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To think Farage surely has to go

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OneKookyShark · 05/09/2025 13:50

So Farage has some dodgy private company set up to avoid paying tax. Is he being pressured to resign as head of Reform? Of course not. Because he’s an entitled privileged man.

The double standards are incredible really. Here’s the story https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/sep/05/nigel-farage-uses-private-company-to-pay-less-tax-on-gb-news-earnings

While I think Rayner had to resign, why are the same standards not being applied?

Nigel Farage uses private company to pay less tax on GB News earnings

Exclusive: Reform leader’s use of personal services firm is a practice criticised across the political spectrum

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/sep/05/nigel-farage-uses-private-company-to-pay-less-tax-on-gb-news-earnings

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HangryLikeTheHulk · 08/09/2025 20:20

yellowspanner · 08/09/2025 20:07

I have a degree and a masters and I will vote reform

Yet your written English is appalling.

Dangermoos · 08/09/2025 20:24

HangryLikeTheHulk · 08/09/2025 20:20

Yet your written English is appalling.

What is appalling about it?

Dangermoos · 08/09/2025 20:26

Serpentstooth · 08/09/2025 18:48

Thanks for demonstrating so clearly in your post that many things are too important to be left to the whims of passing political fancy. Especially human rights guarantees.

Well, I guess seeing a serial rapist get a chance to rape again, kind of sticks in the gut.

Ilfurfante · 08/09/2025 20:28

EmpressoftheMundane · 08/09/2025 18:59

Precisely. They are part of families. They are not resources of the state.

And yet, when inadequate parents fuck their children up then we expect the state to step up and solve the problems:

Social care
Health
Criminal justice system
Housing

Sorry I forgot, it's all actually the fault of the small boats 🤦

EmpressoftheMundane · 08/09/2025 20:34

I don’t expect the state to fix it. There is little evidence that the state is effective in raising and protecting children. Foster care, social work and schools struggle at great expense to fill the gap of families. Families should be strengthened the state rests upon them and cannot effectively replace them.

Clavinova · 08/09/2025 20:36

Goldenbear
What are Reform supporters suggesting people do if they fear Andrea Jenkyns performing her 'Insomniac' song again

I'm not a Reform voter but my suggestions would be don't watch the next series of The Masked Singer and pray the song isn't chosen for Eurovision.

Southwestten · 08/09/2025 20:37

They are actually doing quite a lot more than people seem to know about - e g the fact that foreign criminals now face immediate deportation for the first time.

Would Labour have brought that in if they weren’t worried about Reform? I doubt it somehow.

Ilfurfante · 08/09/2025 20:41

EmpressoftheMundane · 08/09/2025 20:34

I don’t expect the state to fix it. There is little evidence that the state is effective in raising and protecting children. Foster care, social work and schools struggle at great expense to fill the gap of families. Families should be strengthened the state rests upon them and cannot effectively replace them.

Hey? And how do you propose that families are strengthened? Who is going to do that work? Privately owned businesses?

Also, I don't just mean the social care system. I mean not feeding children a healthy balanced diet and teaching them how to look after themselves so they end up with health and teeth problems. That becomes the problem of the state to fix.

Anti-social behaviour - we expect the state to step up with the police. Lack of manners and public decency to pick up litter and have respect for communities.

Adult social care - who provides it when it's not privately funded?

Where do you think the ills of society stem from? It's certainly not any of the teachers and educationalists I've ever encountered.

Ilfurfante · 08/09/2025 20:42

Southwestten · 08/09/2025 20:37

They are actually doing quite a lot more than people seem to know about - e g the fact that foreign criminals now face immediate deportation for the first time.

Would Labour have brought that in if they weren’t worried about Reform? I doubt it somehow.

Does that matter?

Clavinova · 08/09/2025 20:44

Fleetheart
foreign criminals now face immediate deportation for the first time. That is the kind of thing they should be shouting about

As far as I am aware this policy will need to be voted through first.

EmpressoftheMundane · 08/09/2025 20:49

Ilfurfante · 08/09/2025 20:41

Hey? And how do you propose that families are strengthened? Who is going to do that work? Privately owned businesses?

Also, I don't just mean the social care system. I mean not feeding children a healthy balanced diet and teaching them how to look after themselves so they end up with health and teeth problems. That becomes the problem of the state to fix.

