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To think the men women need protecting from aren’t asylum seekers but the ones shouting outside the hotels?

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ForSoberBrickOwl · 05/09/2025 19:36

I read in the Guardian this week that 40% of the men arrested during last year’s racist riots had already been reported to police for domestic abuse. That stat hasn’t left my mind.
It makes me think that the men standing outside asylum hotels claiming to “protect” women are often the very ones we need protecting from.

AIBU to think the real danger isn’t coming from migrants, it’s coming from the violent, radicalised men already here who use women’s safety as a smokescreen?

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oakashandelm · 06/09/2025 18:11

quantumbutterfly · 06/09/2025 17:57

Not uncommon? To find human remains on a beach. I'm amazed there haven't been more on the south coast with the numbers we're told are pootling overloaded boats through busy shipping lanes.
I think I'd be less blasé about it.
I imagine the emergency services who had to retrieve 23 bodies from Morecambe Bay were somewhat unhappy about it too.

If you live on the coast or by big rivers then this is not uncommon, as I said.

I used to live in a port and they were often fishing bodies out of the docks. These were men who'd got drunk, walked away from the main street for a quiet pee and fell in..

Remember Nicola Bulley?

This is, sadly, a more recent tragedy.

metro.co.uk/2025/05/19/teenage-boy-dies-after-getting-into-difficulty-in-river-wyre-lancashire-23114284/

quantumbutterfly · 06/09/2025 18:53

oakashandelm · 06/09/2025 18:11

If you live on the coast or by big rivers then this is not uncommon, as I said.

I used to live in a port and they were often fishing bodies out of the docks. These were men who'd got drunk, walked away from the main street for a quiet pee and fell in..

Remember Nicola Bulley?

This is, sadly, a more recent tragedy.

metro.co.uk/2025/05/19/teenage-boy-dies-after-getting-into-difficulty-in-river-wyre-lancashire-23114284/

Ok. You wouldn't bat an eye to find human remains on a beach. As ever on mn you do you.

AI tells me: As of mid-August 2025, at least 20 migrants have died attempting to cross the English Channel, a figure provided by the International Organization for Migration (IOM) as of August 11, 2025. This brings the total number of migrant deaths on this route since 2018 to 249.

PiggyPigalle · 06/09/2025 18:54

ForSoberBrickOwl · 05/09/2025 19:36

I read in the Guardian this week that 40% of the men arrested during last year’s racist riots had already been reported to police for domestic abuse. That stat hasn’t left my mind.
It makes me think that the men standing outside asylum hotels claiming to “protect” women are often the very ones we need protecting from.

AIBU to think the real danger isn’t coming from migrants, it’s coming from the violent, radicalised men already here who use women’s safety as a smokescreen?

Why is it always either or? They can be protected from both.
Just a moment ago saw a remark from someone, "since I met some Ukrainian refugees, I decided I like Putin." Why can't they like or dislike both? Life isn't teams to take sides with.

Oldglasses · 06/09/2025 19:30

I think men are men wherever they’re from. Some will abuse, rape and control, some won’t. I expect those that protesters aren’t a ‘good’ representation of the average decent male and some asylum seekers are wrong ‘uns too.

cc99xo · 06/09/2025 19:34

I’d say it’s a mixture of both. Men of every race/nationality/religion can be dangerous to women 🤷🏼‍♀️

millymollymoomoo · 06/09/2025 19:59

So you don’t think it’s concerning that large groups of men from countries and backgrounds that place no value on women and girls and see them
as second class citizens are literally coming over in the tens of thousands ?
because it bloody is a problem and anyone with half a brain knows it

ok then… go on tell us how many you’re housing

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