitch”. It means their brain processes and deals with it in a way that is different to you.

It’s really quite rude to assume that.

InMyShowgirlEra · 07/09/2025 12:00

How people manage their grief is up to them.

If it makes them feel just slightly better to use a hashtag or share a ton of photos of the deceased then I think you can manage to grit your teeth and scroll past if you're not interested.

I did come across a profile of a bereaved Mum of a toddler who shared regular updates of completely "redecorating" her child's grave for Easter, Halloween, his birthday etc. along with a ton of toys and gifts, left out to get ruined. Losing a toddler must be absolutely dreadful and I can't imagine what she's going through, but I did cringe and the amount of plastic and waste. If I was a family member I'd be gently suggesting that a children's hospital or foodbank could do a lot with all those toys and party decorations and could be harmful to wildlife.

FindingMeno · 07/09/2025 12:08

I hope it brings them comfort.
Grief is a bastard and can be life altering.
I tend to withdraw into my own privacy when it comes to grief but like many my life has been completely changed by loss.
I totally get it can feel like a way of almost sending a message to a loved one though.
Leave people alone and stop judging when it comes to one of the hardest things we face in life.

SwingTheMonkey · 07/09/2025 12:11

InMyShowgirlEra · 07/09/2025 12:00

How people manage their grief is up to them.

If it makes them feel just slightly better to use a hashtag or share a ton of photos of the deceased then I think you can manage to grit your teeth and scroll past if you're not interested.

I did come across a profile of a bereaved Mum of a toddler who shared regular updates of completely "redecorating" her child's grave for Easter, Halloween, his birthday etc. along with a ton of toys and gifts, left out to get ruined. Losing a toddler must be absolutely dreadful and I can't imagine what she's going through, but I did cringe and the amount of plastic and waste. If I was a family member I'd be gently suggesting that a children's hospital or foodbank could do a lot with all those toys and party decorations and could be harmful to wildlife.

I’d hope your ‘gentle suggestion’ would be met with a very ungentle ‘mind your own fucking business’.