Anti-social behaviour - we expect the state to step up with the police. Lack of manners and public decency to pick up litter and have respect for communities.

Adult social care - who provides it when it's not privately funded?

Where do you think the ills of society stem from? It's certainly not any of the teachers and educationalists I've ever encountered.

So you think the ills of society emanate from parents and families?

Clavinova · 08/09/2025 20:49

BIossomtoes · 08/09/2025 15:11

If immigration falls significantly they won’t have a reason to. That’s what happens when you’re a one policy party.

The government haven't announced numbers yet for the proposed 'youth experience' scheme with the EU.

lonelyplanetmum · 08/09/2025 20:54

yellowspanner · 08/09/2025 20:07

I have a degree and a masters and I will vote reform

The issue on this thread is whether Farage should go. Of course he should, but he won’t.

For those saying they are super intelligent and will vote reform, please actually answer some direct questions for once. I have summarised below, a few things Farage has done. Are you saying you support Reform but not him?

General questions
a) Do you see any parallels between Farage and Trump?
c)Do you see any of the issues listed below as moral or legal faults?
d) Do you think Farage sees women as equals and will respect women’s rights?

Specific questions

  1. Do you agree Farage was right to defend Trump when said of women he can "grab ’em by the pussy" ?
  2. Do you think Farage was right to say , “Maybe it’s because I’ve got so many women pregnant over the years that I have a different view of maternity leave.”?
  3. Do you agree Farage was right to say that breastfeeding women should "sit in the corner".
  4. Do you think it was honourable that this ‘ man of the people’ profited with £450,000 from Arron Banks in 2019 as a* personal *reward for delivering Brexit.
  5. Can he claim to be a man of the people when he used this money on renting a £4.4 million Chelsea home, A Land Rover Discovery plus driver, office rental, travel to the USA, and paying for promotional activity at the Republican Convention and Trump inauguration.
  6. Do you think it is trustworthy ( being an MEP at the time) to take the £450k and illegally fail to declare those monies on the register of interests?
  7. Do you think it shows devotion to his constituency work that since August last year, he earned another £400,000 from GB News. Should he be doing that whilst being paid as an MP?
  8. Do you think it sends the right message that his GB news money goes through his (naffly named) private company, Thorn in the Side Ltd to reduce tax to 25% tax instead of 40% income tax? (He had previously criticised others being taxed like as “the common enemy,” )
  9. Do you trust him -given the many lies he had told, eg the Brexit spin of ‘money for the NHS’ , the lies of no harm to the economy, or falsely saying Turkey were joining the EU (when the facts are the Turkey can’t and won’t meet the criteria).

Nigel Farage should go. He’s no statesman, even his mate Donnie has refused to see him on some attempts. He’s a divisive merchant of spin who has built a career and fortune on lies, and receiving dodgy funding. His actions have directly affected millions of ordinary people- while he merrily feathers his own nest.

The facts are out there. Use your research skills and actually do some thorough fact checking to see his history.

Ilfurfante · 08/09/2025 20:56

EmpressoftheMundane · 08/09/2025 20:49

So you think the ills of society emanate from parents and families?

I think it is far more complex than that but that wasn't my point.

My point was that you are talking about the "indoctrination" of children through the education system, which is part of the state, without acknowledging that the state provides significant support which enables society to function.

EmpressoftheMundane · 08/09/2025 21:12

My point is that not everyone agrees with the way state schools are run; forcing more children into them is a coercive act.

SleeplessInWherever · 08/09/2025 21:21

EmpressoftheMundane · 08/09/2025 21:12

My point is that not everyone agrees with the way state schools are run; forcing more children into them is a coercive act.

Sorry - where am I supposed to send my child at 8am tomorrow, if I’m not dragging him into school?

EmpressoftheMundane · 08/09/2025 21:23

The school of your choice, rather than the one allocated to you.

ThatWaryOchreQuoter · 08/09/2025 21:44

SleeplessInWherever · 08/09/2025 21:21

Sorry - where am I supposed to send my child at 8am tomorrow, if I’m not dragging him into school?

There are non state school options… for now anyway.

TheJoyOfWriting · 08/09/2025 21:51

JacquesHarlow · 05/09/2025 13:56

This is not the same thing as the Rayner case AT ALL @OneKookyShark

One is legal , doesn't need review to decide whether it is legal or not, and is a method celebrated by his peers.

The other was underpaying a tax, describing the underpayment as a mistake, and in a party which has publicly spoken about housing and taxation needing to change.

I am NOT a Reform member, apologist or voter. But I think it's all too easy for newspapers to try and find the next scalp.

Until we outlaw all forms of legal tax avoidance schemes and watch the wealth drain away as we do it, it will be ever thus.

If every country in the world outlawed tax havens, it'd be ok. Unluckily not happening at the moment ..

SleeplessInWherever · 08/09/2025 21:51

ThatWaryOchreQuoter · 08/09/2025 21:44

There are non state school options… for now anyway.

That not everybody can afford.

My son attends a state maintained special school, that costs the LA a lot of money. It meets his needs, and the nearest school that could do so otherwise is 20 miles away.

Think I’ll just continue taking him, tbh.

Dangermoos · 08/09/2025 22:00

lonelyplanetmum · 08/09/2025 20:54

The issue on this thread is whether Farage should go. Of course he should, but he won’t.

For those saying they are super intelligent and will vote reform, please actually answer some direct questions for once. I have summarised below, a few things Farage has done. Are you saying you support Reform but not him?

General questions
a) Do you see any parallels between Farage and Trump?
c)Do you see any of the issues listed below as moral or legal faults?
d) Do you think Farage sees women as equals and will respect women’s rights?

Specific questions

  1. Do you agree Farage was right to defend Trump when said of women he can "grab ’em by the pussy" ?
  2. Do you think Farage was right to say , “Maybe it’s because I’ve got so many women pregnant over the years that I have a different view of maternity leave.”?
  3. Do you agree Farage was right to say that breastfeeding women should "sit in the corner".
  4. Do you think it was honourable that this ‘ man of the people’ profited with £450,000 from Arron Banks in 2019 as a* personal *reward for delivering Brexit.
  5. Can he claim to be a man of the people when he used this money on renting a £4.4 million Chelsea home, A Land Rover Discovery plus driver, office rental, travel to the USA, and paying for promotional activity at the Republican Convention and Trump inauguration.
  6. Do you think it is trustworthy ( being an MEP at the time) to take the £450k and illegally fail to declare those monies on the register of interests?
  7. Do you think it shows devotion to his constituency work that since August last year, he earned another £400,000 from GB News. Should he be doing that whilst being paid as an MP?
  8. Do you think it sends the right message that his GB news money goes through his (naffly named) private company, Thorn in the Side Ltd to reduce tax to 25% tax instead of 40% income tax? (He had previously criticised others being taxed like as “the common enemy,” )
  9. Do you trust him -given the many lies he had told, eg the Brexit spin of ‘money for the NHS’ , the lies of no harm to the economy, or falsely saying Turkey were joining the EU (when the facts are the Turkey can’t and won’t meet the criteria).

Nigel Farage should go. He’s no statesman, even his mate Donnie has refused to see him on some attempts. He’s a divisive merchant of spin who has built a career and fortune on lies, and receiving dodgy funding. His actions have directly affected millions of ordinary people- while he merrily feathers his own nest.

The facts are out there. Use your research skills and actually do some thorough fact checking to see his history.

Wonder how much back rent he owes your head space.

ThatWaryOchreQuoter · 08/09/2025 22:10

SleeplessInWherever · 08/09/2025 21:51

That not everybody can afford.

My son attends a state maintained special school, that costs the LA a lot of money. It meets his needs, and the nearest school that could do so otherwise is 20 miles away.

Think I’ll just continue taking him, tbh.

I don’t mind where other parents send their kids to school.

N0Tfunny · 08/09/2025 22:19

OneKookyShark · 05/09/2025 14:12

Yes. She was a working class woman from a council estate. The right wing media wanted her to stay in her lane - she didn’t come from privilege.

I admired her- I hope she will be back at some point.

Farage can rot in hell as far as I am concerned.

Is that you Angela?

Serpentstooth · 08/09/2025 22:39

Good choice of name.

Dangermoos · 08/09/2025 22:44

N0Tfunny · 08/09/2025 22:19

Is that you Angela?

Nah, Ange doesn't write her own material; her resignation letter was articulate.